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PR appeal success stories

Post by Sammy_sg » Tue, 06 Apr 2021 12:16 am

Have anyone ever heard about any PR appeal success stories? Please share here

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Post by Lisafuller » Thu, 08 Apr 2021 10:29 am

I don’t know of any, most of my colleagues have been successful after reapplying after rejection. This link contains concise information about the appeal process. https://www.moveto.sg/appeal

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 08 Apr 2021 12:10 pm

Sammy_sg wrote:
Tue, 06 Apr 2021 12:16 am
Have anyone ever heard about any PR appeal success stories? Please share here
I can confirm that appeals don't always work. My first application and subsequent appeal was rejected but that was back in the late 1980's. My reapplication 3 years later was successful.
But there been a lot of water over the dam or under the bridge as it were since those days.

Frankly, if your appeal doesn't provide something very dramatic that was left out of the initial application (other than a BS cover letter) your odds of having a successful appeal are almost nil.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Post by mystic_river » Thu, 08 Apr 2021 6:36 pm

The concept of appeal doesn't exit anymore (if it ever even did, I am not sure).

From ICA website:

My permanent residence (PR) application was unsuccessful. What can I do?

Answer:
All applications for PR are carefully considered and reviewed by ICA. If there are additional or updated information or documents since your last application, you may consider submitting a fresh application online through MyICA or e-Service.

Please note that the outcome of the application will remain the same if there are no changes to your circumstances, and if the same information or documents are submitted.

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Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 08 Apr 2021 6:45 pm

mystic_river wrote:
Thu, 08 Apr 2021 6:36 pm
The concept of appeal doesn't exit anymore (if it ever even did, I am not sure).

From ICA website:

My permanent residence (PR) application was unsuccessful. What can I do?

Answer:
All applications for PR are carefully considered and reviewed by ICA. If there are additional or updated information or documents since your last application, you may consider submitting a fresh application online through MyICA or e-Service.

Please note that the outcome of the application will remain the same if there are no changes to your circumstances, and if the same information or documents are submitted.
It is still there. But the outcome of appeal will mostly be the same unless something big was missed out in the main application or something change suddenly after the rejection.

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Re: PR appeal success stories

Post by mystic_river » Thu, 08 Apr 2021 6:50 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Thu, 08 Apr 2021 6:45 pm
mystic_river wrote:
Thu, 08 Apr 2021 6:36 pm
The concept of appeal doesn't exit anymore (if it ever even did, I am not sure).

From ICA website:

My permanent residence (PR) application was unsuccessful. What can I do?

Answer:
All applications for PR are carefully considered and reviewed by ICA. If there are additional or updated information or documents since your last application, you may consider submitting a fresh application online through MyICA or e-Service.

Please note that the outcome of the application will remain the same if there are no changes to your circumstances, and if the same information or documents are submitted.
It is still there. But the outcome of appeal will mostly be the same unless something big was missed out in the main application or something change suddenly after the rejection.
Something big was missed out? I’d like to see how an applicant would go about appealing to ICA that they missed out on something after they specifically say they carefully review each and every application.

Sorry, I don’t mean to sound sarcastic. I’m just imagining how ICA would not want to entertain such requests from applicants.

Btw, and I’ve always wondered, how does one go about submitting an appeal anyway? I know there aren’t any avenues to do so online.

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Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 08 Apr 2021 6:56 pm

mystic_river wrote:
Thu, 08 Apr 2021 6:50 pm
singaporeflyer wrote:
Thu, 08 Apr 2021 6:45 pm
mystic_river wrote:
Thu, 08 Apr 2021 6:36 pm
The concept of appeal doesn't exit anymore (if it ever even did, I am not sure).

From ICA website:

My permanent residence (PR) application was unsuccessful. What can I do?

Answer:
All applications for PR are carefully considered and reviewed by ICA. If there are additional or updated information or documents since your last application, you may consider submitting a fresh application online through MyICA or e-Service.

Please note that the outcome of the application will remain the same if there are no changes to your circumstances, and if the same information or documents are submitted.
It is still there. But the outcome of appeal will mostly be the same unless something big was missed out in the main application or something change suddenly after the rejection.
Something big was missed out? I’d like to see how an applicant would go about appealing to ICA that they missed out on something after they specifically say they carefully review each and every application.

Sorry, I don’t mean to sound sarcastic. I’m just imagining how ICA would not want to entertain such requests from applicants.

Btw, and I’ve always wondered, how does one go about submitting an appeal anyway? I know there aren’t any avenues to do so online.
Missed out from applicant side and not from ICA's side.

I have done it manually (submission at ICA) and via email few years ago. But the result was the same. Rejected.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 09 Apr 2021 12:33 am

When I did it it was ALL manual. AND you had a actual interview with not one but two ICA officers in tandem (Good cop/Bad cop). Oh, in those days, an appeal was reviewed by the same officer who interviewed you the first time but you didn't have a face to face for the review. As SF has noted, now I don't even think you are given the opportunity to appeal, just reapply and do it right the first time.
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Re: PR appeal success stories

Post by smoulder » Fri, 09 Apr 2021 11:42 am

I concur with the theory that reapplying after an appeal was rejected might result in success. This is what happened to me recently. Rejected in 2018, appealed, rejected about a month later. Reapplied in 2019 with a new job and 2 salary increments since the rejection. Success in 2019. Obviously, each case is unique and will be evaluated on it's own merits so merely appealing won't in itself result in success the next time around.

