Wow, very impressive! What would have compelled you to apply to an ivy so early on?Swn4 wrote: ↑Tue, 26 Oct 2021 10:44 pmI and a C/T (civics tutorial group) mate from Hwa Chong got admitted to Cornell in JC1 and another C/T mate got admitted to MIT in JC2. However this was in the mid 80s and admissions departments tightened up requirements after that.
Personally, I think O levels were enough academically but it is not easy socially when you are younger than everyone else.
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So interesting, not sure it would be as easy to do so now, although still possible.MOCHS wrote: ↑Wed, 20 Oct 2021 5:36 pmI can confirm that too. My friend dropped out of JC and enrolled in a uni in Wisconsin with just her O Level cert. That was back in the late 90s and early 2000s.malcontent wrote: ↑Wed, 20 Oct 2021 4:26 pmafter O-Levels in Singapore she went straight to university in the US.
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This was the 80s with no WWW so very little information available about competitiveness or the weather(!). I just applied to a list of schools from the Barron’s guide which meant very skewed to schools in the New England states.Lisafuller wrote:Wow, very impressive! What would have compelled you to apply to an ivy so early on?Swn4 wrote: ↑Tue, 26 Oct 2021 10:44 pmI and a C/T (civics tutorial group) mate from Hwa Chong got admitted to Cornell in JC1 and another C/T mate got admitted to MIT in JC2. However this was in the mid 80s and admissions departments tightened up requirements after that.
Personally, I think O levels were enough academically but it is not easy socially when you are younger than everyone else.
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That’s right. And for my daughter, she is very ambitious and driven. She just got her Sec 4 results back — straight A’s. I’d bet she could already get into an excellent university as it is, but she is an IP student, so she’s skipping O-Level and going straight to JC.Lisafuller wrote: ↑Wed, 27 Oct 2021 2:14 amTrue, some schools will take O level results but the better, more competitive ones do not accept just O level results. If the student is hoping to gain admission into a more exclusive school, A level results would certainly be helpful.
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IP student?
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Yes, she is an IP (Integrated program) student.
IP is unique to Singapore, and is a recent, somewhat controversial development in the local education system here. It allows top performing students (generally top 10% of PSLE scorers; cut-off points vary by school) to skip O-Levels and go straight to A-level after Sec 4.
The idea is that by not having to study for O-Levels, it frees up students to broaden their educational exposure. She wanted IP and has no regrets.
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Integrated Programme. Also known as “zhi tong che” in Mandarin which means “through train”.
The student skips O levels after PSLE and goes straight to A levels. That means they spend 6 years in a secondary school-JC environment. Though if they fail A levels, they’ll only have a PSLE cert…
But from my knowledge the teachers will assess them around Sec 3 to see if they can make it to A levels without the O levels. If they can’t, they are persuaded to drop the IP and take O levels.
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That is correct. A friend of my daughter was moved from IP back to O-Level. So I think they are careful to avoid that risk.MOCHS wrote: ↑Wed, 27 Oct 2021 11:02 amIntegrated Programme. Also known as “zhi tong che” in Mandarin which means “through train”.
The student skips O levels after PSLE and goes straight to A levels. That means they spend 6 years in a secondary school-JC environment. Though if they fail A levels, they’ll only have a PSLE cert…
But from my knowledge the teachers will assess them around Sec 3 to see if they can make it to A levels without the O levels. If they can’t, they are persuaded to drop the IP and take O levels.
For my daughter, she will study university in the US, so her A-level results won’t matter, and won’t even be available when she applies.
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Wow, still amazing that they took you so early on. What made you apply to college at such a young age?Swn4 wrote: ↑Wed, 27 Oct 2021 8:00 amThis was the 80s with no WWW so very little information available about competitiveness or the weather(!). I just applied to a list of schools from the Barron’s guide which meant very skewed to schools in the New England states.Lisafuller wrote:Wow, very impressive! What would have compelled you to apply to an ivy so early on?Swn4 wrote: ↑Tue, 26 Oct 2021 10:44 pmI and a C/T (civics tutorial group) mate from Hwa Chong got admitted to Cornell in JC1 and another C/T mate got admitted to MIT in JC2. However this was in the mid 80s and admissions departments tightened up requirements after that.
