Relocating, travelling or planning to make Singapore home? Discuss the criterias, passes or visa that is required.
-
sundaymorningstaple
- Moderator
![Moderator Moderator]()
- Posts: 40556
- Joined: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 1:26 pm
-
Answers: 21
- Location: Retired on the Little Red Dot
-
Quote
-
0
login to like this post
Post
by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 09 Mar 2022 2:32 pm
EmilyLe wrote: ↑Wed, 09 Mar 2022 1:38 pm
SqQf wrote: ↑Sat, 28 Aug 2021 10:14 am
]
Note that this is not a successful outcome.
.
.
.
Time of wait for result = virtually 2 years (week here there give or take)
Hi, thanks for sharing. May I know how long have you been waiting for the result? 2 years and the application get rejected.
Emily, which words didn't you understand?

SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers
-
mystic_river
- Chatter
![Chatter Chatter]()
- Posts: 227
- Joined: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 2:20 pm
-
Answers: 1
-
Quote
-
1
login to like this post
Post
by mystic_river » Wed, 09 Mar 2022 2:49 pm
EmilyLe wrote: ↑Wed, 09 Mar 2022 2:38 pm
sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑Wed, 09 Mar 2022 2:32 pm
EmilyLe wrote: ↑Wed, 09 Mar 2022 1:38 pm
Hi, thanks for sharing. May I know how long have you been waiting for the result? 2 years and the application get rejected.
Emily, which words didn't you understand?
Thanks @sundaymorningstaple

. 2 years of waiting and the result is not successful. I thought that the longer time of waiting, the higher chance you may get, but it seems wrong.
Why did you think the longer the time it takes the higher the chance is of approval? Where did you read this/how did you form this hypothesis?
In fact we have been saying time and time again that the length of application process has absolutely no correlation to the outcome of the application.
-
sundaymorningstaple
- Moderator
![Moderator Moderator]()
- Posts: 40556
- Joined: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 1:26 pm
-
Answers: 21
- Location: Retired on the Little Red Dot
-
Quote
-
0
login to like this post
Post
by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 09 Mar 2022 10:59 pm
Hey, Mystic!
Like her oblivious reading skills, her researching of our archives is also wholly inadequate as you are correct. We been saying this till we are blue in the face and just about the time we think we've managed to teach people another pops up like "whack-a-mole".

SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers
-
HODL
- Member
![Member Member]()
- Posts: 25
- Joined: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 4:10 pm
-
Quote
-
0
login to like this post
Post
by HODL » Sat, 12 Mar 2022 8:59 am
HODL wrote: ↑Mon, 28 Feb 2022 7:15 pm
HODL wrote: ↑Thu, 01 Jul 2021 7:56 pm
anxiously waiting for result.
Me:
Age: 27
Sex: M
Race: Chinese
Citizenship: Msian
Stay in SG: 15 years
Education: Bachelor (kindergarten to diploma in sg)
Field of work: Engineer
Salary: 36k
Company: MNC
Pass: EP
upload button disappeared. couldn't apply new application. lets see
Add on new data point.
Pr approved! Worked 8months and started applying pr. As expected to be approved this couple days. I can now declare the "medishield life and careshield life health declaration" and moved on to 2nd page showing the ica ref number (u will need this ref number to book appointment date). But ICA site still show pending, and the status will change to approve tmr midnight or monday
To add more info (on how i know will approve) , my upload button disappeared AND i cant make new application (shows u an error saying you have pending pr application please wait for result) since the day the upload button disappeared to yesterday.
