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PR Approval Probability 2021

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by RYC » Fri, 18 Mar 2022 8:01 pm

Hi everyone, just wanted to check our chances of getting a PR.

We applied in October 2021, and this month (March 2022) we received a request for family CV - about to upload.

Main applicant: Female 36 at time of application (now 37), married no children
Race: Chinese
Nationality: Australian
Education: Bachelors degree from Australia
Length of stay/Working in Singapore: 3 Years (2.5 years at time of application)
Income tax Assessment: 2 times at time of application
Employment/salary: VP global bank $170k + bonuses
Total Work Experience: 16 years
Current Pass: EP

Husband (also on application) 40/41 YO, male
Race: caucuses/European
Nationality: Australian
Pass: DP
Length of stay/Working in Singapore: 3 Years
Currently not drawing salary in Singapore due to restrictions with DP.

What do you think our chances are? Does the family CV have a big impact on our outcome?

Please let me know your thoughts! Thank you

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Fri, 18 Mar 2022 8:25 pm

RYC wrote:
Fri, 18 Mar 2022 8:01 pm
Hi everyone, just wanted to check our chances of getting a PR.

We applied in October 2021, and this month (March 2022) we received a request for family CV - about to upload.

Main applicant: Female 36 at time of application (now 37), married no children
Race: Chinese
Nationality: Australian
Education: Bachelors degree from Australia
Length of stay/Working in Singapore: 3 Years (2.5 years at time of application)
Income tax Assessment: 2 times at time of application
Employment/salary: VP global bank $170k + bonuses
Total Work Experience: 16 years
Current Pass: EP

Husband (also on application) 40/41 YO, male
Race: caucuses/European
Nationality: Australian
Pass: DP
Length of stay/Working in Singapore: 3 Years
Currently not drawing salary in Singapore due to restrictions with DP.

What do you think our chances are? Does the family CV have a big impact on our outcome?

Please let me know your thoughts! Thank you
Low chance as short stay in SG and also quota available is very less

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 18 Mar 2022 10:30 pm

Ethnically, RYC has an advantage, being Chinese and drawing a good income as well. To answer your question, yes, the family CV could impact the outcome or it may not. Often is to check the backgrounds of applicants, e.g., where the parents are, their history, what kind of possible collateral baggage could they bring into Singapore, e.g., were your parents members of the CCP for instance. Not saying that it will make a difference but it could or it won't but they want to see. From our experience this is a good thing (it shows that they are at least interested enough to ask for more information) but on the flip side, depending on what turns up.......

However, the downside is the fact that the husband is on a DP so it shouldn't impact the quota as he is not the main applicant. But, the problem might be that Singapore is still, theoretically, a patriarchal society so there is also the possibility that they might still view it as the wife will generally follow the husband. If he continues to have difficulties in finding a job, be it due to credentials, or ethnicity or for that matter, age. Then he might want to move back to Oz. It's happened before. The male ego is a fragile thing, sad to say. Might not be a problem in this case but it has been known as an issue before. RYC how long have you and your husband been married? Are children on the radar scope? (my own were born when I was 37 and my wife was 38 - the second at 42/43) so while getting close it's getting near to the danger zone and from a possible perspective of the ICA they might look at the current application and say, well, we gave them three years to get settled in and the husband to find employment and the fact that the main applicant is a VP in the financial industry, for an International bank, it could very easily just parachute her into another location as there is nothing else holding them here as the husband does not work.

These are just random thoughts that have impacted others over the 25 years I was in HR and 17 years on this forum. It just as easily could be smooth sailing. I hope it is and wish you luck. SMS
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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by RYC » Sat, 19 Mar 2022 9:46 am

SundayMorningStaple - yes my husband had had alot of difficulties securing a job as the EP/SP quota limitations especially after Covid. He was running his own business in Australia which he can't do as a DP now adays. so we are hoping if we get PR this will remove the hurdle for him to find local employment.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by aj321 » Sat, 19 Mar 2022 5:11 pm

Hello All, Just wanted to share that our PR application got approved today with effective from March 16, 2022. However there is no option to download IPA letter online and ICA office says it will take 2 weeks for hard copy of IPA letter to reach the mentioned address. Can anyone let me know the validity of IPA and what are the docs generally asked for submission?

