NYY1 wrote: ↑
Sat, 27 Aug 2022 12:40 pm
malcontent wrote: ↑
Fri, 26 Aug 2022 1:50 pm
The point is that fast track citizenship is a much more pressing and urgent consideration today for those who looking to improve their lot in life, because PR often won’t cut it. At least that is how I would be feeling if I were in that situation today.
You have to remember, you have a Western democratic nation's passport while not everyone else does. Everyone is entitled to their own perspective but while you are constantly complaining about the lifestyle here and the lack of benefits for a PR, the truth is many that are not in your shoes would love to obtain PR here (just look at all of the threads, questions, and applicants that exist). To them, both the residency rights and any subsidies are a substantial benefit (vs the foreigner rates), even if they cannot obtain SC immediately. While you frown upon it, many of these applicants would almost certainly consider PR a way to improve their lot in life in one way or another (relative to what options they currently have).
For example, school fees? Your daughter is still receiving a benefit of ~$1,000+ per month vs. the non-ASEAN rate, and has the option to work/reside here after finishing university abroad (good luck for most 22 year old foreigners educated abroad to get an EP here upon graduation). Still, that isn't enough because the PR rate used to be closer to the SC rate?
Keep in mind another benefit your wife has (and potential you have as you've alluded to via LTVP) is the long-term residency and security of Singapore (pending global geopolitical situation). Any PR, previously obtained or issued today, would also get that benefit vs the EPs that need to pack up in a month when their working days end. While everything you've done has been by the book, not everyone (SC or PR) gets to obtain that without their family contributing to the country's national security at some point.
Again, everyone is entitled to believe whatever they want but perhaps there are times with some alternative perspective would go a long way. Anyways, just some food for thought - wishing everyone a pleasant Saturday afternoon.
Although I have a western passport, I have lived for decades among my many in-laws who do not. They hold passports from two neighboring ASEAN countries… some remain on EP, some have PR and some have just become newly minted citizens. I have intimate knowledge of every consideration they made, and deep insights into their perspectives on these things. I can tell you - at least for them, it is not that straightforward and the benefits are not that compelling. Interestingly enough, one of my in-laws is in an almost identical situation as mine, except without a western passport.
Many of my friends who are locals share my sentiments on the scarcity and limitations of recreational opportunities here, as well as the high material cost of living. However, I fully agree that for some people, Singapore has everything they desire… they want for nothing. That is wonderful. Nothing wrong with that!
Regarding school fees… I have to say, it’s a bit of a sore point for me. If a Singaporean moves to the US, they can put their kids into local school for free. And it doesn’t matter if they are on a work permit or a permanent resident. This is as it should be, because as any resident in the US has to pay taxes, and those taxes pay for the school — they don’t get hit with another fee. The way I see it, my taxes have already paid for the school, and this is purely a tax for not being a citizen… almost double-dipping if you ask me. But hey, who am I to judge?
As for my ‘frowning’ on PR and taking up SC, the post I made that you were replying to was doing just the opposite — I think people should be seriously considering the path to citizenship with more urgency than ever. Sorry if that was not clear. I’m fully cognizant of the benefits of living here. How could I have stayed here over 2.5 decades otherwise? But I don’t wear rose colored glasses either… there are real pros/cons to living anywhere in the world, no reason to pretend there isn’t.