EP rejection due to salary change

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EP rejection due to salary change

Post by Nycsing » Fri, 07 May 2021 10:23 am

Has anyone experienced EP rejection stating “change from last salary”. The change is less than 10% upward.

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Re: EP rejection due to salary change

Post by seal_phil » Fri, 07 May 2021 10:37 am

Haven't heard of this before. Hopefully others can weigh in.

Did you get a rejection? How many days/weeks after your application did you get this?

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Re: EP rejection due to salary change

Post by Nycsing » Fri, 07 May 2021 11:29 am

Yes got rejection 7 days after applying. Makes no sense. It just says “we have noted a significant change in salary since his/her last employment. If you want to appeal pls submit last 3 months paystub, bank statement showing salary deposit, letter explaining change in salary”

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Re: EP rejection due to salary change

Post by singaporeflyer » Fri, 07 May 2021 12:07 pm

Nycsing wrote:
Fri, 07 May 2021 11:29 am
Yes got rejection 7 days after applying. Makes no sense. It just says “we have noted a significant change in salary since his/her last employment. If you want to appeal pls submit last 3 months paystub, bank statement showing salary deposit, letter explaining change in salary”
Why no sense? It is just that MOM wants to verify and be sure. Why can't they?

You should be feeling Ok that they have asked to appeal with proof and they may be willing to consider. In many cases, the rejection reason is not made open. Are you aware?

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Re: EP rejection due to salary change

Post by seal_phil » Fri, 07 May 2021 12:52 pm

Maybe because OP mentioned that the change in salary is less than 10% and yet MoM wrote back the change in salary is significant?

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Re: EP rejection due to salary change

Post by singaporeflyer » Fri, 07 May 2021 12:53 pm

seal_phil wrote:
Fri, 07 May 2021 12:52 pm
Maybe because OP mentioned that the change in salary is less than 10%?
singaporeflyer wrote:
Fri, 07 May 2021 12:07 pm
[quote=Nycsing post_id=845539 time=<a href="tel:1620358143">1620358143</a> user_id=255067]
Yes got rejection 7 days after applying. Makes no sense. It just says “we have noted a significant change in salary since his/her last employment. If you want to appeal pls submit last 3 months paystub, bank statement showing salary deposit, letter explaining change in salary”
Why no sense? It is just that MOM wants to verify and be sure. Why can't they?

You should be feeling Ok that they have asked to appeal with proof and they may be willing to consider. In many cases, the rejection reason is not made open. Are you aware?
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What MOM wants to check is past history of salary deposited and not about the new 10% change.

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Re: EP rejection due to salary change

Post by quickbrownfox » Tue, 25 May 2021 9:32 pm

I'm also in the same boat. I have 7 years exp and in IT industry. My current salary is 7400. My asking salary was 8500. But they offered me 9400. Also with other bonuses like company shares, up to 15th month, etc. Not sure if that will make it harder to be approved.

Got this rejection reason.

We have noted a significant change in this candidate's salary compared to his/her previous employment. If you want us to
reconsider this candidate's application, you need to give us the following: job description, employment contract, his/ her latest
Notice of Assessment from the Inland Revenue Authority of Singapore (IRAS), latest 3 months pay slips and personal bank
statements showing his/ her name, bank account number and electronic payment of his/ her salary, as well as a letter to
explain the change in this candidate's salary compared to his/ her previous employment.



The hiring manager and supposed to be my manager show great interest, but I'm still doubtful upon reading some comments on other expat sites. HR issued an appeal last Monday with the required documents. It will be a long waiting game and I can't stop thinking about it.

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Re: EP rejection due to salary change

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 26 May 2021 1:16 pm

This happens a lot when companies are playing the fool with MOM. A lot of them declare higher salaries but then ask for kickbacks from the employees as a means to let them keep working at a rate that won't put them in S pass territory (and levies/quotas). Not saying this is the case here, but MOM has learned the hard way. It's better to make you wait instead of them having to do follow-up and such. Just give them what they want and all should be okay.
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Re: EP rejection due to salary change

Post by quickbrownfox » Wed, 26 May 2021 7:41 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Wed, 26 May 2021 1:16 pm
This happens a lot when companies are playing the fool with MOM. A lot of them declare higher salaries but then ask for kickbacks from the employees as a means to let them keep working at a rate that won't put them in S pass territory (and levies/quotas). Not saying this is the case here, but MOM has learned the hard way. It's better to make you wait instead of them having to do follow-up and such. Just give them what they want and all should be okay.
Thanks for responding.