Sibeh happy. Goodluck everyone
-
sundaymorningstaple
- Moderator
![Moderator Moderator]()
- Posts: 40556
- Joined: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 1:26 pm
-
Answers: 21
- Location: Retired on the Little Red Dot
-
Quote
-
0
login to like this post
Post
by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 12 Mar 2022 11:44 am
Sadly, while good news for you, many other anecdotal reports of rejection. Your first paragraph and your second paragraph are not really related and have no bearing on each other. You are making an assumption that the first happened because of the 2nd. It more like it happened because of the progression but the 2nd paragraph is the same even for an eventual rejection notice.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers
-
dukesun99
- Newbie
![Newbie Newbie]()
- Posts: 8
- Joined: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 12:36 am
-
Quote
-
0
login to like this post
Post
by dukesun99 » Sun, 13 Mar 2022 11:22 am
sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑Sat, 12 Mar 2022 11:44 am
Sadly, while good news for you, many other anecdotal reports of rejection. Your first paragraph and your second paragraph are not really related and have no bearing on each other. You are making an assumption that the first happened because of the 2nd. It more like it happened because of the progression but the 2nd paragraph is the same even for an eventual rejection notice.
In another Chinese language expats forum, people report no rejection if the button disappeared and cannot reapply if they apply under themselves (i.e. not sponsored by others)... Maybe they got such information from there.
-
HODL
- Member
![Member Member]()
- Posts: 25
- Joined: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 4:10 pm
-
Quote
-
0
login to like this post
Post
by HODL » Sun, 13 Mar 2022 12:17 pm
dukesun99 wrote: ↑Sun, 13 Mar 2022 11:22 am
sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑Sat, 12 Mar 2022 11:44 am
Sadly, while good news for you, many other anecdotal reports of rejection. Your first paragraph and your second paragraph are not really related and have no bearing on each other. You are making an assumption that the first happened because of the 2nd. It more like it happened because of the progression but the 2nd paragraph is the same even for an eventual rejection notice.
In another Chinese language expats forum, people report no rejection if the button disappeared and cannot reapply if they apply under themselves (i.e. not sponsored by others)... Maybe they got such information from there.
Thats right. I have a friend approved 2 weeks ago also couldnt reapply.
All the posts i see here (maybe got miss out some) in this forum , they only reported that their upload button disappeared but they NEVER go try apply new application and see if they can proceed to the application page.
Upload button disappeared is just indicating that result will be out in 2-3weeks time and it is not a indication whether the application will approve or reject. Must do the apply pr test and see if u can get the pending error.
-
MOCHS
- Editor
![Editor Editor]()
- Posts: 1009
- Joined: Thu, 01 Aug 2019 8:43 pm
-
Answers: 3
-
Quote
-
0
login to like this post
Post
by MOCHS » Sun, 13 Mar 2022 12:52 pm
The mods & admins of this forum do not recommend trying to “break the system” with these “tests”. I won’t be surprised if they patch this bug in the future.
Don’t make lives difficult for other people please.
-
singaporeflyer
- Moderator
![Moderator Moderator]()
- Posts: 4329
- Joined: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 9:49 am
-
Answers: 3
-
Quote
-
1
login to like this post
Post
by singaporeflyer » Sun, 13 Mar 2022 1:04 pm
HODL wrote: ↑Sun, 13 Mar 2022 12:17 pm
dukesun99 wrote: ↑Sun, 13 Mar 2022 11:22 am
sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑Sat, 12 Mar 2022 11:44 am
Sadly, while good news for you, many other anecdotal reports of rejection. Your first paragraph and your second paragraph are not really related and have no bearing on each other. You are making an assumption that the first happened because of the 2nd. It more like it happened because of the progression but the 2nd paragraph is the same even for an eventual rejection notice.
In another Chinese language expats forum, people report no rejection if the button disappeared and cannot reapply if they apply under themselves (i.e. not sponsored by others)... Maybe they got such information from there.
Thats right. I have a friend approved 2 weeks ago also couldnt reapply.
All the posts i see here (maybe got miss out some) in this forum , they only reported that their upload button disappeared but they NEVER go try apply new application and see if they can proceed to the application page.
Upload button disappeared is just indicating that result will be out in 2-3weeks time and it is not a indication whether the application will approve or reject. Must do the apply pr test and see if u can get the pending error.
