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Re: Expats get covid letter for vaccination?

Post by x9200 » Thu, 08 Apr 2021 6:20 pm

https://www.businessinsider.com/covid-v ... lts-2021-4
Adults over 65 generally have weaker immune systems

Our immune systems tend to deteriorate as we age, so older people's bodies don't work as hard to defend them against foreign invaders — including the protein introduced to the body via a vaccine. As a result, side effects are often milder and less numerous among the elderly than among younger adults.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 08 Apr 2021 6:29 pm

Honestly, I couldn't even find the injection site 15 minutes after it was done. No bruising, no lump under the skin, no tenderness, and that was it. Same for jab #2. I was an early guinea pig having the 1st jab on the 21st of Feb with the 2nd on the 15 of March. As a member of the PA (considered front facing personnel AND over 70). I was also used to promote vaccine for those members of the public who were hesitant (the over 70's). Oh, I usually get bruising with blood tests because I have very small deep veins so I look like I've been attacked by a mad Singer sewing machine before they get the blood needed. The vaccination is injected into the muscle and not a vein. Extremely fine needle as well. I generally never get headaches, or fevers as I've not been sick since I was in Primary 1 (injuries are a different story).
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Re: Expats get covid letter for vaccination?

Post by MOCHS » Thu, 08 Apr 2021 9:26 pm

I guess the side effects is a heng suay thing for the older people. The elderly cleaners at my workplace seemed to be doing okay after the vaccination though I heard one of them took a 3 day MC.

And ouch, sms. I’ve done phlebotomy (drawing blood) before years ago and “fishing” for difficult veins is something I will not do as I’ve had that done on me before. If the arm vein can’t be palpated, I would go for the vein on the back of the hand with a butterfly needle to get the blood I need. In rare cases you can take blood from the vein near the ankle too.

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Re: Expats get covid letter for vaccination?

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 09 Apr 2021 12:07 am

The last three have been two from the back of the hand and one from around the bulge at the end of the ulna at the wrist. But not before they insisted on trying from one inside elbow, even after telling them it's basically a non-starter. Fortunately/Sadly I have a dangerously high pain threshold. So much so I had a doctor tell me back in 1978 it would get me in trouble some day if I'm not careful as while I can see injuries that take place externally, I won't always be aware of internal injuries. The doctor in 1978 was a burn specialist from the Baton Rouge Burn Clinic in Louisiana (I used to work offshore in the Oil & Gas industry), I was blown up in a offshore explosion 120 miles offshore and they had to fly a medivac chopper out to get me and then back. 4 hours later I arrived at the hospital. Doctor asked me what they gave me for pain. I said nothing, which was true. I instantly became legend there as I had over 30% body burns and never went into shock or lost consciousness. So, I probably wouldn't have shown/felt any mild symptoms for the vaccine injections in any case. I completely walk off a bout of dengue last July and only found out about it a day after it left my system (Annual Blood test and Blood count on a Monday and the Blood test results and a 2nd blood count on Friday which was normal but the Blood test revealed I had dengue on that Monday. By Friday my blood count was back to normal. I think dengue has an 8~10 day run normally.
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Re: Expats get covid letter for vaccination?

Post by Lisafuller » Fri, 09 Apr 2021 12:33 pm

MOCHS wrote:
Thu, 08 Apr 2021 6:10 pm
It’s hard to say without knowing if blood samples were taken at various time points to test for the immune response.

My friends and I speculated maybe the older generation did not complain about their symptoms and toughed it out. Even my mother didn’t want to take Panadol for the muscle ache and headache post-vaccination.
That could be the case, but I doubt it. None of my parents, nor their friends, have said anything about experiencing side effects. My dad had a slight muscle ache and headache, but other than that he was fine.

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Re: Expats get covid letter for vaccination?

Post by Lisafuller » Fri, 09 Apr 2021 12:35 pm

x9200 wrote:
Thu, 08 Apr 2021 6:20 pm
https://www.businessinsider.com/covid-v ... lts-2021-4
Adults over 65 generally have weaker immune systems

Our immune systems tend to deteriorate as we age, so older people's bodies don't work as hard to defend them against foreign invaders — including the protein introduced to the body via a vaccine. As a result, side effects are often milder and less numerous among the elderly than among younger adults.
Yes, this was exactly what I meant. It doesn’t seem right that we get stronger and healthier as we age, or else we’d be immortal!

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Re: Expats get covid letter for vaccination?

Post by Lisafuller » Fri, 09 Apr 2021 12:38 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Thu, 08 Apr 2021 6:29 pm
Honestly, I couldn't even find the injection site 15 minutes after it was done. No bruising, no lump under the skin, no tenderness, and that was it. Same for jab #2.

