PR Approval Probability 2021

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 07 Nov 2021 6:38 pm

^^^Double whammy.
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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 07 Nov 2021 6:52 pm

hangmann wrote:
Sun, 07 Nov 2021 3:06 pm
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Sun, 07 Nov 2021 2:47 am
hangmann wrote:
Sun, 07 Nov 2021 12:36 am


Is this essentially because Vietnamese are put in the "Other" race category which only comprises a few percent of total quota? Seems wrong that a person who already spent 10 years (their formative teenage years especially) here would get rejected.
Singapore still harbours a deep mistrust of Communist VN. While they do a good trade with them, and don't mind S pass holders, they have not been easy to get Permanent Residency here. There are some, but most of those where formerly from S.VN and not the North. Or were married with Singaporean men. I personally had a lot of contact with them both during the VN War (AMVET) and from 1988~1991 working under UNHCR resettling VN Boat People (Refugees). I'm well aware of their feeling to the Vietnamese. So there is other factors which you will not find in print with their regard.
Perhaps it would be a general mistrust of the Vietnamese? My PR application was denied too but my family is actually from the South of Vietnam, fought alongside the US military against the communist regime, and eventually moved to the US in 1975.

Anyway I applied, and I also know some other Vietnamese Americans who applied within the last year with pretty stellar records (one with 1M+/year income), who got denied this year. It made me just assume that it's all because of the small quota of the "Other" category.
I actually wanted to say exactly that with regard to general mistrust in my earlier answer, but tempered it because of my own involvement during the war. The three and a half years I spent working under the auspices of the UNHCR were spent interviewing them in the 1st Asylum Camps and determining who were actually persecuted refugees and who were economic migrants (not considered refugees for resettlement - most of them were from NVN) but that is a different category altogether. During those 3.5 years I saw how they treated the refugees in the old Hawkins Road Camp out in Sembawang. I knew about the leaky boats that were given some fuel and some food and towed by the SGNavy back out to Int'l waters rather than allowing them to land. I worked in all the 1st asylum camps throughout ASEAN (Palawan, Cambodian/Thai border, P. Bidong, Msia & P. Galang Indo. across the harbour behind P. Batam and P. Bintan. You are right. They didn't care and didn't want them on Singapore land, full stop. It would seem two generations later, it's much the same.
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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by oconnorandrew » Sun, 07 Nov 2021 9:09 pm

Hi everyone,

Appreciate your help in this forum. I would like to understand my probability / how to improve profile in getting PR:

Age: 35, Male
Ethnicity: Caucasian - British
Profession: Banking and Financial Services
Years: 10 years in SG
Edu: Bachelors Degree
Three times rejected.
Not married.

Do Volunteering / charitable donations
Member of a Singapore committee relevant to my industry

Appreciate your thoughts on probability / how to improve profile. Would be wanting to apply mid next year after continuing efforts to improve profile.

Thanks in advance!


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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by jackysparrow » Sun, 07 Nov 2021 11:19 pm

Age :27
No of years in sg: 3years
Salary: 40k/ annum
Profession : C&S engineer
Ethnicity : Chinese
Nationality : Malaysian
Status : Single

Hi SGflyer!
Would like to have and advise from you on my chance of successful application pr

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by hangmann » Mon, 08 Nov 2021 1:33 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Sun, 07 Nov 2021 6:52 pm
hangmann wrote:
Sun, 07 Nov 2021 3:06 pm
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Sun, 07 Nov 2021 2:47 am


Singapore still harbours a deep mistrust of Communist VN. While they do a good trade with them, and don't mind S pass holders, they have not been easy to get Permanent Residency here. There are some, but most of those where formerly from S.VN and not the North. Or were married with Singaporean men. I personally had a lot of contact with them both during the VN War (AMVET) and from 1988~1991 working under UNHCR resettling VN Boat People (Refugees). I'm well aware of their feeling to the Vietnamese. So there is other factors which you will not find in print with their regard.
Perhaps it would be a general mistrust of the Vietnamese? My PR application was denied too but my family is actually from the South of Vietnam, fought alongside the US military against the communist regime, and eventually moved to the US in 1975.

