Also worth mentioning:Myasis Dragon wrote: ↑Mon, 19 Jul 2021 10:44 pmMy business card said, "Project Manager". I'd walk into a company where they had "Project Manager I", "Project Manager II", and "Senior Project Manager", or in a bank, "Special Projects Vice President", and they'd all ask me, "So how you run a big project like this when you're only a project manager?"trojan1988 wrote: ↑Mon, 19 Jul 2021 4:31 pmThanks for that! Yeah, very true. Of course project management (the work) is specific. However, the job title itself is not. I'm glad that you think the Government recognises this distinction.
I wouldn't sweat title inflation. I mean, the programmers of yesteryear are now all software engineers. Don't forget that the fancy ass titles that show up are a way to give employees a sense of self importance without giving them any more money.
Inside sales >>>>> Account executive
Manager >>>>> Director
IT Manager >>>>> Chief Technologist
Copywriter >>>>> Media Content Creator
Solutions architects who are really pre sales guys with very shallow technical knowledge.nelyanne wrote: ↑Tue, 20 Jul 2021 12:47 pmAlso worth mentioning:Myasis Dragon wrote: ↑Mon, 19 Jul 2021 10:44 pmMy business card said, "Project Manager". I'd walk into a company where they had "Project Manager I", "Project Manager II", and "Senior Project Manager", or in a bank, "Special Projects Vice President", and they'd all ask me, "So how you run a big project like this when you're only a project manager?"trojan1988 wrote: ↑Mon, 19 Jul 2021 4:31 pmThanks for that! Yeah, very true. Of course project management (the work) is specific. However, the job title itself is not. I'm glad that you think the Government recognises this distinction.
I wouldn't sweat title inflation. I mean, the programmers of yesteryear are now all software engineers. Don't forget that the fancy ass titles that show up are a way to give employees a sense of self importance without giving them any more money.
Inside sales >>>>> Account executive
Manager >>>>> Director
IT Manager >>>>> Chief Technologist
Copywriter >>>>> Media Content Creator
* sales engineer (sales)
* customer success engineer (sales)
* software engineer in test (tester)
* talent researcher (recruiter)
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Indeed... "solution" is the word to watch out for.
You should know that obtaining a PMP doesn't teach you anything about managing a project. What it does give you is an excellent framework from which you _can_ manage a project, IF you know how to manage a project.
I became the applications development manager of a large IBM mainframe shop. My initial title was "Programming Manager".
Oh, yes, the PMP can have great value. So can the PRINCE2 training. In theory, you're supposed to demonstrate at least 3 years of extensive project management experience, and a degree, in order to sit for the PMP. This rule seems very poorly enforced to me as I met so many "wet behind the ears" PMP's that had to make up their experience.sp786 wrote: ↑Tue, 20 Jul 2021 11:29 pmThanks Dragon so PMP seems to have some actual tools that could be used at the right place & time and not some fluff certification.
Any by the way when it comes to banking American banks have AVPs - > VPs - > SVPs -> Director -> MD
but some banks have Associate Director --> Director --> Senior Director --> Executive Director --> MD
The latter is pretty misleading and I had a debate with a big recruitment firm whose name starts with "C". Those guys always post positions for Director / Sr. Director claiming it to be above VP level but in reality none of the major local or MNC banks such a position. I guess we need to be careful with such recruitment agencies as well.
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