I generally never get headaches, or fevers as I've not been sick since I was in Primary 1 (injuries are a different story).
Same for my dad. If not for the little band-aid indicating the site of the injection, I would not have been able to tell at all. The needle must have really been tiny to not leave a mark.

Really? Primary 1? That must be at least 65 years since you’re now in your 70s.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 09 Apr 2021 2:18 pm

Exactly. Employer and the military loved me as I never went on MC unless it was for an annual physical for my Class D license. But injury down time is a different story when I can actually see the injuries. Example, I though I was getting arthritis in my left wrist (or Carpal Tunnel Synd) so went to a specialists clinic here and they did xrays and an MRI on my wrist. When I went in to have the discussion as to the prognosis, the Doc asked me when I broke my wrist. ???? No idea, but the xray showed that the carpal one bone had been fractured at the bottom of the U shape and healed (an old injury) but what was causing the swelling was the fact that when the carpal one slammed into the forearm bone it destroyed the cartilage and that was what was causing the inflammation. I wore a wrist guard for about 6 months, but it was uncomfortable so I stopped. I just live with the swelling now as I know what is causing it. I've never had the flu or even a cold that I can remember. Yep. I'll be 74 in a couple of months. Oh, wait, I'll be 47. I'm dyslexic - I wish!!! :D :D
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Post by BigginHill » Fri, 09 Apr 2021 2:47 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
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Exactly. Employer and the military loved me as I never went on MC
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Re: Expats get covid letter for vaccination?

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 09 Apr 2021 2:58 pm

Damn! I've been found out! :devil:
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Re: Expats get covid letter for vaccination?

Post by Addadude » Fri, 09 Apr 2021 3:20 pm

Lisafuller wrote:
Fri, 09 Apr 2021 12:35 pm
It doesn’t seem right that we get stronger and healthier as we age, or else we’d be immortal!
Have you read SMS's replies on this thread? I think he might have cracked the code! Him and Keith Richards...
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Re: Expats get covid letter for vaccination?

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 09 Apr 2021 3:55 pm

:devil: Gotta admit I saw the Stones on their 1st US tour back at the Baltimore Civic Centre (as it was known back then) the year I graduated from High School on Nov 12th 1965. I saw them again at the Washington DC Capital Centre when I was a tax accountant in DC at the time 10 years later on July 2nd, 1975. Couldn't get a ticket when they were here a couple years ago, all sold out before put out for sale I believe at stupid prices as well. So, yeah, Keith & I go back a long way! But I look better than he does! :mrgreen:
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Re: Expats get covid letter for vaccination?

Post by Lisafuller » Sat, 10 Apr 2021 1:13 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Fri, 09 Apr 2021 2:18 pm
Exactly. Employer and the military loved me as I never went on MC unless it was for an annual physical for my Class D license. But injury down time is a different story when I can actually see the injuries. Example, I though I was getting arthritis in my left wrist (or Carpal Tunnel Synd) so went to a specialists clinic here and they did xrays and an MRI on my wrist. When I went in to have the discussion as to the prognosis, the Doc asked me when I broke my wrist. ???? No idea, but the xray showed that the carpal one bone had been fractured at the bottom of the U shape and healed (an old injury) but what was causing the swelling was the fact that when the carpal one slammed into the forearm bone it destroyed the cartilage and that was what was causing the inflammation. I wore a wrist guard for about 6 months, but it was uncomfortable so I stopped. I just live with the swelling now as I know what is causing it. I've never had the flu or even a cold that I can remember. Yep. I'll be 74 in a couple of months. Oh, wait, I'll be 47. I'm dyslexic - I wish!!! :D :D
Wow, that's incredible! I thought had a strong immune system, I get sick
around one a year and even then its always something minor like a cold.

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Re: Expats get covid letter for vaccination?

Post by malcontent » Sun, 11 Apr 2021 11:30 pm

Where exactly are these vaccination given? I hope it won’t be at the community centre... I’ve seen the goings on there and at any given time there are dozens upon dozens of people sitting on these folding chairs waiting for their turn. Ugh, that seems like it could take at least half the day, if not more.

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Re: Expats get covid letter for vaccination?

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 12 Apr 2021 12:36 am

I had mine at our community centre. The first shot was in a virtually empty hall as I was a early vaccinated front-liner (21 Feb). The 2nd jab was on the 15th of Mar and it was a full house inside and outside, but I have to admit, I only waited 30 minutes and then 5 minutes processing/jabbing then another 30 minute daydreaming session. So around 1.5 hours given I was talking to all my other RC & CC members for a while before actually getting in line. It's well streamlined considering. I was impressed after I saw how smoothly it actually was proceeding.
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