Personally, I think O levels were enough academically but it is not easy socially when you are younger than everyone else.
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If she’s applying RD to any schools, the results will be relevant. But on a whole, relatively meaningless.malcontent wrote: ↑Wed, 27 Oct 2021 11:10 amThat is correct. A friend of my daughter was moved from IP back to O-Level. So I think they are careful to avoid that risk.MOCHS wrote: ↑Wed, 27 Oct 2021 11:02 amIntegrated Programme. Also known as “zhi tong che” in Mandarin which means “through train”.
The student skips O levels after PSLE and goes straight to A levels. That means they spend 6 years in a secondary school-JC environment. Though if they fail A levels, they’ll only have a PSLE cert…
But from my knowledge the teachers will assess them around Sec 3 to see if they can make it to A levels without the O levels. If they can’t, they are persuaded to drop the IP and take O levels.
For my daughter, she will study university in the US, so her A-level results won’t matter, and won’t even be available when she applies.
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Excellent, good for her! My daughter does IP as well, she just graduated from Raffles and is waiting to take her A levels. Where does your daughter go?malcontent wrote: ↑Wed, 27 Oct 2021 9:19 amThat’s right. And for my daughter, she is very ambitious and driven. She just got her Sec 4 results back — straight A’s. I’d bet she could already get into an excellent university as it is, but she is an IP student, so she’s skipping O-Level and going straight to JC.Lisafuller wrote: ↑Wed, 27 Oct 2021 2:14 amTrue, some schools will take O level results but the better, more competitive ones do not accept just O level results. If the student is hoping to gain admission into a more exclusive school, A level results would certainly be helpful.
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Same with my daughter, she just wanted a guaranteed spot in a top JC, and didn’t want to have to worry about studying for O levels.malcontent wrote: ↑Wed, 27 Oct 2021 11:01 amYes, she is an IP (Integrated program) student.
IP is unique to Singapore, and is a recent, somewhat controversial development in the local education system here. It allows top performing students (generally top 10% of PSLE scorers; cut-off points vary by school) to skip O-Levels and go straight to A-level after Sec 4.
The idea is that by not having to study for O-Levels, it frees up students to broaden their educational exposure. She wanted IP and has no regrets.
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Its a relatively safe gamble to take most times. Most students in the IP program are relatively studious and able to pull through to A levels.MOCHS wrote: ↑Wed, 27 Oct 2021 11:02 amIntegrated Programme. Also known as “zhi tong che” in Mandarin which means “through train”.
The student skips O levels after PSLE and goes straight to A levels. That means they spend 6 years in a secondary school-JC environment. Though if they fail A levels, they’ll only have a PSLE cert…
But from my knowledge the teachers will assess them around Sec 3 to see if they can make it to A levels without the O levels. If they can’t, they are persuaded to drop the IP and take O levels.
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Because other people were doing the same. And a huge dose of being too young to know better.Lisafuller wrote:Wow, still amazing that they took you so early on. What made you apply to college at such a young age?Swn4 wrote: ↑Wed, 27 Oct 2021 8:00 amThis was the 80s with no WWW so very little information available about competitiveness or the weather(!). I just applied to a list of schools from the Barron’s guide which meant very skewed to schools in the New England states.Lisafuller wrote: Wow, very impressive! What would have compelled you to apply to an ivy so early on?
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With hindsight, I’d recommend to slow down.
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Wow, nowadays barely anybody does that. I agree with you, being ready for college is more than just being academically ready, there’s also a level of maturity that one must have in order to thrive.Swn4 wrote: ↑Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:12 pmBecause other people were doing the same. And a huge dose of being too young to know better.Lisafuller wrote:Wow, still amazing that they took you so early on. What made you apply to college at such a young age?
With hindsight, I’d recommend to slow down.
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