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by HODL » Sat, 19 Mar 2022 6:25 pm

aj321 wrote:
Sat, 19 Mar 2022 5:11 pm
Hello All, Just wanted to share that our PR application got approved today with effective from March 16, 2022. However there is no option to download IPA letter online and ICA office says it will take 2 weeks for hard copy of IPA letter to reach the mentioned address. Can anyone let me know the validity of IPA and what are the docs generally asked for submission?
Coming Tuesday u will receive the ipa letter.
Right now u can go declare cpf medishield thingy. And also can book appointment first.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by dukesun99 » Sat, 19 Mar 2022 7:57 pm

HODL wrote:
Sat, 19 Mar 2022 6:25 pm
aj321 wrote:
Sat, 19 Mar 2022 5:11 pm
Hello All, Just wanted to share that our PR application got approved today with effective from March 16, 2022. However there is no option to download IPA letter online and ICA office says it will take 2 weeks for hard copy of IPA letter to reach the mentioned address. Can anyone let me know the validity of IPA and what are the docs generally asked for submission?
Coming Tuesday u will receive the ipa letter.
Right now u can go declare cpf medishield thingy. And also can book appointment first.
Thanks, waiting for my approval letter also. What will happen if by appointment date the hardcopy is still not arrived?

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by HODL » Sat, 19 Mar 2022 8:22 pm

dukesun99 wrote:
Sat, 19 Mar 2022 7:57 pm
HODL wrote:
Sat, 19 Mar 2022 6:25 pm
aj321 wrote:
Sat, 19 Mar 2022 5:11 pm
Hello All, Just wanted to share that our PR application got approved today with effective from March 16, 2022. However there is no option to download IPA letter online and ICA office says it will take 2 weeks for hard copy of IPA letter to reach the mentioned address. Can anyone let me know the validity of IPA and what are the docs generally asked for submission?
Coming Tuesday u will receive the ipa letter.
Right now u can go declare cpf medishield thingy. And also can book appointment first.
Thanks, waiting for my approval letter also. What will happen if by appointment date the hardcopy is still not arrived?
Can keep changing date. 2 day before ur appt date if havent get, better to change.

My appt supposed to be end march but i refresh the appt page every 1-2hr until i can get a appointment date 8days earlier.

Pls note that u also need to let ur employer chop a form.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by dukesun99 » Sat, 19 Mar 2022 8:30 pm

HODL wrote:
Sat, 19 Mar 2022 8:22 pm
dukesun99 wrote:
Sat, 19 Mar 2022 7:57 pm
HODL wrote:
Sat, 19 Mar 2022 6:25 pm


Coming Tuesday u will receive the ipa letter.
Right now u can go declare cpf medishield thingy. And also can book appointment first.
Thanks, waiting for my approval letter also. What will happen if by appointment date the hardcopy is still not arrived?
Can keep changing date. 2 day before ur appt date if havent get, better to change.

My appt supposed to be end march but i refresh the appt page every 1-2hr until i can get a appointment date 8days earlier.

Pls note that u also need to let ur employer chop a form.
Thank you very much! May I know if you have a scanned empty EP152, so I could actually ask my HR to fill it even before I get the letter?

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by HODL » Sat, 19 Mar 2022 8:55 pm

dukesun99 wrote:
Sat, 19 Mar 2022 8:30 pm
HODL wrote:
Sat, 19 Mar 2022 8:22 pm
dukesun99 wrote:
Sat, 19 Mar 2022 7:57 pm

Thanks, waiting for my approval letter also. What will happen if by appointment date the hardcopy is still not arrived?
Can keep changing date. 2 day before ur appt date if havent get, better to change.

My appt supposed to be end march but i refresh the appt page every 1-2hr until i can get a appointment date 8days earlier.

Pls note that u also need to let ur employer chop a form.
Thank you very much! May I know if you have a scanned empty EP152, so I could actually ask my HR to fill it even before I get the letter?
I got no softcopy. But better not use the incorrect softcopy.. because my ep152 below got say is nov 2021 version

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by dukesun99 » Sat, 19 Mar 2022 8:58 pm

HODL wrote:
Sat, 19 Mar 2022 8:55 pm
dukesun99 wrote:
Sat, 19 Mar 2022 8:30 pm
HODL wrote:
Sat, 19 Mar 2022 8:22 pm


Can keep changing date. 2 day before ur appt date if havent get, better to change.

