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PR Approval Probability 2021

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 30 Mar 2022 11:07 pm

^^^^ THIS! :cool:
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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by Lisafuller » Thu, 31 Mar 2022 6:31 pm

smoulder wrote:
Wed, 30 Mar 2022 9:49 am
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Tue, 29 Mar 2022 3:31 pm
Having said that, the government here is upfront about race being a major factor in the immigration policy. As far as they can sustain it, they have outright said, that immigration will be used to maintain the current racial demographics in Singapore and those percentages have been published for 20 years at least. Fair? No. But it's their country and if you want to stay here you know what you are up against before you apply.
And therefore the suggestion to not put all eggs in this basket. It has to be both ways. If there is a high chance of not being approved because of the said policy, then potential applicants should also keep their options open and not waste precious time chasing after something that is nearly impossible to get.
Very well put, it’s an unfortunate fact for some, but it is what it is.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by Lisafuller » Thu, 31 Mar 2022 6:32 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Tue, 29 Mar 2022 3:31 pm
Having said that, the government here is upfront about race being a major factor in the immigration policy. As far as they can sustain it, they have outright said, that immigration will be used to maintain the current racial demographics in Singapore and those percentages have been published for 20 years at least. Fair? No. But it's their country and if you want to stay here you know what you are up against before you apply.
Not fair but it has worked for ages and we’ve all kept the peace so I guess it will continue.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by malcontent » Fri, 01 Apr 2022 12:16 am

Lisafuller wrote:
Thu, 31 Mar 2022 6:32 pm
Not fair but it has worked for ages and we’ve all kept the peace so I guess it will continue.
However, with the high number of Singaporean marriages to non-Singaporeans (many of which are non-CMI races), I think the traditional mindset around race will have to evolve. I think they may have added the double-barreled race for this reason. In a few generations you might even see the majority here are mixed race. I should think it a good thing.
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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 01 Apr 2022 1:41 am

malcontent wrote:
Fri, 01 Apr 2022 12:16 am
Lisafuller wrote:
Thu, 31 Mar 2022 6:32 pm
Not fair but it has worked for ages and we’ve all kept the peace so I guess it will continue.
However, with the high number of Singaporean marriages to non-Singaporeans (many of which are non-CMI races), I think the traditional mindset around race will have to evolve. I think they may have added the double-barreled race for this reason. In a few generations you might even see the majority here are mixed race. I should think it a good thing.
And you can bet LKY is turning over (more like spinning) in his grave. He was always against blending of the races. It wasn't until he could see his vision wasn't going to sustain itself as more and more were marrying outside of their race, that he accepted it was inevitable. Here's another of my anecdotal stories from my long history here. As most here know, I used to be a parttime actor with SBC/TCS/MediaCorp for 18 years from 1988 to 2006. I started the same year that the queen of Caldecott Hill started after she won Talentine that year. In fact the first series I acting in was with her. I subsequently acted with almost all the the best known local TV personalities. Anyway, In one series I did, I was a US businessman who was marrying a local Chinese girl. (this was early days when it was still SBC and under a Statutory Board. Everything had to be vetted by the Stat Board for content to ensure it only promoted what the government/PM wanted. In the original script we were to be married here in Singapore (but it was changed due to the PM's aversion to mixed marriages and the dilution of the Chinese Race) So they allowed the marriage as it was instrumental to the storyline, but instead of marrying in Singapore, the marriage took place on my series farm in the US. And we're living in the US but only visiting Singapore - she was still Singaporean but no longer was 'living' here so therefore the country/PM could care less about it. This is a true recounting and not a fabrication.

There was another series where I was shot and killed by Zoe Tay (she was a cop in a police drama. The series was originally set in Singapore, but the Stat Board made them change the name of the city to a different name because of the violence in the series, the Stat Board was afraid it might give regional viewers the wrong impression and then they might not come to visit and spend their money here. :lol: :lol: :cool:
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by malcontent » Fri, 01 Apr 2022 1:26 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Fri, 01 Apr 2022 1:41 am
malcontent wrote:
Fri, 01 Apr 2022 12:16 am
Lisafuller wrote:
Thu, 31 Mar 2022 6:32 pm
Not fair but it has worked for ages and we’ve all kept the peace so I guess it will continue.
However, with the high number of Singaporean marriages to non-Singaporeans (many of which are non-CMI races), I think the traditional mindset around race will have to evolve. I think they may have added the double-barreled race for this reason. In a few generations you might even see the majority here are mixed race. I should think it a good thing.
And you can bet LKY is turning over (more like spinning) in his grave. He was always against blending of the races. It wasn't until he could see his vision wasn't going to sustain itself as more and more were marrying outside of their race, that he accepted it was inevitable. Here's another of my anecdotal stories from my long history here. As most here know, I used to be a parttime actor with SBC/TCS/MediaCorp for 18 years from 1988 to 2006. I started the same year that the queen of Caldecott Hill started after she won Talentine that year. In fact the first series I acting in was with her. I subsequently acted with almost all the the best known local TV personalities. Anyway, In one series I did, I was a US businessman who was marrying a local Chinese girl. (this was early days when it was still SBC and under a Statutory Board. Everything had to be vetted by the Stat Board for content to ensure it only promoted what the government/PM wanted. In the original script we were to be married here in Singapore (but it was changed due to the PM's aversion to mixed marriages and the dilution of the Chinese Race) So they allowed the marriage as it was instrumental to the storyline, but instead of marrying in Singapore, the marriage took place on my series farm in the US. And we're living in the US but only visiting Singapore - she was still Singaporean but no longer was 'living' here so therefore the country/PM could care less about it. This is a true recounting and not a fabrication.

