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PR Approval Probability 2021

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by insomnia360 » Sun, 30 Jan 2022 5:23 pm

Lisafuller wrote:
Sun, 30 Jan 2022 1:06 am
insomnia360 wrote:
Sat, 29 Jan 2022 11:04 pm
Lisafuller wrote:
Sat, 29 Jan 2022 10:47 pm
Congrats on the raise, it’s definitely significant enough for you to need to update the ICA. Income is a funny thing in the immigration process- make too little and the government will see you as a liability, but make too much and the government will see you as a loose cannon who may leave anytime.
I'm Singaporean, I'm not going to leave. :wink:
I know, and hope your wife gets granted PR. Was just commenting on the way income is viewed in the immigration process, not immediately related to you. Best of luck to her.
I hope so too :D Thank you!

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by AussieCh » Sun, 30 Jan 2022 5:43 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Sun, 30 Jan 2022 5:03 pm
AussieCh wrote:
Sun, 30 Jan 2022 12:55 pm
Happy Chinese New Year to everyone. Good luck in the year of Tiger.

My application (whole family) just got "APPR0VED" on the ICA website today. ICA working on Saturday and Sunday, interesting, maybe they want to clear workload before going on a peaceful big Chinese New Year holiday. And my kid will just turn to 21 years of age tomorrow, I guess they need get it approved before that. or just coincident? Thanks ICA.

Big thanks to SF, always genuine and professional feedbacks to each case. And he is 99.9% correct. Also, reading SMS's message was always amusing, sometimes could be cruel to someone but really to the point. Thanks for sharing your experience, it certainly makes this forum very interesting.

By the way, I was born in 1969. So, age maybe a downside, but certainly not impossible. :D

Congrats, the application would have been approved few days ago, you see the update a few days later after the System is automatically updated :) ICA surely won't work on Sunday for this.
Thanks SF. You must be right; no office worker should work in weekends. I saw the upload button disappeared 7 days ago (last weekend), surely, they have some sort of automation system. To help this forum data, during the application, all my family members don’t have any Singapore entry pass other than visa free tourist entry right.
=D> :-k

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by smoulder » Sun, 30 Jan 2022 6:45 pm

AussieCh wrote:
Sun, 30 Jan 2022 5:43 pm
singaporeflyer wrote:
Sun, 30 Jan 2022 5:03 pm
AussieCh wrote:
Sun, 30 Jan 2022 12:55 pm
Happy Chinese New Year to everyone. Good luck in the year of Tiger.

My application (whole family) just got "APPR0VED" on the ICA website today. ICA working on Saturday and Sunday, interesting, maybe they want to clear workload before going on a peaceful big Chinese New Year holiday. And my kid will just turn to 21 years of age tomorrow, I guess they need get it approved before that. or just coincident? Thanks ICA.

Big thanks to SF, always genuine and professional feedbacks to each case. And he is 99.9% correct. Also, reading SMS's message was always amusing, sometimes could be cruel to someone but really to the point. Thanks for sharing your experience, it certainly makes this forum very interesting.

By the way, I was born in 1969. So, age maybe a downside, but certainly not impossible. :D

Congrats, the application would have been approved few days ago, you see the update a few days later after the System is automatically updated :) ICA surely won't work on Sunday for this.
Thanks SF. You must be right; no office worker should work in weekends. I saw the upload button disappeared 7 days ago (last weekend), surely, they have some sort of automation system. To help this forum data, during the application, all my family members don’t have any Singapore entry pass other than visa free tourist entry right.
I think in your case, the key factor is your ethnicity. Despite age, and despite the fact that your daughters are in Australia.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 30 Jan 2022 7:34 pm

kt1987 wrote:
Sat, 29 Jan 2022 10:45 pm
Thinking of applying for PR in a few months, looking forward to your thoughts:

Profile
Race: Indian
Nationality: Indian
Gender: Male
Age: 35 years old
Single
Years in Singapore: 9+ years
Education: Bachelors of marketing from India
Current salary: $20k per month excluding bonus, stocks, everything else (started at 4k per month 9 years ago and gradually worked my way up to 20k today)
Job: Tech product management/marketing - Changed jobs only once since I moved to SG which was last month

Do recommendation letters help? because I have the potential to obtain some pretty reputable recommendation letters which I've never done before. These would be equal to CEO & CFO of home grown companies and unicorns/MNC's that I've worked with in the past and offered to to write once I apply again.

first applied in March 2020 - rejected in 5 months (when salary was about 8.5k)
second application in Jan 2021 - rejected in 5 months (when salary was about 11k)

thinking of applying in June 2022 (6 months after my new job/20k salary)
2 applications in two years and then planning a 3rd in less than 24 months? For all intents and purposes if you failed at 8.5 & 11K. It's not going to happen I don't think. Marry a local & have a male baby or wait at least 2 years from the last rejection before making a new application but making a Plan B sounds like your best bet. If recommendation letters were any help, they would list them as requested documents with the application. Even letters from an MP are of no use.

Frankly applying so soon is what got you rejected the first time almost a certainty. The 2nd time is you applied again, too soon. You are giving ICA the impression you are only in it to buy property (The normal reason for trying to rush the system). While this may or may not be the case, it certainly tends to raise eyebrows at ICA to the point were it almost looks like a rulebook call. (We have absolutely no idea what is in that rulebook - ICA officers have security clearances like the Military does for Top Secret clearances.
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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by aj321 » Mon, 31 Jan 2022 1:07 am

Hi All, We applied for PR under SC/Family Lane in Nov 2020. We are awaiting the response yet. Any idea how long does the approval take. We bought HDB flat in August 2021 as well and if any positive results come before end of Feb 2022 then atleast we can get some more grant from HDB as we will get upgraded from singles grant.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Mon, 31 Jan 2022 8:46 am

aj321 wrote:
Mon, 31 Jan 2022 1:07 am
Hi All, We applied for PR under SC/Family Lane in Nov 2020. We are awaiting the response yet. Any idea how long does the approval take. We bought HDB flat in August 2021 as well and if any positive results come before end of Feb 2022 then atleast we can get some more grant from HDB as we will get upgraded from singles grant.
May take 12 to 18 months. Who were the applicants, who sponsored etc ?

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by sohappysg » Mon, 31 Jan 2022 9:04 am

Hi,
We live in Singapore 5 years, married, both European 32 years old. Both of us earn 21k base salary, I have a lot of bonus above base salary but I understand that ICA takes into account only base salary?
I am pregnant now with a baby boy. We want to apply for PR now for first time and then add him to application once he is born. Is it doable or should we wait for him to be born?
What are the chances of getting PR for us in your opinion?
Thanks

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Mon, 31 Jan 2022 9:20 am

sohappysg wrote:
Mon, 31 Jan 2022 9:04 am
Hi,
We live in Singapore 5 years, married, both European 32 years old. Both of us earn 21k base salary, I have a lot of bonus above base salary but I understand that ICA takes into account only base salary?
I am pregnant now with a baby boy. We want to apply for PR now for first time and then add him to application once he is born. Is it doable or should we wait for him to be born?
What are the chances of getting PR for us in your opinion?
Thanks
If you apply now and if it is approved, you have to put in a fresh application for him with you being the sponsor.

Chances of getting PR - slim mainly because of quota. Also you never told us about what both of you are working as, age, education, origin,21K base is each person?

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by AussieCh » Mon, 31 Jan 2022 10:13 am

smoulder wrote:
Sun, 30 Jan 2022 6:45 pm

I think in your case, the key factor is your ethnicity. Despite age, and despite the fact that your daughters are in Australia.
You might be right. But I guess no one knows how ICA decide on one factor over the other, and how they adjust on dynamics of change of situations. Being Chinese might have 3 times higher probability than others if other factors are equal, while being 50 plus might have 5 times less probability than those age in 30s do. By the way, I was rejected about 4 years ago despite the similar personal situation and younger. It is all ICA’s top secret.
=D> :-k

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by laxr » Mon, 31 Jan 2022 11:01 am

Hello ,

Appreciate if there can be some thought shared on PR approval chances in 2022.

Last time applied PR was in 2019 and got rejection

Self:
Age-35
nationality - Indian
Tenure in SG - 5 years
Annual Salary - $450K ($300K base salary + $150K bonus + equities)
Profession - Cloud Computing Architect
Total Experience - 14 years
Also currently pursuing a Master's Degree from NUS

Spouse
nationality - Indian
Age-35
Bachelor's in Fashion Technology with 7 years experience but currently homemaker.
Recently finished Digital Marketing Post Graduate Program

Child
nationality - Indian
Age-4 years old daughter born in SG

My mother is staying with me on LTVP as well.
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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Mon, 31 Jan 2022 11:05 am

laxr wrote:
Mon, 31 Jan 2022 11:01 am
Hello ,

Appreciate if there can be some thought shared on PR approval chances in 2022.

