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Appeal on PR rejected recently

Post by snayak21 » Mon, 29 Mar 2021 8:27 pm

I have been in Singapore for past 8 yrs and the PR has been rejected. What is the possibility of getting approved if I appeal to ICA again?
Change in information from the PR application submitted is
- Salary increase from 12K per mth to 17k per mth
- Manulife insurance not shown before worth 12 k / yr, paying from last 3 yrs and planned for next 10 yrs
-Paying donations charities which was not shown in previous PR application.
Age-38
Nationality - Indian
Married no kids

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Re: Appeal on PR rejected recently

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 29 Mar 2021 8:41 pm

Changes to your salary help, but not considerably in your case, because you are already drawing a good salary so it's not going to do much, if anything.

- Insurance nil consideration, not helping the country, only yourself.
- charities has been abused so much by your ethnic group, that it no longer a consideration - it's been found that most quit soon after obtaining PR so for the most part ICA now knows it's just a ruse (nothing altruistic about it).
-No male children, in fact, no children at all so no future cannon fodder or cannon fodder incubation ovens either.

Realistically? you can try but also keep your Plan B if you have one. I wish I could be positive but it is what it is and I don't blow smoke. Good Luck though. We have see some strange things happen over the years here.

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Re: Appeal on PR rejected recently

Post by the observer » Mon, 29 Mar 2021 8:48 pm

If an applicants chance is judged based on taxes paid, then logic dictates that your chances will triple if you have bought a car (paid for COE) and bought a house (paid 20% stamp duty).

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Re: Appeal on PR rejected recently

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 30 Mar 2021 3:07 pm

the observer wrote:
Mon, 29 Mar 2021 8:48 pm
If an applicants chance is judged based on taxes paid, then logic dictates that your chances will triple if you have bought a car (paid for COE) and bought a house (paid 20% stamp duty).
I don't think absd or Parf is what the government is referring to when talking about adding value to the country.

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Re: Appeal on PR rejected recently

Post by the observer » Tue, 30 Mar 2021 4:23 pm

Personally I’d think coe/parf wouldn’t help.
But I have mentioned about knowing people whom had an easier path to PRs due to property ownership.

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Re: Appeal on PR rejected recently

Post by x9200 » Tue, 30 Mar 2021 5:43 pm

COE is to discourage people from buying a car, It's sort of a penalty for those who insist of having one contributing to jams, noise and pollution. How this suppose to help? If anything, I would sooner see as something negative.

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Re: Appeal on PR rejected recently

Post by the observer » Tue, 30 Mar 2021 7:36 pm

x9200 wrote:
Tue, 30 Mar 2021 5:43 pm
COE is to discourage people from buying a car, It's sort of a penalty for those who insist of having one contributing to jams, noise and pollution. How this suppose to help? If anything, I would sooner see as something negative.
That’s a sensible reason to impose COEs. In fact, personally I think there shouldn’t be any brownie points to gain PR from having a car.

But truth is, I don’t know.
But what I am aware of is that tax receipts are important, and if an applicant supposedly edges his competition due to the amount of taxes he has paid, isn’t COE tax?

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Re: Appeal on PR rejected recently

Post by the observer » Tue, 30 Mar 2021 7:46 pm

In any case, coe revenue is in the tune of 2.5 to 3.5 billion a year. Pretty sure it’s a “pleasant” problem to have.

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Re: Appeal on PR rejected recently

Post by x9200 » Tue, 30 Mar 2021 8:50 pm

Taxes are important not because they are taxes but because they are directly contributing to the country's budget and indicate ones ability to sustain herself or himself. More income tax paid more goes to the budget with the base of expenses (utilization of the country infrastructure and services) only slightly increasing at the same time.

COE, may have some nice monetary value but I don't see it as the instrument established to support budget. It is more to address some issues.
How about alcoholic beverages and cigarettes? So more one drinks and smokes better chance to get PR as indirectly contributing to hefty duty taxes?

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Re: Appeal on PR rejected recently

Post by Ignorant1 » Wed, 31 Mar 2021 7:59 pm

I was in similar situation like you , After doing some research , I chose to put in fresh application.I dint come across a single success story for appeal. Also , no clarity on wait time too . (I am assuming that you dint highlight your salary increase when your application was pending )

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Re: Appeal on PR rejected recently

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 31 Mar 2021 8:33 pm

x9200 wrote:
Tue, 30 Mar 2021 8:50 pm
How about alcoholic beverages and cigarettes? So more one drinks and smokes better chance to get PR as indirectly contributing to hefty duty taxes?
Nah, that is offset by the increased subsidies that have to be paid to those same persons when they are hospitalized with cirrhosis of the liver and lung cancer.

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Re: Appeal on PR rejected recently

Post by Nav5700 » Wed, 31 Mar 2021 8:34 pm

Man, Singapore PR feels like a lottery. I have been in Singapore for 15 years, got educated from a Singaporean University, worked in a local company for 10 years, married a Singaporean and has a male child. Both me and my spouse work. My application was rejected, they took one year for rejection. I appealed, that was rejected within 2 months. I have appealed again and waiting outcome but little hope. On the other hand my Singaporean friend, married a girl from a small Indian town, brought her here, within 2 years of her marriage, they applied and she got her PR. She is not working anywhere and she doesn't have a university degree or anything. Not sure how they hand out PRs here.

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Re: Appeal on PR rejected recently

Post by MOCHS » Wed, 31 Mar 2021 10:20 pm

Nav5700 wrote:
Wed, 31 Mar 2021 8:34 pm
Man, Singapore PR feels like a lottery.

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Not sure how they hand out PRs here.
You must be new here. Every application is handled on a case by case basis. Unless you’re a carbon copy of your friend.

You failed to mentioned the following:

- Applied on own merit or via spousal sponsor?
- Your nationality, race, and age
- Your spouse’s race and age
- Your salary & occupation
- Your length of marriage
- Any criminal records/bankruptcy
- Spent a significant outside of SG repeatedly over the past 15 years
- Etc.

PR has CMIO quota. Fall into any of the minority races and you’ll be competing with every other candidate.

Age does play a part for obvious reasons.

Salary too high and ICA might feel you will up lorry any time and resettle elsewhere.

Too short of a marriage and ICA might feel you married just for a PR aka marriage of convenience.

The rest are self explanatory once you browse through the anecdotal evidence on the forum.

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Re: Appeal on PR rejected recently

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 31 Mar 2021 11:01 pm

MOCHS, I couldn't have expressed nearly as neatly, but it's spot on. =D>

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Re: Appeal on PR rejected recently

Post by x9200 » Thu, 01 Apr 2021 4:54 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Wed, 31 Mar 2021 8:33 pm
x9200 wrote:
Tue, 30 Mar 2021 8:50 pm
How about alcoholic beverages and cigarettes? So more one drinks and smokes better chance to get PR as indirectly contributing to hefty duty taxes?
Nah, that is offset by the increased subsidies that have to be paid to those same persons when they are hospitalized with cirrhosis of the liver and lung cancer.
That's the whole point. COE is offset by increased environmental pollution and traffic congestion.

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