PR APPLICATION CHANCE- Mixed couple

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Re: PR APPLICATION CHANCE- Mixed couple

Post by sp786 » Sun, 11 Jul 2021 1:00 am

To cut a long story short,
- i told the OP not to waste time speculating by posting profile because ICA criteria is not transparent and hence no one can assess except for ICA.

-Terrific and mediocre are stereotypes that were defined by these PR agencies I've interacted with, which are also implied in the assessments made on various threads of this forum- the more qualified you are and more salary you get they bump your chances as high but if you belong to minority and have a mediocre salary or older. Go to SGIP or any other PR consultancy - first they see your ethnicity and within that the abovesaid criteria.

Bottomline - It is mere speculation / bazi chart reading and not any educated prediction or privy info hence no value posting profiles for assessments. To tell this there is no need to indulge in personal attacks as seen before in this thread, take it or leave it thats all and that is upto the OP

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Re: PR APPLICATION CHANCE- Mixed couple

Post by tiktok » Sun, 11 Jul 2021 9:18 am

What this looks like: newbie tries to be helpful using knowledge gained from his personal experience; gets called "dickhead" by moderator.

The offense is he said says social integration does not help. In my tiny experience I've known expats who have got PR with ZERO social integration (whatever that might mean). So it doesn't seem far fetched.
I not troll/wacko/spammer.
Me no expat. Me foreigner.

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Re: PR APPLICATION CHANCE- Mixed couple

Post by x9200 » Sun, 11 Jul 2021 10:23 am

I think you are a bit too harsh on sp786. His initial statement has some inaccuracies and claims that are perhaps too categorical, but his message as I see it is just not to focus too much on (proving) social interactions because on the individual level this is something hard to prove.
Moreover - and this is my opinion, the way some people try to do this (e.g. ad hoc volunteering, donating blood etc.) may very well work against them.

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Re: PR APPLICATION CHANCE- Mixed couple

Post by wft » Sun, 11 Jul 2021 10:30 am

In any case, personal attack is not helpful and will spark unuseful debate like this...

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Post by PartyLike-A-Russian » Sun, 08 Aug 2021 1:00 pm

Hello,

I've read some arguing in this thread.
Guys (and girls if any), peace :)
MOCHS wrote:
Sat, 10 Jul 2021 10:15 pm
ICA can secretly follow an applicant for proof of integration, if they want to. I won’t be surprised about that.
It's the second time I read such statement on this web site. Is there any proof someone from ICA can really follow me? Sounds like an urban myth. I googled "ICA field officers" quickly and didn't find anything.
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Sat, 10 Jul 2021 10:15 pm
It has always be known that high income has never been a guarantee of getting a PR because an individual is likely to parachute to another country if given an opportunity with a higher pay bump.
I asked about this once, and the reason given was "greed". But I still don't get it... Why would someone with a stable annual income of 600k or 700k leave the country for a 5-10% hike? Especially, in our uncertain times. 700 or 770 sounds like too much for me.

Besides, few countries' tax rate is as low as Singapore's. The UAE maybe and a few more in the Gulf.

It would be rational to leave for 150k if your salary is 100. Leave the company, not the country.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 08 Aug 2021 1:38 pm

Partylike, that was me calling it greed. Usually along with the pleasurable bump in salary, all moving costs and other incidental costs are usually taken care of as well and additionally there is usually an added carrot of a quick step up the corporate ladder. Sometimes greed is measured in different ways. Singapore's cheapest answer to greed (in one of it's many forms) is the uplifting of the work title. Here they give you a new name card and $50 bucks, but face is more important to a local. So handing out namecards is a big bonus for them. Expats, not so much.
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Post by PartyLike-A-Russian » Sun, 08 Aug 2021 2:14 pm

sundaymorningstaple, looks like I value stability way more than others :)

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 08 Aug 2021 2:23 pm

I can agree to that. I do as well.
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Re: PR APPLICATION CHANCE- Mixed couple

Post by x9200 » Sun, 08 Aug 2021 3:55 pm

PartyLike-A-Russian wrote:
Sun, 08 Aug 2021 2:14 pm
sundaymorningstaple, looks like I value stability way more than others :)
Greed or no greed, but if the economy goes down highly paid expat type positions disappear first. I don't know a single person who under such circumstances accepted significant cut to stay. And the economy goes down from time to time.

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Re: PR APPLICATION CHANCE- Mixed couple

Post by PartyLike-A-Russian » Sun, 08 Aug 2021 9:16 pm

x9200 wrote:
Sun, 08 Aug 2021 3:55 pm
I don't know a single person who under such circumstances accepted significant cut to stay.
The alternative is to go back to their home country or elsewhere. They think it will be better there?

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Re: PR APPLICATION CHANCE- Mixed couple

Post by malcontent » Sun, 08 Aug 2021 9:52 pm

Did the OP say whether the daughter was Chindian or pure Chinese?
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Post by smoulder » Mon, 09 Aug 2021 1:57 am

malcontent wrote:
Sun, 08 Aug 2021 9:52 pm
Did the OP say whether the daughter was Chindian or pure Chinese?
Reading the post, "genetically" Chindian, ID card - Chinese. Why?

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Re: PR APPLICATION CHANCE- Mixed couple

Post by x9200 » Mon, 09 Aug 2021 9:23 am

PartyLike-A-Russian wrote:
Sun, 08 Aug 2021 9:16 pm
x9200 wrote:
Sun, 08 Aug 2021 3:55 pm
I don't know a single person who under such circumstances accepted significant cut to stay.
The alternative is to go back to their home country or elsewhere. They think it will be better there?
If such high flyer loses the job, it is more difficult for him or her to find another one locally by sheer number of such positions available. On the other hand if this person is so good the local companies would fight for him, so would be the case for the companies outside Singapore and he is likely to receive good offer overseas. All this translates to higher geomobility and lower likelihood to stay in SG for good.

Having said that, I don't see any significant negative impact of such people to local economy or infrastructure so not sure why it actually seems to matter.

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Re: PR APPLICATION CHANCE- Mixed couple

Post by MOCHS » Mon, 09 Aug 2021 2:17 pm

PartyLike-A-Russian wrote:
Sun, 08 Aug 2021 1:00 pm
It's the second time I read such statement on this web site. Is there any proof someone from ICA can really follow me? Sounds like an urban myth. I googled "ICA field officers" quickly and didn't find anything.
Do you think ICA or the government will make national secrets publicly available? :P

Of course not.

Even those who are in such jobs are also not allowed to disclose anything.

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Re: PR APPLICATION CHANCE- Mixed couple

Post by malcontent » Mon, 09 Aug 2021 4:57 pm

smoulder wrote:
Mon, 09 Aug 2021 1:57 am
malcontent wrote:
Sun, 08 Aug 2021 9:52 pm
Did the OP say whether the daughter was Chindian or pure Chinese?
Reading the post, "genetically" Chindian, ID card - Chinese. Why?
It just struck me as odd that the daughter was listed only “Chinese” race when presumably she has an Indian father.

Maybe the more relevant question: why list her as ethnically Chinese alone? Does that really help if they know it’s only half the truth? In practice, won’t they put her in the “Others” bucket?
It’s not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters ~ Epictetus

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