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PR Approval Probability 2021

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by anon00 » Mon, 30 May 2022 12:06 pm

ok 2 years.

but does it hurt to apply in the meantime?

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Mon, 30 May 2022 1:56 pm

anon00 wrote:
Mon, 30 May 2022 12:06 pm
ok 2 years.

but does it hurt to apply in the meantime?
You just had a rejection less than 5 months ago and hence request it to give it sometime and then apply. What is the rush?

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 30 May 2022 2:04 pm

anon00 wrote:
Mon, 30 May 2022 12:06 pm
ok 2 years.

but does it hurt to apply in the meantime?
Yes. unless you don't mind subsequent rejections as well. Generally speaking, if you jump the gun on the anecdotal 24 months, (we talking about data over a loooong period of time (I've been on this board since 2004/5) if you follow the ICA website is does list after 6 months you can apply. However it does NOT suggest that you will be successful and while you might be in neuro, unless your are a neuro surgeon it's not likely to happen (as you have already found out).

ICA requirements, as listed, are for the application to be accepted, not approved, as is all the government applications. They only list the requirement to apply. They never tell you what it would take to be approved before you apply as they don't need tailor-made applications. They get far too many already from the Subcontinent. The generally accepted timings are usually if on an EP the earliest would be after your EP was renewed the first time (either 24 or 36 months), If recently married and you are the spouse wanting PR (partner being already PR or SGC). To apply under the Family Ties Scheme again, after 24 months of marriage and producing a child (used to say and/or). Less than 24 months, better have a child produced as otherwise, ICA has tendency to think a marriage of convenience (hence the reason to have a child). This especially if one hasn't been in a long term relationship with the spouse prior to the marriage. Or prior to arriving on these shores. ICA and MOM hold their trump cards very close to their chests and the punishment is severe. Witness the guy who just got whacked for releasing information before they actually wanted to do it.

So wait 24 months from the date of your rejection before reapplying. You also need to remember, as you are not a BBC you have an uphill battle as the quota for Caucasians is very, very small on an annual basis.
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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by smoulder » Mon, 30 May 2022 2:15 pm

I applied successfully for my PR approximately a year after the previous rejection. However, each case is different. You are better off giving it a bit of time like SF and SMS have suggested.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Mon, 30 May 2022 2:30 pm

smoulder wrote:
Mon, 30 May 2022 2:15 pm
I applied successfully for my PR approximately a year after the previous rejection. However, each case is different. You are better off giving it a bit of time like SF and SMS have suggested.
we said 2 years as she is just married. So wanted to give her 2 years of marriage.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by smoulder » Mon, 30 May 2022 2:35 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Mon, 30 May 2022 2:30 pm
smoulder wrote:
Mon, 30 May 2022 2:15 pm
I applied successfully for my PR approximately a year after the previous rejection. However, each case is different. You are better off giving it a bit of time like SF and SMS have suggested.
we said 2 years as she is just married. So wanted to give her 2 years of marriage.
And that would be a key difference. I was already married for 4 years (also to an SC) when I applied
successfully.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by simple_guy » Mon, 30 May 2022 2:41 pm

As usual, always get useful suggestion here. Thanks to Mr. SMS, SF and team.
About 2 years of wait after rejection seems to be too long. For example...start job in singapore...wait for 2 years...getting rejection in about 2 years...so 4 years already gone...than wait for another 2 years for 2nd attempt...6 years gone if another rejection is in 2 years then 8 years and so on until unless very lucky.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by smoulder » Mon, 30 May 2022 2:48 pm

simple_guy wrote:
Mon, 30 May 2022 2:41 pm
As usual, always get useful suggestion here. Thanks to Mr. SMS, SF and team.
About 2 years of wait after rejection seems to be too long. For example...start job in singapore...wait for 2 years...getting rejection in about 2 years...so 4 years already gone...than wait for another 2 years for 2nd attempt...6 years gone if another rejection is in 2 years then 8 years and so on until unless very lucky.
Agreed. Frankly, depending on the profile, I would probably recommend people to keep an alternative plan in place. Namely, prepare to move to another country before it's too late. Usually applies to Indians who are not married to SCs or PRs.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Mon, 30 May 2022 2:56 pm

simple_guy wrote:
Mon, 30 May 2022 2:41 pm
As usual, always get useful suggestion here. Thanks to Mr. SMS, SF and team.
About 2 years of wait after rejection seems to be too long. For example...start job in singapore...wait for 2 years...getting rejection in about 2 years...so 4 years already gone...than wait for another 2 years for 2nd attempt...6 years gone if another rejection is in 2 years then 8 years and so on until unless very lucky.
Very very subjective and the 2 years time is to have something significant changed in your application. Example you had a case where there is a 50K pay rise or education completion, may be apply in 1 year? Just quoted a number for example.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by programmertrader » Mon, 30 May 2022 4:17 pm

Hello singaporeflyer / sundaymorningstaple,

Any chance at all with below background?

Age: 32
Race: Filipino
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Education: Bachelor's Degree in Computer Science
Job: Software Engineer (IT / Banking Industry)
Length of stay in Singapore: 5 and 1/2 years (same company)
Income Tax Assessment : Submitted for 5 years
Total Job Experience: 11+ years
Salary: 90K+
Pass: EP
PR Application: First time

Thank you!

