SC chances and expected wait time?

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SC chances and expected wait time?

Post by texmf » Mon, 19 Jul 2021 4:23 am

I'm just wondering what are my chances at SC given that I've been a PR for <2 years but a resident for >12y?

Mid twenties, single
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Elite schools (secondary, JC)
NUS STEM bachelors
>200k/year, liquid assets >600k (USD), no property
PR approved on first application, 3-4 month processing time

The application form says 6-12 months but reading through this forum, 1y to 1.5y seems to be the norm. Bias aside, is that really the case? Thanks!

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Post by bro75 » Mon, 19 Jul 2021 8:43 am

I think you have a decent chance. The only negative I see is that you have been a PR for less than two years. Being approved for PR less than two years ago is a sign from the government that they consider you potential SC material. If you are rejected now, apply again later.

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Post by smoulder » Mon, 19 Jul 2021 4:34 pm

texmf wrote:
Mon, 19 Jul 2021 4:23 am
I'm just wondering what are my chances at SC given that I've been a PR for <2 years but a resident for >12y?

Mid twenties, single
Indian
Elite schools (secondary, JC)
NUS STEM bachelors
>200k/year, liquid assets >600k (USD), no property
PR approved on first application, 3-4 month processing time

The application form says 6-12 months but reading through this forum, 1y to 1.5y seems to be the norm. Bias aside, is that really the case? Thanks!
Try applying for citizenship under 2 years from your PR approval. I believe the system will not allow you to do so.

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Re: SC chances and expected wait time?

Post by texmf » Mon, 19 Jul 2021 5:04 pm

smoulder wrote:
Mon, 19 Jul 2021 4:34 pm
Try applying for citizenship under 2 years from your PR approval. I believe the system will not allow you to do so.
I have already applied so it does let you.
bro75 wrote:
Mon, 19 Jul 2021 8:43 am
I think you have a decent chance. The only negative I see is that you have been a PR for less than two years. Being approved for PR less than two years ago is a sign from the government that they consider you potential SC material. If you are rejected now, apply again later.
Thanks!

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Post by smoulder » Mon, 19 Jul 2021 5:10 pm

Interesting. Maybe you have ticked some other box. I tried to submit my application recently - I'm a few months short of 2 years from pr approval. It did not allow me to proceed.

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Post by sp786 » Mon, 19 Jul 2021 11:36 pm

A HR official who has been PR for 10+ years tried to apply for SC and after 18 months his application was rejected but his colleague who also is an Indian ethnic SG PR for same 10+ years applied and after 22 months got his SC approved

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Post by smoulder » Tue, 20 Jul 2021 2:48 am

sp786 wrote:
Mon, 19 Jul 2021 11:36 pm
A HR official who has been PR for 10+ years tried to apply for SC and after 18 months his application was rejected but his colleague who also is an Indian ethnic SG PR for same 10+ years applied and after 22 months got his SC approved
What's the conclusion you would draw from that?

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Post by tritonsg » Tue, 20 Jul 2021 11:44 am

texmf wrote:
Mon, 19 Jul 2021 5:04 pm
smoulder wrote:
Mon, 19 Jul 2021 4:34 pm
Try applying for citizenship under 2 years from your PR approval. I believe the system will not allow you to do so.
I have already applied so it does let you.
How long do you have to wait after the PR approval until the system allows you to apply?

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Re: SC chances and expected wait time?

Post by sp786 » Tue, 20 Jul 2021 11:48 am

smoulder wrote:
Tue, 20 Jul 2021 2:48 am
sp786 wrote:
Mon, 19 Jul 2021 11:36 pm
A HR official who has been PR for 10+ years tried to apply for SC and after 18 months his application was rejected but his colleague who also is an Indian ethnic SG PR for same 10+ years applied and after 22 months got his SC approved
What's the conclusion you would draw from that?
Its again like PR no conclusive evidence of generally what we believe about selection criteria.

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Post by smoulder » Tue, 20 Jul 2021 12:03 pm

sp786 wrote:
Tue, 20 Jul 2021 11:48 am
smoulder wrote:
Tue, 20 Jul 2021 2:48 am
sp786 wrote:
Mon, 19 Jul 2021 11:36 pm
A HR official who has been PR for 10+ years tried to apply for SC and after 18 months his application was rejected but his colleague who also is an Indian ethnic SG PR for same 10+ years applied and after 22 months got his SC approved
What's the conclusion you would draw from that?
Its again like PR no conclusive evidence of generally what we believe about selection criteria.
Right. Then again, whatever parameters you know of some of these cases are probably just a subset of things they are looking at.

There's also a couple of unknowns which are impossible for anyone to predict -

1. Quota for the year happens to be over.

2. Relative comparison - your profile vs the other applicants

However, reading through these forums, based on some of the profiles that are approved and suggestions from the guys who have seen a lot more than us over several decades, there seem to be 2 types of profiles which stand better chances, provided other things like age and salary are acceptable of course :

1. Family ties is one way that they can quantifiably measure integration. Examples - being married to a SC or PR. Provided that there aren't obvious signs of a marriage of convenience.

2. Indian who is a citizen from either a western country or perhaps Malaysia. 2nd one is most likely because of cultural proximity.

At the end of the day, no one can tell you 100 percent, but these are some semi educated guesses. As we hear too often, they would rather not make the criteria open to all for fear of people gaming the system - this country is too small to withstand that.

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Re: SC chances and expected wait time?

Post by smoulder » Tue, 20 Jul 2021 12:19 pm

tritonsg wrote:
Tue, 20 Jul 2021 11:44 am
texmf wrote:
Mon, 19 Jul 2021 5:04 pm
smoulder wrote:
Mon, 19 Jul 2021 4:34 pm
Try applying for citizenship under 2 years from your PR approval. I believe the system will not allow you to do so.
I have already applied so it does let you.
How long do you have to wait after the PR approval until the system allows you to apply?
There are a few conditions. In my case, the system tells me that I'm not eligible to apply. I'm guessing that after I complete 2 years (in October) I should be able to at least submit the application. We shall see.

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Post by sonnabend » Tue, 20 Jul 2021 1:30 pm

smoulder wrote:
Mon, 19 Jul 2021 5:10 pm
Interesting. Maybe you have ticked some other box. I tried to submit my application recently - I'm a few months short of 2 years from pr approval. It did not allow me to proceed.

I read one post in the Chinese language forum similar to singaporeexpats that one user also managed to apply before being PR for 2 years. However his SC application was eventually rejected after close to one year of waiting. The moderator in that forum told him that probably because he didn't wait for 2 years after becoming a PR first. Being ABLE to apply doesn't mean that they will give it to you, one still have to meet the minimum 2 years residency requirements post-PR

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Re: SC chances and expected wait time?

Post by smoulder » Tue, 20 Jul 2021 1:36 pm

sonnabend wrote:
Tue, 20 Jul 2021 1:30 pm
smoulder wrote:
Mon, 19 Jul 2021 5:10 pm
Interesting. Maybe you have ticked some other box. I tried to submit my application recently - I'm a few months short of 2 years from pr approval. It did not allow me to proceed.

I read one post in the Chinese language forum similar to singaporeexpats that one user also managed to apply before being PR for 2 years. However his SC application was eventually rejected after close to one year of waiting. The moderator in that forum told him that probably because he didn't wait for 2 years after becoming a PR first. Being ABLE to apply doesn't mean that they will give it to you, one still have to meet the minimum 2 years residency requirements post-PR
Obviously. No one is saying that eligibility to apply implies approval.

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