Anyway I applied, and I also know some other Vietnamese Americans who applied within the last year with pretty stellar records (one with 1M+/year income), who got denied this year. It made me just assume that it's all because of the small quota of the "Other" category.
I actually wanted to say exactly that with regard to general mistrust in my earlier answer, but tempered it because of my own involvement during the war. The three and a half years I spent working under the auspices of the UNHCR were spent interviewing them in the 1st Asylum Camps and determining who were actually persecuted refugees and who were economic migrants (not considered refugees for resettlement - most of them were from NVN) but that is a different category altogether. During those 3.5 years I saw how they treated the refugees in the old Hawkins Road Camp out in Sembawang. I knew about the leaky boats that were given some fuel and some food and towed by the SGNavy back out to Int'l waters rather than allowing them to land. I worked in all the 1st asylum camps throughout ASEAN (Palawan, Cambodian/Thai border, P. Bidong, Msia & P. Galang Indo. across the harbour behind P. Batam and P. Bintan. You are right. They didn't care and didn't want them on Singapore land, full stop. It would seem two generations later, it's much the same.
Much respect to your service as a Vietnam War Vet and your work at UNHCR, you helped resettle families like mine in the US which is an act of generosity that can't be thanked enough. It's amazing looking back at it all now, there was so much immigration into the US over the years, I'm often surprised how many other Vietnamese people I meet in the US now (fully integrated and born there usually), we are close to 1% of all of the US in population, so we are truly part of the fabric of the country now.

The interesting thing about Singapore is that Vietnamese Americans feel very comfortable here culturally, given its both Asian and Western at the same time, and we blend in b/c we essentially look Chinese, however the government doesn't particular welcome us. In the US however it can be the opposite experience, the government makes you feel like an American once you arrive, but culturally it can be harder to feel integrated as an Asian in most cities.

Of course its not the fault of Americans, its just the demographics, I still love the country and don't think the country is appreciated enough by some Singaporeans, some of who think their own military is actually the force preventing them from getting invaded instead of giving a little more credit to the US Naval Fleet and Nuclear subs hanging out nearby.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Mon, 08 Nov 2021 9:26 am

jackysparrow wrote:
Sun, 07 Nov 2021 11:19 pm
Age :27
No of years in sg: 3years
Salary: 40k/ annum
Profession : C&S engineer
Ethnicity : Chinese
Nationality : Malaysian
Status : Single

Hi SGflyer!
Would like to have and advise from you on my chance of successful application pr
Should be OK

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Mon, 08 Nov 2021 9:26 am

oconnorandrew wrote:
Sun, 07 Nov 2021 9:09 pm
Hi everyone,

Appreciate your help in this forum. I would like to understand my probability / how to improve profile in getting PR:

Age: 35, Male
Ethnicity: Caucasian - British
Profession: Banking and Financial Services
Years: 10 years in SG
Edu: Bachelors Degree
Three times rejected.
Not married.

Do Volunteering / charitable donations
Member of a Singapore committee relevant to my industry

Appreciate your thoughts on probability / how to improve profile. Would be wanting to apply mid next year after continuing efforts to improve profile.

Thanks in advance!


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Going to be tough

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by oconnorandrew » Mon, 08 Nov 2021 10:05 am

singaporeflyer wrote:
oconnorandrew wrote:
Sun, 07 Nov 2021 9:09 pm
Hi everyone,

Appreciate your help in this forum. I would like to understand my probability / how to improve profile in getting PR:

Age: 35, Male
Ethnicity: Caucasian - British
Profession: Banking and Financial Services
Years: 10 years in SG
Edu: Bachelors Degree
Three times rejected.
Not married.

Do Volunteering / charitable donations
Member of a Singapore committee relevant to my industry

Appreciate your thoughts on probability / how to improve profile. Would be wanting to apply mid next year after continuing efforts to improve profile.

Thanks in advance!


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Going to be tough
I hear you on that and certainly seems odds are against me. Any further pointers would be greatly appreciated


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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by 6penny » Tue, 09 Nov 2021 2:17 pm

Hello all,

Wanted to thank everyone on this forum and give a little back to the community here. Been a long time lurker -- this is my first post!

Recently completed my PR formalities. Here are my details in case it helps others.

Age: 28
Nationality: Malaysian
Race: Malay
Gender: Male
Relationship/Family: Single
Education: UK Bachelors
Occupation: Senior Manager - Technology Company
Salary: SGD$300K+ per year
Work Pass: Employment Pass
Length of stay in Singapore: 2 years + 1 years at the time of application (I left Singapore for 2 years between the 3 years)
Working experience in Singapore: 3 years at the time of application, 4 years at the time of approval
Application Duration: Took over 10 months to receive approval
Other notes: Self-applied, no agencies. No letters or other gimmicks. Only supplied what was explicitly requested.

Looking through the PR population on the national statistics website, it looks like the PR population has declined by ~6% in 2021. I'd reckon they'll probably be taking a larger number of PRs on in 2022 to make up for the decline.

Good luck to all prospective and current applicants!

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by TweetyTeddy » Tue, 09 Nov 2021 4:43 pm

Hi ,

We have applied PR for three times and got rejected, would like to know the probability of approval based on below status.

Main applicant profile:

Age :37
Work Pass: EP
Profession : Principal Software Engineer in Automotive Industry(same company for 6 years, received promotion twice)
Salary: 92K/annum
No of years in SG: 6 Years Completed
Total working exp: 15 Years
Ethnicity : Indian
Children : 1 Girl , 6 Years old, got admission to local school for P1 2022.