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Mon, 30 May 2022 4:56 pm

programmertrader wrote:
Mon, 30 May 2022 4:17 pm
Hello singaporeflyer / sundaymorningstaple,

Any chance at all with below background?

Age: 32
Race: Filipino
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Education: Bachelor's Degree in Computer Science
Job: Software Engineer (IT / Banking Industry)
Length of stay in Singapore: 5 and 1/2 years (same company)
Income Tax Assessment : Submitted for 5 years
Total Job Experience: 11+ years
Salary: 90K+
Pass: EP
PR Application: First time

Thank you!
Go ahead and apply. Keep hopes low

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by justasking1 » Tue, 31 May 2022 12:36 am

singaporeflyer wrote:
Mon, 30 May 2022 9:26 am
justasking1 wrote:
Mon, 30 May 2022 1:26 am
Myself (main applicant on EP)
Race/Ethnicity: Filipino (Citizenship) / Chinese (Ethnicity)
Education: Bachelor Degree from NTU / NUS / SMU
Job: Product Manager / Tech Company
Work experience: 4 years
Salary: 115k + 25k bonus
Duration of stay in Singapore: 10 years (incl. education)
Gender: Male
Civil: Single
Note: Had 1 previous rejection in 2020
Reapply after 2 years.
If I apply in October, that should be okay right? What are your thoughts on my chances? I spoke to an agency today (SIP) and they mentioned that given the decrease in foreigners and the same quota, there should be less competition in getting the PR this time around as well.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by programmertrader » Tue, 31 May 2022 3:54 pm

Thank you for the feedback, singaporeflyer!

BTW, my fiancee is also living here in Singapore (planning to get married this year).
Will it be better to apply after getting married and apply as a couple, or wouldn't matter and better to apply individually?
She is also a Filipino (27 y.o., B.S. Business Administration, Supply Chain Planner/Analyst (FMCG industry for a MNC, SPass with 70K+ salary, 5 and 1/2 years stay in Singapore. She also has an Aunt/Uncle/cousin who are SPR, not sure if this family tie will even matter or not). Thanks again!


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Mon, 30 May 2022 4:56 pm
programmertrader wrote:
Mon, 30 May 2022 4:17 pm
Hello singaporeflyer / sundaymorningstaple,

Any chance at all with below background?

Age: 32
Race: Filipino
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Education: Bachelor's Degree in Computer Science
Job: Software Engineer (IT / Banking Industry)
Length of stay in Singapore: 5 and 1/2 years (same company)
Income Tax Assessment : Submitted for 5 years
Total Job Experience: 11+ years
Salary: 90K+
Pass: EP
PR Application: First time

Thank you!
Go ahead and apply. Keep hopes low

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Tue, 31 May 2022 4:30 pm

justasking1 wrote:
Tue, 31 May 2022 12:36 am
singaporeflyer wrote:
Mon, 30 May 2022 9:26 am
justasking1 wrote:
Mon, 30 May 2022 1:26 am
Myself (main applicant on EP)
Race/Ethnicity: Filipino (Citizenship) / Chinese (Ethnicity)
Education: Bachelor Degree from NTU / NUS / SMU
Job: Product Manager / Tech Company
Work experience: 4 years
Salary: 115k + 25k bonus
Duration of stay in Singapore: 10 years (incl. education)
Gender: Male
Civil: Single
Note: Had 1 previous rejection in 2020
Reapply after 2 years.
If I apply in October, that should be okay right? What are your thoughts on my chances? I spoke to an agency today (SIP) and they mentioned that given the decrease in foreigners and the same quota, there should be less competition in getting the PR this time around as well.
if last rejection is Oct 20, then apply in Oct 22. I can't comment on what consultancies say. May be they want more business?

My recommendation is for you to apply on your own without any consultancy. It is a simle application

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Tue, 31 May 2022 4:32 pm

programmertrader wrote:
Tue, 31 May 2022 3:54 pm
Thank you for the feedback, singaporeflyer!

BTW, my fiancee is also living here in Singapore (planning to get married this year).
Will it be better to apply after getting married and apply as a couple, or wouldn't matter and better to apply individually?
She is also a Filipino (27 y.o., B.S. Business Administration, Supply Chain Planner/Analyst (FMCG industry for a MNC, SPass with 70K+ salary, 5 and 1/2 years stay in Singapore. She also has an Aunt/Uncle/cousin who are SPR, not sure if this family tie will even matter or not). Thanks again!


singaporeflyer wrote:
Mon, 30 May 2022 4:56 pm
programmertrader wrote:
Mon, 30 May 2022 4:17 pm
Hello singaporeflyer / sundaymorningstaple,

Any chance at all with below background?

Age: 32
Race: Filipino
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Education: Bachelor's Degree in Computer Science
Job: Software Engineer (IT / Banking Industry)
Length of stay in Singapore: 5 and 1/2 years (same company)
Income Tax Assessment : Submitted for 5 years
Total Job Experience: 11+ years
Salary: 90K+
Pass: EP
PR Application: First time

Thank you!
Go ahead and apply. Keep hopes low
Uncle/Aunt being SPR/SC - NOT much value.
If father/mother/spouse SPR/SC - Has value and you can ask them to sponsor
If you need to apply as a couple after marriage it has to be after 2 years of marriage. So applying alone now or after 2 years of marriage as a couple is upto you.

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