My appt supposed to be end march but i refresh the appt page every 1-2hr until i can get a appointment date 8days earlier.

Pls note that u also need to let ur employer chop a form.
Thank you very much! May I know if you have a scanned empty EP152, so I could actually ask my HR to fill it even before I get the letter?
I got no softcopy. But better not use the incorrect softcopy.. because my ep152 below got say is nov 2021 version
Thanks for this info!

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by streetrat123 » Sat, 19 Mar 2022 9:53 pm

Long time lurker now, here to post my story.

Nationality: Malaysian
Race: Chinese
Length of time in SG: 8 years 6 months (since January 2014 when I came for JC)
Highest education: Bachelor's in Social Sciences from NUS, major in Economics
Occupation: Research Assistant at NUS
Salary: S$ 3,500

Applied for PR as soon as I got my 6th month payslip from my job. It was my first full-time job after graduation.

"Submit documents" button missing after 8 months 1 week, and the approval message appeared 2 weeks later.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 19 Mar 2022 11:39 pm

Which, as we have said 1000x if we've said it once, it only shows one thing and one thing only. It shows that they do not need any additions documents. However, anecdotal evidence right here on this board, shows that it only means they don't want or need any more additional docs. it's about 50:50 approval:rejection. The only linkage is that they may be going to make a decisions shortly (but good or bad in unknown. In you case it was good. There was another on here last week that was rejected. so how?
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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by 20characters » Sun, 20 Mar 2022 11:27 pm

I think I posted on an old thread our result. Just sharing our story, hoping to give back to this really helpful forum. Hopefully this helps someone in the future.

So after posting here April 2021 and receiving helpful advice plus additional advice to wait for 2 years more before applying, we still applied with the profile below in May 2021 😅 We didn't wait because we already had the documents and felt like there was no harm trying. We were prepared to be rejected on our first try.

After 10 months, we got our PR application approved 🥳 thanks to this forum for the Q&As. Really helpful!

Our pofile ⬇️ I think being mostly of Chinese descent helped overcome the nationality factor. Maybe having higher degrees also helped.
20characters wrote:
Tue, 20 Apr 2021 2:56 pm
Hi, looking for some advice on when we should apply for PR due to possible big life changes which may increase or lower chances of approval.

Husband:
Age: 30
Race: full Chinese (with ancestry proof, Xiamen roots)
Nationality: Philippines
Religion: Catholic
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married (1.5 years)
Kids: 0 (planning to have 2)
Education: Bachelor's from top PH uni, Master's from top U.S. uni,
Working in Singapore: 2+ Years
Job: Consultant
Annual Salary: 160k+ basic/190k+ with bonus
Total Work Experience: 6 years
Current pass: 2nd EP (renewed Jan 2021)

Wife:
Age: 29
Race: mixed Chinese-Filipino (with ancestry proof, Xiamen roots)
Nationality: Philippines
Religion: Catholic
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married (1.5 years)
Kids: 0 (planning to have 2)
Education: Master's and Bachelor's from top PH uni (about to start higher degree in SG or Europe Fall 2021)
Length of stay/Working in Singapore: 1 year
Job: Research
Annual Salary: 30k+
Total Work Experience: 5 years
Current Pass: 2nd DP (renewed Jan 2021)

Wondering whether it's better to wait after we have kids or should we apply now since we really can't predict if we will have a kid soon? The wife has PCOS, though we're definitely trying to get pregnant. Not sure also if wife's future higher degree from SG or Europe will matter?

Thank you!

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by anesthetization » Fri, 25 Mar 2022 2:40 am

Wish me luck, I applied again with (hopefully) better profile. Not sure what is my chance now.

Race/Nationality: Vietnamese
Age: 31
Occ: Software engineer
Company: FAANG
Base: 170K+ annual
Last year taxable income: 224K+
Education: VN Bachelor Degree, Master degree in NUS.
Have been working Singapore for 8 years, 5 companies.

Applied with my whole family:
- Wife: Vietnamese - housewife - Public VN Uni degree
- 6 months baby girl

I am going to give (a few) last shots, really want to settle down here. But if it failed again, would consider migrating to other country before my kid go to school.

Anyway, thank you all, especially those the active members in PR threads. I learned a lot from your posts.

Have a nice day, everyone.

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