Wife profile:

Age : 32
Work Pass: EP
Profession : Automation Tester in Banking Sector
Salary : 92k/annum
No of years in SG: 5 Years Completed
Total working experience: 10 years
Ethnicity : Indian


Change compared to last application:
1) Main applicants Salary increment
2) Child got admission into Local school.
3) Spouse applicant job and salary change.

Thanks and Regards,

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Tue, 09 Nov 2021 7:11 pm

TweetyTeddy wrote:
Tue, 09 Nov 2021 4:43 pm
Hi ,

We have applied PR for three times and got rejected, would like to know the probability of approval based on below status.

Main applicant profile:

Age :37
Work Pass: EP
Profession : Principal Software Engineer in Automotive Industry(same company for 6 years, received promotion twice)
Salary: 92K/annum
No of years in SG: 6 Years Completed
Total working exp: 15 Years
Ethnicity : Indian
Children : 1 Girl , 6 Years old, got admission to local school for P1 2022.

Wife profile:

Age : 32
Work Pass: EP
Profession : Automation Tester in Banking Sector
Salary : 92k/annum
No of years in SG: 5 Years Completed
Total working experience: 10 years
Ethnicity : Indian


Change compared to last application:
1) Main applicants Salary increment
2) Child got admission into Local school.
3) Spouse applicant job and salary change.

Thanks and Regards,
Not going to be easy.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by TweetyTeddy » Tue, 09 Nov 2021 8:37 pm

Thank you for the response,

May we know what are the areas to be improved?

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Tue, 09 Nov 2021 9:46 pm

TweetyTeddy wrote:
Tue, 09 Nov 2021 8:37 pm
Thank you for the response,

May we know what are the areas to be improved?
Salary and Job Role. These are the only 2 things that can be improved.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by rajspy84 » Wed, 10 Nov 2021 11:46 am

Hi,
I wanted to apply PR (second time), I want to ask my chances of approval, if you guys don't mind, based on your experience in this forum. My first application was made in 2019 and rejected after 6 months. I am planning to apply again in Nov 2021

Age: 33
Race: Indian
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married for 8 years
Education: Computer Science Engineering Graduate from India
Job: Senior DevOps Engineer (Cloud Infrastructure)
Length of stay in Singapore: 4 year+ (worked in the same company till now)
Income Tax Assessment : 4 Submitted
Total Job Experience: 10 Years
Salary:9.5K
Pass: EP
Professional Certification : Certified Software Security Practitioner
Association Membership: Singapore Tennis Association

applying with my wife
- Age: 33
- Visa - EP
- Education - Computer Science Engineering Graduate and been here for 3 years (submitted 3 Tax assessment)
- Salary - 7.5k
- Total Job Experience: 9 Years
- Job: Qa Engineer in a Maritime Company
- my son - 5-year-old study in Child Care

Major from last Application in Dec 2019
1. Change in my job and profile from Senior Automation Engineer to Senior DevOps Engineer and leading a devops team in same company.
2. One professional certification (Certified Software Security) and helping my company to move towards cloud technology
3. Change in Salary (11%) for myself
4. Change in Salary (25%) for my wife
5. Association Membership with Singapore Tennis Association

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Wed, 10 Nov 2021 11:53 am

rajspy84 wrote:
Wed, 10 Nov 2021 11:46 am
Hi,
I wanted to apply PR (second time), I want to ask my chances of approval, if you guys don't mind, based on your experience in this forum. My first application was made in 2019 and rejected after 6 months. I am planning to apply again in Nov 2021

Age: 33
Race: Indian
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married for 8 years
Education: Computer Science Engineering Graduate from India
Job: Senior DevOps Engineer (Cloud Infrastructure)
Length of stay in Singapore: 4 year+ (worked in the same company till now)
Income Tax Assessment : 4 Submitted
Total Job Experience: 10 Years
Salary:9.5K
Pass: EP
Professional Certification : Certified Software Security Practitioner
Association Membership: Singapore Tennis Association

applying with my wife
- Age: 33
- Visa - EP
- Education - Computer Science Engineering Graduate and been here for 3 years (submitted 3 Tax assessment)
- Salary - 7.5k
- Total Job Experience: 9 Years
- Job: Qa Engineer in a Maritime Company
- my son - 5-year-old study in Child Care

Major from last Application in Dec 2019
1. Change in my job and profile from Senior Automation Engineer to Senior DevOps Engineer and leading a devops team in same company.
2. One professional certification (Certified Software Security) and helping my company to move towards cloud technology
3. Change in Salary (11%) for myself
4. Change in Salary (25%) for my wife
5. Association Membership with Singapore Tennis Association
Have a try again. 30-40% chance.
Item 5 related to Tennis may not add much value.

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