There was another series where I was shot and killed by Zoe Tay (she was a cop in a police drama. The series was originally set in Singapore, but the Stat Board made them change the name of the city to a different name because of the violence in the series, the Stat Board was afraid it might give regional viewers the wrong impression and then they might not come to visit and spend their money here. :lol: :lol: :cool:
I would say much of that mindset persists to today.

I was happy that at my daughter’s secondary school, despite being a SAP school (99.9% Chinese race students), she was able to fit in and felt like she belonged, despite being in the 0.1%. Although some had doubts whether she could cope with higher level of Chinese… she scored an A in the end.
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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by bagush » Sun, 03 Apr 2022 10:33 pm

Hello everyone,

I am a noobee to this forum and went through some of the posts.
Here is the story of my SG life.Seeking your advice to make strong application on first attempt given that ethnicity quota is not on my side. Planning to apply this year

Myself:
37 , Indian , Male, EP in SG
Education : Bachelors Engineering
Job : Software Engineer , AI/ML/Digitalization
Length of stay : 6+ years
Salary :~180 pa base + bonus in banking ( have gradually worked up starting from 70k pa since my first job in SG. currently my 3rd EP)
previously worked in AI projects for reputable non banking local companies before to turbo charge their digitalisation journey

Wife:
32 , Indian , Female,DP
Education : Masters
Job : Marketing
Length of stay : 6+ years
Salary : ~36k pa

Child :
Daughter 3 years old

Other info : regular participation in GRC events for local integration and some contributions . I can get letter from my community GRC head
regular monitory donations(IRAS recognised) to support local needy communities for past 3 years
wife's participation in some local events in SG
good investments in retirement accounts, govt bonds in SG + health insurance policies for family + child education plan policies/ endowment plans to be able to easily fund in future

any advice to better my chances would be really helpful

Thanks

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by therat » Mon, 04 Apr 2022 9:09 am

bagush wrote:
Sun, 03 Apr 2022 10:33 pm
Hello everyone,

I am a noobee to this forum and went through some of the posts.
Here is the story of my SG life.Seeking your advice to make strong application on first attempt given that ethnicity quota is not on my side. Planning to apply this year

Myself:
37 , Indian , Male, EP in SG
Education : Bachelors Engineering
Job : Software Engineer , AI/ML/Digitalization
Length of stay : 6+ years
Salary :~180 pa base + bonus in banking ( have gradually worked up starting from 70k pa since my first job in SG. currently my 3rd EP)
previously worked in AI projects for reputable non banking local companies before to turbo charge their digitalisation journey

Wife:
32 , Indian , Female,DP
Education : Masters
Job : Marketing
Length of stay : 6+ years
Salary : ~36k pa

Child :
Daughter 3 years old

Other info : regular participation in GRC events for local integration and some contributions . I can get letter from my community GRC head
regular monitory donations(IRAS recognised) to support local needy communities for past 3 years
wife's participation in some local events in SG
good investments in retirement accounts, govt bonds in SG + health insurance policies for family + child education plan policies/ endowment plans to be able to easily fund in future

any advice to better my chances would be really helpful

Thanks
Participation in GRC - No add point. As it has been heavily abuse by those who-want-to-get-PR.
Donation - No add point. If you want to use that to add point to your application. Donation is come from your willing to help other; not how it will help to get-PR
Investment - that's your own money and investment. No add point.
Health insurance - That's for your own family. No add point

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by guid » Mon, 04 Apr 2022 9:51 am

Hello HODL,

You cannot apply in the MyICA E-Services dashboard (https://eservices.ica.gov.sg/dashboard) or here
(Home => Reside, Study and Work in Singapore => Becoming a Permanent Resident =>Apply Online)?
HODL wrote:
Sat, 12 Mar 2022 8:59 am
HODL wrote:
Mon, 28 Feb 2022 7:15 pm
HODL wrote:
Thu, 01 Jul 2021 7:56 pm
anxiously waiting for result.

Me:
Age: 27
Sex: M
Race: Chinese
Citizenship: Msian
Stay in SG: 15 years
Education: Bachelor (kindergarten to diploma in sg)
Field of work: Engineer
Salary: 36k
Company: MNC
Pass: EP
upload button disappeared. couldn't apply new application. lets see :D
Add on new data point.
Pr approved! Worked 8months and started applying pr. As expected to be approved this couple days. I can now declare the "medishield life and careshield life health declaration" and moved on to 2nd page showing the ica ref number (u will need this ref number to book appointment date). But ICA site still show pending, and the status will change to approve tmr midnight or monday

To add more info (on how i know will approve) , my upload button disappeared AND i cant make new application (shows u an error saying you have pending pr application please wait for result) since the day the upload button disappeared to yesterday.

Sibeh happy. Goodluck everyone

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by oconnorandrew » Mon, 04 Apr 2022 7:50 pm

Dear all,

Aiming to apply for PR at end of this year and want to understand how best to improve profile.

1. British
2. Age 36
3. 11 years in singapore
4. British / Caucasian
5. Banking / Financial Sector
6. Will be 4th PR submission

Aiming to settle down here as this is home after living here for over a decade.

Really appreciate opinions.

Thanks in advance!


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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Mon, 04 Apr 2022 8:06 pm

oconnorandrew wrote:
Mon, 04 Apr 2022 7:50 pm
Dear all,

Aiming to apply for PR at end of this year and want to understand how best to improve profile.

1. British
2. Age 36
3. 11 years in singapore
4. British / Caucasian
5. Banking / Financial Sector
6. Will be 4th PR submission

Aiming to settle down here as this is home after living here for over a decade.

Really appreciate opinions.

Thanks in advance!


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Job designation, salary ?
When was last application?
What has changed since then ?

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by bagush » Mon, 04 Apr 2022 8:11 pm

Thanks
so can anyone please suggest , what can help to improve the chances if all these additional factors like social contribution , and investments do not make a difference

Thanks in advance!
therat wrote:
Mon, 04 Apr 2022 9:09 am
bagush wrote:
Sun, 03 Apr 2022 10:33 pm
Hello everyone,

I am a noobee to this forum and went through some of the posts.
Here is the story of my SG life.Seeking your advice to make strong application on first attempt given that ethnicity quota is not on my side. Planning to apply this year

Myself:
37 , Indian , Male, EP in SG
Education : Bachelors Engineering
Job : Software Engineer , AI/ML/Digitalization
Length of stay : 6+ years
Salary :~180 pa base + bonus in banking ( have gradually worked up starting from 70k pa since my first job in SG. currently my 3rd EP)
previously worked in AI projects for reputable non banking local companies before to turbo charge their digitalisation journey

Wife:
32 , Indian , Female,DP
Education : Masters
Job : Marketing
Length of stay : 6+ years
Salary : ~36k pa

Child :
Daughter 3 years old

Other info : regular participation in GRC events for local integration and some contributions . I can get letter from my community GRC head
regular monitory donations(IRAS recognised) to support local needy communities for past 3 years
wife's participation in some local events in SG
good investments in retirement accounts, govt bonds in SG + health insurance policies for family + child education plan policies/ endowment plans to be able to easily fund in future

any advice to better my chances would be really helpful

Thanks
Participation in GRC - No add point. As it has been heavily abuse by those who-want-to-get-PR.
Donation - No add point. If you want to use that to add point to your application. Donation is come from your willing to help other; not how it will help to get-PR
Investment - that's your own money and investment. No add point.
Health insurance - That's for your own family. No add point

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PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by oconnorandrew » Mon, 04 Apr 2022 8:54 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
oconnorandrew wrote:
Mon, 04 Apr 2022 7:50 pm
Dear all,

Aiming to apply for PR at end of this year and want to understand how best to improve profile.

1. Age 30s
2. 11 years in singapore
3. Caucasian
4. Banking / Financial Sector


Aiming to settle down here as this is home after living here for over a decade.

Really appreciate opinions.

Thanks in advance!


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Job designation, salary ?
When was last application?
What has changed since then ?
Apologies I should have included
Director (financial crime)
Salary 350 package
Change in Job and salary from last year submission in 2021.


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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Tue, 05 Apr 2022 12:12 am

oconnorandrew wrote:
Mon, 04 Apr 2022 8:54 pm
singaporeflyer wrote:
oconnorandrew wrote:
Mon, 04 Apr 2022 7:50 pm
Dear all,

Aiming to apply for PR at end of this year and want to understand how best to improve profile.

1. British
2. Age 36
3. 11 years in singapore
4. British / Caucasian
5. Banking / Financial Sector
6. Will be 4th PR submission

Aiming to settle down here as this is home after living here for over a decade.

Really appreciate opinions.

Thanks in advance!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Job designation, salary ?
When was last application?
What has changed since then ?
Apologies I should have included
Director (financial crime)
Salary 350 package
Change in Job and salary from last year submission in 2021.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
what it the salary difference between last application and now?
change in job scope / role ?

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by Indo_PR » Tue, 05 Apr 2022 12:55 am

hi guys just to add point of data

Pr approved within 4 months of applying.
Min S pass salary
Don't lose hope guys!

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