Don't play trial and error with Gov Systems. The last thing one would not want is PR approved, but withdrawn because of the violation of an improper use of the Gov system.
When someone has been waiting for 6 months - 1 year, what is an extra wait for 2 weeks going to make ?
-
korosensei
- Regular
![Regular Regular]()
- Posts: 124
- Joined: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:46 am
-
Quote
-
0
login to like this post
Post
by korosensei » Mon, 14 Mar 2022 9:37 am
HODL wrote: ↑Sat, 12 Mar 2022 8:59 am
HODL wrote: ↑Mon, 28 Feb 2022 7:15 pm
HODL wrote: ↑Thu, 01 Jul 2021 7:56 pm
anxiously waiting for result.
Me:
Age: 27
Sex: M
Race: Chinese
Citizenship: Msian
Stay in SG: 15 years
Education: Bachelor (kindergarten to diploma in sg)
Field of work: Engineer
Salary: 36k
Company: MNC
Pass: EP
upload button disappeared. couldn't apply new application. lets see
Add on new data point.
Pr approved! Worked 8months and started applying pr. As expected to be approved this couple days. I can now declare the "medishield life and careshield life health declaration" and moved on to 2nd page showing the ica ref number (u will need this ref number to book appointment date). But ICA site still show pending, and the status will change to approve tmr midnight or monday
To add more info (on how i know will approve) , my upload button disappeared AND i cant make new application (shows u an error saying you have pending pr application please wait for result) since the day the upload button disappeared to yesterday.
Sibeh happy. Goodluck everyone
Congrats! no doubt you will get it since you are from the favoured race.
-
hanginthere
- Newbie
![Newbie Newbie]()
- Posts: 1
- Joined: Mon, 14 Mar 2022 2:10 pm
-
Quote
-
0
login to like this post
Post
by hanginthere » Mon, 14 Mar 2022 2:37 pm
Hey everyone,
My first PR application was rejected recently and I wanted to share my experience here in case it's of use to anyone. Have been following this forum for a long time so thought of contributing to this community.
Me:
Age: 35
Sex: M
Citizenship: Indian
Married/kids: No
Stay in SG: 5 years
Education: Engineering
Field of work: Product Management/Strategy in AI/Big Data companies (experience in both VC funded Singapore startups and MNCs)
Pass: EP
The PR result came in 4 months + 2 weeks. While I'm a bit sad that it's a rejection, I'm glad I didn't have to wait as long as some applicants have to. I knew my chances of approval were almost non-existent, given the ethnicity quota, small number of new PRs approved per year etc. The only glimmer of hope was from the fact that I work in an industry that seems to be a priority for the government.
Good luck with your applications.
Cheers!
Last edited by
hanginthere on Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:21 am, edited 1 time in total.
-
insomnia360
- Newbie
![Newbie Newbie]()
- Posts: 9
- Joined: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 3:30 pm
-
Quote
-
0
login to like this post
Post
by insomnia360 » Fri, 18 Mar 2022 4:05 pm
insomnia360 wrote: ↑Sat, 29 Jan 2022 3:43 pm
Hi guys, I've read through a number of pages here, and felt that I might have made mistakes in applying for my wife PR too soon.
I'm not sure if this has bearing but here's my profile
Age: 33
Race: Local Indian
Nationality: Singaporean
Gender: Male
Profession: Accountant
Salary: (current) 96K PA
Wife
Age: 29
Race: Indian
Nationality: India
Profession: HomeMaker
Married since: Feb 2020 in Singapore
Current Status: LTVP since June 2020
We just started trying for kids. Why I said I made a mistake was because I applied PR for her circa July 2021, when some posts here recommended to wait 2 years or more at least.. whereas it's only been a year and a half roughly when I applied. Also my salary when I applied was way lower, I was at a small singapore startup (42k p.a) with equity options, but since moved on from there.
Hi Kind Folks!
Just checking in to gather your thoughts. My wife wants to visit her family in her country for a couple of weeks, which she hasn't since she came in Feb 2020 (didn't go even when her dad passed).