Last time applied PR was in 2019 and got rejection

Self:
Age-35
nationality - Indian
Tenure in SG - 5 years
Annual Salary - $450K ($300K base salary + $150K bonus + equities)
Profession - Cloud Computing Architect
Total Experience - 14 years
Also currently pursuing a Master's Degree from NUS

Spouse
nationality - Indian
Age-35
Bachelor's in Fashion Technology with 7 years experience but currently homemaker.
Recently finished Digital Marketing Post Graduate Program

Child
nationality - Indian
Age-4 years old daughter born in SG

My mother is staying with me on LTVP as well.
Apply after you finish your masters.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by jgreen22 » Mon, 31 Jan 2022 1:28 pm

the observer wrote:
Sat, 29 Jan 2022 10:45 am
Lisafuller wrote:
Sat, 29 Jan 2022 1:01 am
jgreen22 wrote:
Fri, 28 Jan 2022 4:40 pm
I just hit my 10 month mark in SG. I know my chance is pretty slim. Is it even worth trying to apply for pr? Like a 5% chance?

Current Profile:
• Age: 31
• Race: Chinese
• Gender: Male
• Marital Status: Single
• Education: Top university in the US
• Industry: Big tech
• Position: Software engineer
• Pass: Employment Pass
• Salary: 20k monthly

My main reason for applying so early is because I am thinking of starting a company with some friends here in sg. Having a pr makes it alot easier and I feel alot more stable in case things don't go well.
Like SF says chances are very slim now. Your best bet would be to wait at least a year or two before applying. At least then you would have had a substantial duration of stay in SG which will look much better than a high income expat who could take flight anytime.
Slim now, but better chance than other ethnic groups later on.

With TFR at 0.9 for the Chinese, there’s not many cards left on the table.
What does TFR at .09 for the Chinese mean? How would that affect my chances? Sorry, I am pretty new to the forum.
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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by jgreen22 » Mon, 31 Jan 2022 1:31 pm

Lisafuller wrote:
Sat, 29 Jan 2022 1:01 am
jgreen22 wrote:
Fri, 28 Jan 2022 4:40 pm
I just hit my 6 month mark in SG. I know my chance is pretty slim. Is it even worth trying to apply for pr? Like a 5% chance?

Current Profile:
• Age: 31
• Race: Chinese
• Gender: Male
• Marital Status: Single
• Education: Top university in the US
• Industry: Big tech
• Position: Software engineer
• Pass: Employment Pass
• Salary: 20k monthly

My main reason for applying so early is because I am thinking of starting a company with some friends here in sg. Having a pr makes it alot easier and I feel alot more stable in case things don't go well.
Like SF says chances are very slim now. Your best bet would be to wait at least a year or two before applying. At least then you would have had a substantial duration of stay in SG which will look much better than a high income expat who could take flight anytime.
Other than staying here longer, anything else I can do to improve my chances. There is a startup incubator program that I am thinking of applying here in sg. They will help me get a entre-pass visa. Not sure if that will help or hurt my pr chance.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Mon, 31 Jan 2022 1:49 pm

jgreen22 wrote:
Mon, 31 Jan 2022 1:28 pm
the observer wrote:
Sat, 29 Jan 2022 10:45 am
Lisafuller wrote:
Sat, 29 Jan 2022 1:01 am


Like SF says chances are very slim now. Your best bet would be to wait at least a year or two before applying. At least then you would have had a substantial duration of stay in SG which will look much better than a high income expat who could take flight anytime.
Slim now, but better chance than other ethnic groups later on.

With TFR at 0.9 for the Chinese, there’s not many cards left on the table.
What does TFR at .09 for the Chinese mean? How would that affect my chances? Sorry, I am pretty new to the forum.
You must google

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by Singlove » Wed, 02 Feb 2022 3:04 pm

Hi,

Would love to understand the chances of my PR in 2022.

Self:
Age-37
Nationality - Indian
5 years in SG
Annual Salary - 400K SGD Fixed + Bonus+ Equity
Industry- Technology
Managing Director and Heading the local team in the region
Total Experience - 15 years
Education- MBA

Spouse
Age-37
Nationality- Indian
Total Experience- 13 years
Annual Salary- 180K SGD + Bonus

Son
Nationality- Indian
Age- 5 years going to an International School

Local Investments in government securities and bonds. No house investment yet.

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