PR Approval Probability 2021

[guid]

Congratulations 20characters! Mabuhay.

I think I posted on an old thread our result. Just sharing our story, hoping to give back to this really helpful forum. Hopefully this helps someone in the future.

So after posting here April 2021 and receiving helpful advice plus additional advice to wait for 2 years more before applying, we still applied with the profile below in May 2021 We didn't wait because we already had the documents and felt like there was no harm trying. We were prepared to be rejected on our first try.

After 10 months, we got our PR application approved thanks to this forum for the Q&As. Really helpful!

Our pofile I think being mostly of Chinese descent helped overcome the nationality factor. Maybe having higher degrees also helped.

Hi, looking for some advice on when we should apply for PR due to possible big life changes which may increase or lower chances of approval.

Husband:
Age: 30
Race: full Chinese (with ancestry proof, Xiamen roots)
Nationality: Philippines
Religion: Catholic
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married (1.5 years)
Kids: 0 (planning to have 2)
Education: Bachelor's from top PH uni, Master's from top U.S. uni,
Working in Singapore: 2+ Years
Job: Consultant
Annual Salary: 160k+ basic/190k+ with bonus
Total Work Experience: 6 years
Current pass: 2nd EP (renewed Jan 2021)

Wife:
Age: 29
Race: mixed Chinese-Filipino (with ancestry proof, Xiamen roots)
Nationality: Philippines
Religion: Catholic
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married (1.5 years)
Kids: 0 (planning to have 2)
Education: Master's and Bachelor's from top PH uni (about to start higher degree in SG or Europe Fall 2021)
Length of stay/Working in Singapore: 1 year
Job: Research
Annual Salary: 30k+
Total Work Experience: 5 years
Current Pass: 2nd DP (renewed Jan 2021)

Wondering whether it's better to wait after we have kids or should we apply now since we really can't predict if we will have a kid soon? The wife has PCOS, though we're definitely trying to get pregnant. Not sure also if wife's future higher degree from SG or Europe will matter?

Thank you!

[radioburn]

Hi everyone, first time poster who's benefitted immensely from the discussions on this forum, so I thought I'd share my experience as well (as I didn't find too many examples in the forum for someone of a similar profile to myself, so this might be helpful to some future readers).

Details at the time of application

Main applicant: Male 39
Nationality: Malaysian (Indian descent)
Education: Adv.Dip from a UK top-3 uni, UK degree + Masters and pursuing a further UK post-grad course
Pass: EP
Length of stay/Working in Singapore: 3 Years 2 months
Income tax Assessment: 3 times at time of application
Employment/salary: Fintech Risk & Compliance, $140k + stocks & bonuses
Total Work Experience: 16 years

Spouse (also on application): Female, 37
Nationality: Malaysian (Indian descent)
Pass: DP
Education: Australian Degree, + Masters from a top UK uni whilst currently pursuing a second UK Masters program
Length of stay/Working in Singapore: 2 Years
Currently not drawing salary in Singapore due to restrictions with DP, but volunteers with community programs and interns for NGOs.
Married for 1.5 years, no kids.

We applied at end-May 2021, submit documents button disappeared mid Dec-21, and we received our notice of approval on the 1st week of Jan 2022.
Happy to have received our approval as it looks like they are harder to come by (but not impossible) these days. We didn't utilize any agencies and supporting/cover letters (though we did prepare them initially, we never submitted them as there isn't an avenue to submit them through the actual online application form, as previously pointed out on this forum).
Another question I had through this process was whether translation of documents was needed (as some of our documents were only in the Malay language). Some advised us to translate them anyway although Malay is the national language in SG; we chose not to and evidently it wasn't an issue.

[smoulder]

Hi everyone, first time poster who's benefitted immensely from the discussions on this forum, so I thought I'd share my experience as well (as I didn't find too many examples in the forum for someone of a similar profile to myself, so this might be helpful to some future readers).

Details at the time of application

Main applicant: Male 39
Nationality: Malaysian (Indian descent)
Education: Adv.Dip from a UK top-3 uni, UK degree + Masters and pursuing a further UK post-grad course
Pass: EP
Length of stay/Working in Singapore: 3 Years 2 months
Income tax Assessment: 3 times at time of application
Employment/salary: Fintech Risk & Compliance, $140k + stocks & bonuses
Total Work Experience: 16 years

Spouse (also on application): Female, 37
Nationality: Malaysian (Indian descent)
Pass: DP
Education: Australian Degree, + Masters from a top UK uni whilst currently pursuing a second UK Masters program
Length of stay/Working in Singapore: 2 Years
Currently not drawing salary in Singapore due to restrictions with DP, but volunteers with community programs and interns for NGOs.
Married for 1.5 years, no kids.

We applied at end-May 2021, submit documents button disappeared mid Dec-21, and we received our notice of approval on the 1st week of Jan 2022.
Happy to have received our approval as it looks like they are harder to come by (but not impossible) these days. We didn't utilize any agencies and supporting/cover letters (though we did prepare them initially, we never submitted them as there isn't an avenue to submit them through the actual online application form, as previously pointed out on this forum).
Another question I had through this process was whether translation of documents was needed (as some of our documents were only in the Malay language). Some advised us to translate them anyway although Malay is the national language in SG; we chose not to and evidently it wasn't an issue.

I'm guessing that nationality played a big role in catapulting you above the other applicants of the same race. No doubt you tick enough of other boxes as well.

[radioburn]

Hi everyone, first time poster who's benefitted immensely from the discussions on this forum, so I thought I'd share my experience as well (as I didn't find too many examples in the forum for someone of a similar profile to myself, so this might be helpful to some future readers).