I intended to book a flight but then a senior citizen 'seemingly experienced' in this matters shared that it might be frowned upon by ICA for a person awaiting for PR, on reasons that it doesn't show, er, loyalty or something along those lines. That really doesn't sound plausible to me, a person visiting family does not mean they do not intend to set down roots.
I guess just in case i'm clueless in this matters, i'm asking if there's an inkling of truth to such a thing?
-
smoulder
- Editor
![Editor Editor]()
- Posts: 1442
- Joined: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 11:05 pm
-
Quote
-
0
login to like this post
Post
by smoulder » Fri, 18 Mar 2022 6:45 pm
insomnia360 wrote: ↑Fri, 18 Mar 2022 4:05 pm
insomnia360 wrote: ↑Sat, 29 Jan 2022 3:43 pm
Hi guys, I've read through a number of pages here, and felt that I might have made mistakes in applying for my wife PR too soon.
I'm not sure if this has bearing but here's my profile
Age: 33
Race: Local Indian
Nationality: Singaporean
Gender: Male
Profession: Accountant
Salary: (current) 96K PA
Wife
Age: 29
Race: Indian
Nationality: India
Profession: HomeMaker
Married since: Feb 2020 in Singapore
Current Status: LTVP since June 2020
We just started trying for kids. Why I said I made a mistake was because I applied PR for her circa July 2021, when some posts here recommended to wait 2 years or more at least.. whereas it's only been a year and a half roughly when I applied. Also my salary when I applied was way lower, I was at a small singapore startup (42k p.a) with equity options, but since moved on from there.
Hi Kind Folks!
Just checking in to gather your thoughts. My wife wants to visit her family in her country for a couple of weeks, which she hasn't since she came in Feb 2020 (didn't go even when her dad passed).
I intended to book a flight but then a senior citizen 'seemingly experienced' in this matters shared that it might be frowned upon by ICA for a person awaiting for PR, on reasons that it doesn't show, er, loyalty or something along those lines. That really doesn't sound plausible to me, a person visiting family does not mean they do not intend to set down roots.
I guess just in case i'm clueless in this matters, i'm asking if there's an inkling of truth to such a thing?
I don't think traveling out of Singapore signals not being loyal. Of course, no one knows for sure exactly what criteria they look at. I suppose that as long as they don't see people traveling out frequently and staying out of the country for long durations, it should be OK.
By the way, did you update ICA on your new salary? I suggest that you do that. And how long have you been married?
-
singaporeflyer
- Moderator
![Moderator Moderator]()
- Posts: 4329
- Joined: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 9:49 am
-
Answers: 3
-
Quote
-
0
login to like this post
Post
by singaporeflyer » Fri, 18 Mar 2022 6:46 pm
insomnia360 wrote: ↑Fri, 18 Mar 2022 4:05 pm
insomnia360 wrote: ↑Sat, 29 Jan 2022 3:43 pm
Hi guys, I've read through a number of pages here, and felt that I might have made mistakes in applying for my wife PR too soon.
I'm not sure if this has bearing but here's my profile
Age: 33
Race: Local Indian
Nationality: Singaporean
Gender: Male
Profession: Accountant
Salary: (current) 96K PA
Wife
Age: 29
Race: Indian
Nationality: India
Profession: HomeMaker
Married since: Feb 2020 in Singapore
Current Status: LTVP since June 2020
We just started trying for kids. Why I said I made a mistake was because I applied PR for her circa July 2021, when some posts here recommended to wait 2 years or more at least.. whereas it's only been a year and a half roughly when I applied. Also my salary when I applied was way lower, I was at a small singapore startup (42k p.a) with equity options, but since moved on from there.
Hi Kind Folks!
Just checking in to gather your thoughts. My wife wants to visit her family in her country for a couple of weeks, which she hasn't since she came in Feb 2020 (didn't go even when her dad passed).