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Post by mishirari » Sat, 29 May 2021 11:52 am

Hi,
I had applied PR with my family in Oct-2020 which got rejected on Apr-2021. I am thinking of putting appeal request. Below is my profile and changes after rejection.

Profile -
Nationality - Indian
Length of Stay in Singapore - 9.5 years
Number of times applied - 5
Applied as - Family
Members applied for - Myself on EP (36 yrs), Wife on DP (34yrs), a son on DP( ~6yrs) and a daughter on DP (~3yrs)
Profession - Husband and wife both working
Job Profile - IT, Project Management (Husband) , trade Support(wife)
Salary - myself: ~$120k, wife: ~$70k

Changes in Profile after rejection (Apr21)
Husband(Primary Applicant) -
1. EP got extended by 1 year (from May21 to May22)
2. Job profile changes to Data Analytics
3. eLearning and Certification from one of the data analytics tool
4. got appreciation note from PA for volunteering activity
Wife -
1. Dependent Pass got converted to Employment Pass
2 . Salary revision by 20%

Based on above changes, should I consider to appeal for PR Rejection?

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 29 May 2021 12:05 pm

Changes that have taken place AFTER the original application will NOT be taken into consideration in an appeal. An appeal will only result in as change IF there were something major left out of the original application that could materially change the outcome. Anything that has happened from the date of submission of the original application cannot be used so the appeal will not overturn the original findings. You best bet is to wait 2 years from the rejection and apply with a fresh application. This ONLY IF you have had major material changes besides a COLA raise or a renewed EP/S pass.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Re: PR appeal success stories

Post by Sunjackal » Sat, 29 May 2021 5:03 pm

Out of interest, once my family have actually moved to SG, should we update ICA on how our employment status has changed, e.g my wife beginning a role working for an SG company etc or do they just not care once the application is made?

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Post by singaporeflyer » Sat, 29 May 2021 7:18 pm

mishirari wrote:
Sat, 29 May 2021 11:52 am
Hi,
I had applied PR with my family in Oct-2020 which got rejected on Apr-2021. I am thinking of putting appeal request. Below is my profile and changes after rejection.

Profile -
Nationality - Indian
Length of Stay in Singapore - 9.5 years
Number of times applied - 5
Applied as - Family
Members applied for - Myself on EP (36 yrs), Wife on DP (34yrs), a son on DP( ~6yrs) and a daughter on DP (~3yrs)
Profession - Husband and wife both working
Job Profile - IT, Project Management (Husband) , trade Support(wife)
Salary - myself: ~$120k, wife: ~$70k

Changes in Profile after rejection (Apr21)
Husband(Primary Applicant) -
1. EP got extended by 1 year (from May21 to May22)
2. Job profile changes to Data Analytics
3. eLearning and Certification from one of the data analytics tool
4. got appreciation note from PA for volunteering activity
Wife -
1. Dependent Pass got converted to Employment Pass
2 . Salary revision by 20%

Based on above changes, should I consider to appeal for PR Rejection?
Sorry to say that the above changes might not be enough to get a positive outcome. just my 2 cents.

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Re: PR appeal success stories

Post by singaporeflyer » Sat, 29 May 2021 7:18 pm

Sunjackal wrote:
Sat, 29 May 2021 5:03 pm
Out of interest, once my family have actually moved to SG, should we update ICA on how our employment status has changed, e.g my wife beginning a role working for an SG company etc or do they just not care once the application is made?
You can, but for it to make a difference to the application the person has to be working for some period of time

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Re: PR appeal success stories

Post by singaporeflyer » Fri, 04 Jun 2021 12:11 pm

K3b wrote:
Fri, 04 Jun 2021 10:18 am
Hi! I’m new to this forum so just wanting some advice from some of the more experienced people here. Hope I’m posting in the right place :)
Me and my husband had applied for a PR in July 2020 which got rejected in June 2021 ( few days back) just wanted you give out my husbands Profile ( primary applicant) and one out what should be our next step.
Should we appeal( my husband has had a major salary boost since when we applied and also, I have my 2nd cousin staying here who has a family of 4 and all are Singapore citizens since 2018, I couldn’t mention about the family tie anywhere in my original application) or wait for a few years before we re-apply ?
Husbands details:

Age : 30
Race : Indian
Gender : Male
Marital Status : Married ( ROM in SG)
Education : Masters from NUS ( he has been in sg since 2016) also served 3 year bond with local sg company.
Current Field of Work : He is part owner of an AI and data science training and consultancy company ( started in 2017 with a local guy who is the director)
Length of stay :little more than 5 years now.
No of tax return :3 or 4 ( I’m not too sure)
Salary : 100K
Pass : EP ( since he is not a citizen/ PR he needs an EP to work in his own venture)
I’m into education too, came in sg in 2020 and work as a teacher on a dp in an International School.
Would be really grateful for any help or guidance :D
Thank you!
Not going to be easy and appeal will surely not help.

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