Details at the time of application

Main applicant: Male 39
Nationality: Malaysian (Indian descent)
Education: Adv.Dip from a UK top-3 uni, UK degree + Masters and pursuing a further UK post-grad course
Pass: EP
Length of stay/Working in Singapore: 3 Years 2 months
Income tax Assessment: 3 times at time of application
Employment/salary: Fintech Risk & Compliance, $140k + stocks & bonuses
Total Work Experience: 16 years

Spouse (also on application): Female, 37
Nationality: Malaysian (Indian descent)
Pass: DP
Education: Australian Degree, + Masters from a top UK uni whilst currently pursuing a second UK Masters program
Length of stay/Working in Singapore: 2 Years
Currently not drawing salary in Singapore due to restrictions with DP, but volunteers with community programs and interns for NGOs.
Married for 1.5 years, no kids.

We applied at end-May 2021, submit documents button disappeared mid Dec-21, and we received our notice of approval on the 1st week of Jan 2022.
Happy to have received our approval as it looks like they are harder to come by (but not impossible) these days. We didn't utilize any agencies and supporting/cover letters (though we did prepare them initially, we never submitted them as there isn't an avenue to submit them through the actual online application form, as previously pointed out on this forum).
Another question I had through this process was whether translation of documents was needed (as some of our documents were only in the Malay language). Some advised us to translate them anyway although Malay is the national language in SG; we chose not to and evidently it wasn't an issue.

I'm guessing that nationality played a big role in catapulting you above the other applicants of the same race. No doubt you tick enough of other boxes as well.

Yeap, I figure the same as well - wasn't sure if our ethnicity would work or against us, so we tried to make sure we did everything else as right as possible (e.g. applying after 1 renewal, 3 tax windows, etc.)

[sundaymorningstaple]

Congratulations are in order I would think. I concur with both you and smoulder's thought processes. Looks like it paid off well and in pretty short order too.

[Sunjackal]

SundayMorningStaple - yes my husband had had alot of difficulties securing a job as the EP/SP quota limitations especially after Covid. He was running his own business in Australia which he can't do as a DP now adays. so we are hoping if we get PR this will remove the hurdle for him to find local employment.

Can he not move to a LTVP and so get a work permit?

[Singlove]

Hi

We applied for PR around 7 months back. My 5 year old son's passport had to be renewed two weeks back given it was about to expire. I have just received the new passport. Do I need to inform the ICA on this?

[sundaymorningstaple]

If he was included on the PR application, yes, you should inform ICA.

[Enthu1234]

Hi ,

I want to ask my chances of approval, if you guys don't mind, based on your experience in this forum.

Main applicant profile:

Age : 32
Profession: Senior Business Analyst
Work Pass: EP
Salary : 110K/annum
No of years in SG: 6 Years
Total working experience: 10 years
Ethnicity : Indian
Professional Certification: Agile SAFe certified

Spouse:
Age :37
Work Pass: EP
Profession : Principal Software Engineer
Salary: 110K/annum ( including bonus)
No of years in SG: 7 Years
Total working exp: 15 Years
Ethnicity : Indian

Children : 1 Girl , P1 now in local school


Changes w.r.t last application:
1) Main applicants Salary and Job role changed from Senior Automation Engineer to Senior Business Analyst.
2) Spouse salary increment

Thanks and Regards

[singaporeflyer]

Hi ,

I want to ask my chances of approval, if you guys don't mind, based on your experience in this forum.

Main applicant profile:

Age : 32
Profession: Senior Business Analyst
Work Pass: EP
Salary : 110K/annum
No of years in SG: 6 Years
Total working experience: 10 years
Ethnicity : Indian
Professional Certification: Agile SAFe certified

Spouse:
Age :37
Work Pass: EP
Profession : Principal Software Engineer
Salary: 110K/annum ( including bonus)
No of years in SG: 7 Years
Total working exp: 15 Years
Ethnicity : Indian

Children : 1 Girl , P1 now in local school


Changes w.r.t last application:
1) Main applicants Salary and Job role changed from Senior Automation Engineer to Senior Business Analyst.
2) Spouse salary increment

Thanks and Regards

Chance is still low

[Enthu1234]

Thanks for the assessment.

May we know the areas of improvement?

[smoulder]

Thanks for the assessment.

May we know the areas of improvement?

Both things you can do to improve your chances in Singapore are out of your control.

1. Change race
2. Change spouse to a local, preferably of the favored race.

If I were you, I'd be working on plan B which would be another country.

[korosensei]

Thanks for the assessment.

May we know the areas of improvement?

Both things you can do to improve your chances in Singapore are out of your control.

1. Change race
2. Change spouse to a local, preferably of the favored race.

If I were you, I'd be working on plan B which would be another country.

I concur with this. Ive been following this thread for quite few years now. And race and nationality is a big factor in getting PR here unlike other countries such as Australia, NZ and Canada which got point system.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Having said that, the government here is upfront about race being a major factor in the immigration policy. As far as they can sustain it, they have outright said, that immigration will be used to maintain the current racial demographics in Singapore and those percentages have been published for 20 years at least. Fair? No. But it's their country and if you want to stay here you know what you are up against before you apply.

[smoulder]

Having said that, the government here is upfront about race being a major factor in the immigration policy. As far as they can sustain it, they have outright said, that immigration will be used to maintain the current racial demographics in Singapore and those percentages have been published for 20 years at least. Fair? No. But it's their country and if you want to stay here you know what you are up against before you apply.

And therefore the suggestion to not put all eggs in this basket. It has to be both ways. If there is a high chance of not being approved because of the said policy, then potential applicants should also keep their options open and not waste precious time chasing after something that is nearly impossible to get.