I intended to book a flight but then a senior citizen 'seemingly experienced' in this matters shared that it might be frowned upon by ICA for a person awaiting for PR, on reasons that it doesn't show, er, loyalty or something along those lines. That really doesn't sound plausible to me, a person visiting family does not mean they do not intend to set down roots.
I guess just in case i'm clueless in this matters, i'm asking if there's an inkling of truth to such a thing?
Couple of weeks is surely not an issue.
-
insomnia360
- Newbie
![Newbie Newbie]()
- Posts: 9
- Joined: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 3:30 pm
-
Quote
-
0
login to like this post
Post
by insomnia360 » Fri, 18 Mar 2022 7:33 pm
smoulder wrote: ↑Fri, 18 Mar 2022 6:45 pm
insomnia360 wrote: ↑Fri, 18 Mar 2022 4:05 pm
Hi Kind Folks!
Just checking in to gather your thoughts. My wife wants to visit her family in her country for a couple of weeks, which she hasn't since she came in Feb 2020 (didn't go even when her dad passed).
I intended to book a flight but then a senior citizen 'seemingly experienced' in this matters shared that it might be frowned upon by ICA for a person awaiting for PR, on reasons that it doesn't show, er, loyalty or something along those lines. That really doesn't sound plausible to me, a person visiting family does not mean they do not intend to set down roots.
I guess just in case i'm clueless in this matters, i'm asking if there's an inkling of truth to such a thing?
I don't think traveling out of Singapore signals not being loyal. Of course, no one knows for sure exactly what criteria they look at. I suppose that as long as they don't see people traveling out frequently and staying out of the country for long durations, it should be OK.
By the way, did you update ICA on your new salary? I suggest that you do that. And how long have you been married?
Yes I did update them! At the point of application it was 1.5 years, like I highlighted I realised I should have waited.
Thank you and singaporeflyer for sharing!
-
-
PR approval probability 2021
Hi everyone,
Would love to get your thoughts on my PR application chances.
Submitted Jan 2021 with the family application, currently pending.
Year...
- 0 Replies
- 9941 Views
-
Last post by tpa
Tue, 01 Jun 2021 2:14 pm
-
-
Probability to get PR Approved for 2020-2021
Replies: 69
First post
Hi All,
I seek everyone's knowledge about probability of getting our PR for 2021-2022.
Details:
Myself - Employment Pass; 34 years; Annual Salary -...
Last post
Hi question,
I have a pending PR application (ep + dp family) sitting for approx 10 months. The time has come to renew my EP with my employer...
- 69 Replies
- 54470 Views
-
Last post by singaporeflyer
Sun, 10 Apr 2022 12:55 pm
-
-
EP Processing Time Feb 2021 / Mar 2021
Replies: 152
First post
Hi all,
Was wondering what experience people have had with applying for an EP in Feb/Mar this year.
I'm almost 2 weeks into the wait so fingers...
Last post
Hello everyone,
My EP was finally approved. Just thought of letting you all know.
Applied on 12th March
Approved on 17th June.
It took a total of...
- 152 Replies
- 89787 Views
-
Last post by Lisafuller
Tue, 31 May 2022 3:10 am
-
-
SG Citizenship - probability for approval
Replies: 9
First post
Hi,
I would like to apply for SG citizenship and I would like to know the forum opinion on my probability of getting approved given my single status...
Last post
Yes, the government doesn’t forget so that will not be taken kindly. Best of luck.
- 9 Replies
- 9839 Views
-
Last post by Lisafuller
Mon, 17 May 2021 11:45 am
-
-
SC application approval probability
Replies: 12
First post
Hi All,
I am wondering what is my approval probability if I am applying for SC
Profile
Age 36
Born in Indonesia, Chinese
Been in Singapore since...
Last post
Hello SF, thanks for the advise.
where should i update? via Myica portal? but there is not an correct drop down for Pass change (EP to PR).
or...
- 12 Replies
- 9405 Views
-
Last post by mshan82
Wed, 09 Mar 2022 11:25 am
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests