PR APPLICATION CHANCE- Mixed couple

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Re: PR APPLICATION CHANCE- Mixed couple

Post by smoulder » Mon, 09 Aug 2021 5:05 pm

malcontent wrote:
Mon, 09 Aug 2021 4:57 pm
smoulder wrote:
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Did the OP say whether the daughter was Chindian or pure Chinese?
Reading the post, "genetically" Chindian, ID card - Chinese. Why?
It just struck me as odd that the daughter was listed only “Chinese” race when presumably she has an Indian father.

Maybe the more relevant question: why list her as ethnically Chinese alone? Does that really help if they know it’s only half the truth? In practice, won’t they put her in the “Other” bucket?
In the old days, I believe that the child would have no choice other than the father's race.

With the new system, I listed my Chindian daughter as Chinese Indian - which means that Chinese is her primary race (following my wife). I don't think "others" was an option. From what I can remember, the only options were the various permutations and combinations of our two races.

Ours was a conscious decision to list as Chinese first.

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Re: PR APPLICATION CHANCE- Mixed couple

Post by malcontent » Mon, 09 Aug 2021 5:19 pm

I believe Chinese-Indian, Eurasian, Caucasian etc. are all lumped into Others under the CMIO quota.

Not sure how they handle listing Chinese alone if they are mixed. Just curious.
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Re: PR APPLICATION CHANCE- Mixed couple

Post by smoulder » Mon, 09 Aug 2021 5:25 pm

Chinese Indian from the perspective of mother tongue is in the Chinese category. I would have thought the same would carry over to the hdb policy.

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Re: PR APPLICATION CHANCE- Mixed couple

Post by smoulder » Mon, 09 Aug 2021 5:27 pm

https://services2.hdb.gov.sg/webapp/BB29ETHN/BB29STREET
Important Notes
The ethnic proportions and SPR quota are updated on the first day of every month. The information is valid for resale applications submitted to HDB in the same month.
The SPR quota is only applicable to SPR households where all the buyers are non-Malaysians.
This service will not show blocks less than 5 years old.
Buyers or sellers with double-barrelled race should use the first race component to check their eligibility. For example, "Malay-Chinese" buyers or sellers should use the race "Malay".
The household ethnic classification is based on the applicant or their spouse (if any). At point of flat purchase, mixed race households can choose their household ethnic classification based on either the applicant's race or their spouse's race. For example, a "Chinese-Malay" couple can choose to purchase under Chinese or Malay. The ethnic classification will remain the same when you subsequently sell the flat on the open market.

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Re: PR APPLICATION CHANCE- Mixed couple

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 09 Aug 2021 5:39 pm

smoulder wrote:
Mon, 09 Aug 2021 5:05 pm
In the old days, I believe that the child would have no choice other than the father's race.

With the new system, I listed my Chindian daughter as Chinese Indian - which means that Chinese is her primary race (following my wife). I don't think "others" was an option. From what I can remember, the only options were the various permutations and combinations of our two races.

Ours was a conscious decision to list as Chinese first.
Correct. Both of mine are listed as Caucasians even though both have kopi-susu complexions. Now they can hyphenate if they want, but only as one race or the other or hyphenated with either race being dominant (first). They cannot be listed if one parent is Caucasian, as Eurasian even though in the rest of the world technically that is their race. Only here are they discriminated against with the singlish definition of Eurasian being very narrow in scope. Technically both of my children are Eurasians.
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Re: PR APPLICATION CHANCE- Mixed couple

Post by malcontent » Mon, 09 Aug 2021 6:29 pm

As an American, the term Eurasian has always struck me as being Eurocentric. Maybe that’s why the term Amerasian was adopted in other parts of Asia (unfortunately the term carries a certain stigma).

However, I did choose to list my kids as Eurasian. While some may argue that they technically are not - that argument is like saying mainland Chinese who are culturally & historically very different than Straits Chinese cannot be considered “real” Chinese here. I chose Eurasian because it seemed to be the term that is most accurate (ethnically) and understandable (locally).

If my kids end up living here long-term, I’d say the odds are greater that they would end up marrying a Chinese (simple statistics), so unless something changes with EIP they will probably be able to choose either Chinese or Indian/Others for an HDB purchase.
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Re: PR APPLICATION CHANCE- Mixed couple

Post by PartyLike-A-Russian » Sun, 15 Aug 2021 10:37 pm

MOCHS wrote:
Mon, 09 Aug 2021 2:17 pm
Do you think ICA or the government will make national secrets publicly available? :P

Of course not.

Even those who are in such jobs are also not allowed to disclose anything.
:D It's like a matter of faith now.
We cannot prove they don't exist.
We cannot prove they do.

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