Please provide individual salaries.SGIndian wrote: ↑Fri, 15 Jan 2021 9:18 amHi,
I have been following this forum for many years and thought of sharing our unsuccessful attempt to get PR.
Our profile:
Applied as family of 3, my husband is the main applicant (mid 30s), myself (early 30s), Son (3 years)
Race: Indian
Length of stay: Husband - 11 years in SG, Myself - 6 years, Son born in SG
Occupation: my husband is working as an engineering consultant in power/energy/electricity sector, I am working as a program manager (admin manager) for a semi-govt firm.
Education: Husband - Masters in Engineering from NUS, I have MBA from India, Son attending Sparkletots
Salary: Combined annual salary is around 160 K
My husband came to Singapore in 2009 for his Masters program and he stayed on here. I came here in 2014 after our marriage. This is our second PR application. First one was in 2015 and it was rejected in 3 months time. Second application was in 2020 July and it is rejected in exactly 6 months time.
We submitted two other relevant documents with our application - I have been volunteering with National Heritage Board as a Museum docent since 2015. And my husband speaks Mandarin in a reasonable way. He has HSK Level 4 certificate.
To be honest, we expected a rejection but we thought it is worth to try.
Yep. Seriously big mistake. IT will take years of repeated applications to over come this I suspect.smoulder wrote: ↑Fri, 15 Jan 2021 10:54 amAside from salary and the obvious difficulties due to ethnic quotas, I wonder if your husband not invoking his PR invitation back in the day will forever come back to haunt you. The government will probably view it as a lack of interest/rejection of PR. And they are known to have a long memory.
There is were the problem started. He should have taken up the invitation in 2009, e.g., signaled his intentions to take up PR. He shouldn't have waited until he found a job after graduation. They wanted the commitment in 2009. Obviously he would have been written off after two years of not responding to the letter. As PNGMK said, the ICA and the MOM both have long, long memories. While his response was cute, it was spot on and damned accurate as well.SGIndian wrote: ↑Fri, 15 Jan 2021 10:19 amAnd most funny thing is my husband had a PR invitation letter he received in 2009 when he just started his MEngg program He finished MEngg in 2011 and got job immediately. He approached ICA with this letter, but they told that it is not valid anymore. Haha..
You're right, and I hope more people start calling it what it really is - a variant of Apartheid, i.e. non-indigeninous people using discrimination to remain in power.
I remember the letter said something like "to apply PR once you obtained employment after the graduation". I've included the letter with my application, and rejected too.SGIndian wrote: ↑Fri, 15 Jan 2021 10:19 amAnd most funny thing is my husband had a PR invitation letter he received in 2009 when he just started his MEngg program He finished MEngg in 2011 and got job immediately. He approached ICA with this letter, but they told that it is not valid anymore. Haha..
The government hasn't ever said it wasn't. In fact in the past couple of years they have stated quite openly that they use immigration to keep the ethnic levels at a level 'they' are comfortable with. These percentages are well known. It is also know that the Chinese have the lowest TRF of the three major races here, with Malay the highest (but still abysmally low) with Indians somewhere in the middle. There aren't any surprises. So with the quotas easily figured out, and the bulk of the applications coming from the race with only 7~8% of the demographic, then the other factors play an important part (not in the overall annual quota but in the demographic quota. You are not competing against Chinese & Malays and Caucasian, etc, but only among your ethnic demographic. The faster that demographic reaches it saturation point for the year, regardless of your credos you will have to reapply in a later year (unless you are a rocket scientist or brain surgeon. Oh, and that's why often you hear of co-workers of the same race getting theirs but you not getting yours even with a similar profile. It often depends on when you file compared with others that are within your demographic. Add to that, strenuous background checks of families and potential family baggage as well.
Gajini mhd won at 17th attempt. Don’t think too much. Give a try after reasonable time say 2ySGIndian wrote:Hi,
I have been following this forum for many years and thought of sharing our unsuccessful attempt to get PR.
Our profile:
Applied as family of 3, my husband is the main applicant (mid 30s), myself (early 30s), Son (3 years)
Race: Indian
Length of stay: Husband - 11 years in SG, Myself - 6 years, Son born in SG
Occupation: my husband is working as an engineering consultant in power/energy/electricity sector, I am working as a program manager (admin manager) for a semi-govt firm.
Education: Husband - Masters in Engineering from NUS, I have MBA from India, Son attending Sparkletots
Salary: Combined annual salary is around 160 K
My husband came to Singapore in 2009 for his Masters program and he stayed on here. I came here in 2014 after our marriage. This is our second PR application. First one was in 2015 and it was rejected in 3 months time. Second application was in 2020 July and it is rejected in exactly 6 months time.
We submitted two other relevant documents with our application - I have been volunteering with National Heritage Board as a Museum docent since 2015. And my husband speaks Mandarin in a reasonable way. He has HSK Level 4 certificate.
To be honest, we expected a rejection but we thought it is worth to try.
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