So far I'm very confident that my track records are clean, and I have not been a part of any shady activities. I also got feedback that I did really well in all the interviews and technical exams. The bank statements and payslips submitted were also in sync. The company is a startup with huge funding, and they mentioned to me that they have 70% local/PR vs foreigner.

Given that information do you think I have a good chance for the appeal? What really worries me is the significant change in the total package which is almost 3k+/month. I feel that I'm at the mercy of a random MOM officer.

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Re: EP rejection due to salary change

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 26 May 2021 8:07 pm

There was some news a while back early this year or late last year that in some cases, they were rejecting and on follow up by HR then they were issuing said passes, Not sure why, but the MOM & ICA often move in mysterious ways.. As long as all things are documented and HR gives them what they want, there shouldn't be any worry. It's a big jump and they also have to tick boxes when they are reviewing applications. A huge jump in salary makes for a definite red flag. Giving them what they want gets rid of the flag.
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Re: EP rejection due to salary change

Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 27 May 2021 10:44 am

quickbrownfox wrote:
Wed, 26 May 2021 7:41 pm
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Wed, 26 May 2021 1:16 pm
This happens a lot when companies are playing the fool with MOM. A lot of them declare higher salaries but then ask for kickbacks from the employees as a means to let them keep working at a rate that won't put them in S pass territory (and levies/quotas). Not saying this is the case here, but MOM has learned the hard way. It's better to make you wait instead of them having to do follow-up and such. Just give them what they want and all should be okay.
Thanks for responding.

So far I'm very confident that my track records are clean, and I have not been a part of any shady activities. I also got feedback that I did really well in all the interviews and technical exams. The bank statements and payslips submitted were also in sync. The company is a startup with huge funding, and they mentioned to me that they have 70% local/PR vs foreigner.

Given that information do you think I have a good chance for the appeal? What really worries me is the significant change in the total package which is almost 3k+/month. I feel that I'm at the mercy of a random MOM officer.
You will mostly get it. But i don't agree with the random MOM officer. It is the internal policies and rules and not the officer. Officer can't do things at his own will. It is just that the policies have been tightened to prevent work arounds.

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Re: EP rejection due to salary change

Post by quickbrownfox » Thu, 27 May 2021 2:01 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Thu, 27 May 2021 10:44 am
You will mostly get it. But i don't agree with the random MOM officer. It is the internal policies and rules and not the officer. Officer can't do things at his own will. It is just that the policies have been tightened to prevent work arounds.
Thanks for the positive outlook. Really helped reduced my stress level. Also, thanks for clarifying my misconception about the officer in charge. I may have misinterpreted what others are saying; that outcome MAY depend on the officer in charge. I thought of this as if officer is happy then you are lucky. :D

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Re: EP rejection due to salary change

Post by Nycsing » Thu, 27 May 2021 4:02 pm

Any idea how long it normally takes to get a response on appeal after submission of requested docs? After required docs were submitted, then another query was asked within 24 hrs - which were immediately answered.

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Re: EP rejection due to salary change

Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 27 May 2021 4:11 pm

Nycsing wrote:
Thu, 27 May 2021 4:02 pm
Any idea how long it normally takes to get a response on appeal after submission of requested docs? After required docs were submitted, then another query was asked within 24 hrs - which were immediately answered.
can take up to 3-4 weeks.

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Re: EP rejection due to salary change

Post by shaym » Thu, 27 May 2021 4:31 pm

You may like to try engaging a HR specialist to help? I have a friend who hired this HR consultant after he was rejected a few times and they got his EP approved within 3 weeks if I recall correctly. You need to have the experience and know how it works.

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