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Criteria for approval SPR/SC

Relocating, travelling or planning to make Singapore home? Discuss the criterias, passes or visa that is required.
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Re: Criteria for approval SPR/SC

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 08 Sep 2021 2:55 pm

malcontent wrote:
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Wed, 08 Sep 2021 12:39 pm
Same applies to me going to India. I feel like it could be fun to go and meet her family someday and not for working and living. I'd be the only white guy in town :)
Then you can party like a maharaja!
We did 7 years ago when my daughter got married. She had the church ceremony in a Syrian Orthodox Church in Kerela where my son-in-law is originally from and the parents (PR's here) have a huge movie styled bungalow there. (The Civil Ceremony & reception here was done at the Shangri-La Rasa Sentosa). Needless to say, The place where I was in Kerela, I was the only white guy in town for a week. Awesome! Spent several afternoons/evening drinking plantation made toddies as well. Interesting stuff as it's mild early in the afternoon and get stronger as it ferments during the day until late evening when it has an interesting kick to it. And yeah, I wore a lungi and actually wear one around the house here as well on occasion.
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Re: Criteria for approval SPR/SC

Post by PartyLike-A-Russian » Wed, 08 Sep 2021 3:52 pm

malcontent, Sms, I'd party there with great pleasure :D It's fun.
But living and working is somewhat different.

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Re: Criteria for approval SPR/SC

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 08 Sep 2021 5:39 pm

I'd rather believe you would be treated like royalty unless your wife is from the wrong caste. Even my in-laws treated me like royalty and their wealth I cannot begin to imagine. The real kicker is the son is an only child and they actually relented and let him marry a half-breed Tamil-Caucasian mix. They weren't too keen in the beginning but now with two grandsons my daughter is the bees knees. Internet connection there aren't an issue at all, judging by the garbage we sweep off of this board EVERY day (every hour of the day/night). You said you work in IT right? So couldn't you WFH either in India or Russia? We also got our fair share of Russian spammer on the board as well. Along with Yanks, and Nigerians and a host of others. I heard all the same stuff before I moved to Singapore from the Gulf of Mexico 39 years ago. Still worked for me. Attitude. I think Mal will say the same thing as will addadude.
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Re: Criteria for approval SPR/SC

Post by smoulder » Wed, 08 Sep 2021 7:09 pm

PartyLike-A-Russian wrote:
Wed, 08 Sep 2021 12:39 pm
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Wed, 08 Sep 2021 12:13 pm
To me, and I would hazard a guess, most of the long-term regulars on this board will concur, it does appear that applying in less than an year does have the pong of desperation in it. This, if I were an ICA officer, would get my spidey senses aroused as to why. Were they afraid of losing their job and get sent packing?
Well, I'd fully agree if we were taking about a married couple from the same country or the EU. You lose your jobs; you both go home. Where home is the same country.
But our case is a little different. I am from Russia, and my wife is from India. And we are expecting a baby this autumn :wink:
In the worst case, if we both lose our jobs (which I hope won't happen 'cause our company is doing well enough, but each round of HA, CB, etc. makes me feel anxious) and have to leave the country, sure thing, we can go to Russia. The problem is that she doesn't know the language (very hard to get a job, etc. Imagine yourself being put to a random country in Africa :D ), and in terms of culture the country is totally different from her home country. Same applies to me going to India. I feel like it could be fun to go and meet her family someday and not for working and living. I'd be the only white guy in town :)

Didn't mean to sound desperate. Just facts.
Just saying, but as a spouse of an Indian citizen, you can apply for a visa called "overseas citizen of India" aka oci. Look it up. Should be quite useful even if you don't lose your jobs. I'm planning to get it for my wife and daughter.

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Re: Criteria for approval SPR/SC

Post by PartyLike-A-Russian » Thu, 09 Sep 2021 10:50 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Wed, 08 Sep 2021 5:39 pm
I'd rather believe you would be treated like royalty unless your wife is from the wrong caste.
Kind of from a wrong caste.
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Wed, 08 Sep 2021 5:39 pm
You said you work in IT right? So couldn't you WFH either in India or Russia?
Sms, we could spend hours talking politics here, but let's fast-forward to the conclusion :) I left Russia not because I liked everything there (however, in terms of money, it's quite good for IT people) and just decided to spend some years overseas. I left Russia because it couldn't agree with the direction the country has been going in. And I don't believe it will change. I'd rather say the country will become USSR 2.0 with a new iron curtain someday in my lifetime. Besides, long cold winters make me feel depressed. Used to be OK until 2017 or 2018. And I didn't choose Singapore back then in late 2018. I was referred, passed an interview and migrated. And after some time Singapore exceeded my expectations.

My wife and I talked a lot about where we would love to settle down, and the two options we selected eventually were Singapore and Australia. And here is our situation. Things at work are going well. Our income is growing. The income tax is low. Our investments are doing well. The only problem here is PR. Without it there is no sense of stability.

On the other hand, Australia is not very easy to get in as well. The independent visas 189, 190 are virtually impossible to get from outside the country. And coming there to live on temporary visas, hoping for the employer's sponsorship of PR (which is, as you can guess, not promised on paper), or applying independently... It all feels like a long way without a guarantee of success. I'm afraid we could regret leaving Singapore many many times if things don't go smoothly in AU.

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Re: Criteria for approval SPR/SC

Post by PartyLike-A-Russian » Thu, 09 Sep 2021 10:53 am

smoulder wrote:
Wed, 08 Sep 2021 7:09 pm
Just saying, but as a spouse of an Indian citizen, you can apply for a visa called "overseas citizen of India" aka oci. Look it up. Should be quite useful even if you don't lose your jobs. I'm planning to get it for my wife and daughter.
What are the benefits as long as I am not going to live and work in India?

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Re: Criteria for approval SPR/SC

Post by smoulder » Thu, 09 Sep 2021 11:12 am

PartyLike-A-Russian wrote:
Thu, 09 Sep 2021 10:53 am
smoulder wrote:
Wed, 08 Sep 2021 7:09 pm
Just saying, but as a spouse of an Indian citizen, you can apply for a visa called "overseas citizen of India" aka oci. Look it up. Should be quite useful even if you don't lose your jobs. I'm planning to get it for my wife and daughter.
What are the benefits as long as I am not going to live and work in India?
Basically it is less hassle free to travel in and out of India. At the very least, that would be the benefit. The Indian visa is a pain in the rear.

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