PR Approval Probability 2021

[sundaymorningstaple]

As you know. We've known for many years that the pecking order for races has Chinese at the highest level, but the sub-pecking order has been and still is M'sian Chinese -> Indonesian Chinese -> PRC and other Chinese (unsure of this third bunch is further subdivided). So it appeared that you looked suitable based on stay, local good education and salary but the key apparently that opened the lock and set you apart from the rest was confirmation of ethnicity as that was all they aske for additionally. Congratulations and thank you for the data input here, it is appreciated.

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[John1541]

Definitely not counting chickens before they hatch! By ‘finalises’ I meant a decision either way - not necessarily approved. Good to know!

I also meant a decision either way. We've actually seen both happen here. (Rejection and/or approval)

Just to let you know guys, He got his PR approval. Mine still pending.

[omshastry]

Congrats to him, and all the best to you!

A quick question for mods if they are better aware - would ICA look at ethnicity only or at the combo of nationality + ethnicity? e.g. a naturalized South African who moved from India during her childhood and as an Indian citizen then - would she be considered in the same quota as other Indians? Or would she have an advantage/disadvantage?

[smoulder]

Congrats to him, and all the best to you!

A quick question for mods if they are better aware - would ICA look at ethnicity only or at the combo of nationality + ethnicity? e.g. a naturalized South African who moved from India during her childhood and as an Indian citizen then - would she be considered in the same quota as other Indians? Or would she have an advantage/disadvantage?

The quota for Indians is most likely a common bucket and not separate ones. However, nationality is a consideration for sure. For instance, Malaysian Indians (they are not naturalized) are looked upon more favorably as long as they meet other requirements.

Naturalized citizens of other countries - I'm not sure how much of empirical data exists here, but I distinctly recall a suggestion from one of the senior members that Indians who have been able to meet the citizenship requirements of another country may be looked upon more favorably - if true, I'm guessing that it would depend on "which" country they have been able to obtain citizenship of.

[singaporeflyer]

Naturalized citizens of other countries - I'm not sure how much of empirical data exists here, but I distinctly recall a suggestion from one of the senior members that Indians who have been able to meet the citizenship requirements of another country may be looked upon more favorably - if true, I'm guessing that it would depend on "which" country they have been able to obtain citizenship of.

I would see it in a different way. The person is already a Naturalised citizen of another country and now trying for SG? So how long will this person stay here?

[smoulder]

Naturalized citizens of other countries - I'm not sure how much of empirical data exists here, but I distinctly recall a suggestion from one of the senior members that Indians who have been able to meet the citizenship requirements of another country may be looked upon more favorably - if true, I'm guessing that it would depend on "which" country they have been able to obtain citizenship of.

I would see it in a different way. The person is already a Naturalised citizen of another country and now trying for SG? So how long will this person stay here?

I tend to agree with your viewpoint. I was merely quoting another theory I read here. I guess we just don't have enough of empirical evidence available.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Congrats to him, and all the best to you!

A quick question for mods if they are better aware - would ICA look at ethnicity only or at the combo of nationality + ethnicity? e.g. a naturalized South African who moved from India during her childhood and as an Indian citizen then - would she be considered in the same quota as other Indians? Or would she have an advantage/disadvantage?

The quota for Indians is most likely a common bucket and not separate ones. However, nationality is a consideration for sure. For instance, Malaysian Indians (they are not naturalized) are looked upon more favorably as long as they meet other requirements.

Naturalized citizens of other countries - I'm not sure how much of empirical data exists here, but I distinctly recall a suggestion from one of the senior members that Indians who have been able to meet the citizenship requirements of another country may be looked upon more favorably - if true, I'm guessing that it would depend on "which" country they have been able to obtain citizenship of.

I would tend to look at those naturalized Indians in other countries as a risk here in Singapore, however, I do believe that there is merit IF the Indians in question are only ethnically Indian and not previously an Indian National, e.g., 2nd or 3rd generation Indian born in another country and having citizenship by birthright in that country.

[cavemaner]

Hi all,

would appreciate your thoughts.

Race: Caucasian
Nationality: Australian
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Current pass: LTVP+ since 2020; prior EP since moving to Singapore in 2015
Education: Bachelor’s, Master's, Doctor degrees
Length of stay in SG: 7 years
Occupation: Senior allied health, private sector
Salary: 140k per annum

Wife: Singaporean Chinese
Occupation: mid-level FAANG
Salary: 180k per annum

Children: 1yr and 3yrs; both Singaporean

An update for this application. My submit additional docs button disappeared, application status is still pending. Yet I can access HDB and CPF portals now via Singpass. Am I right to feel optimistic?

[MOCHS]

An update for this application. My submit additional docs button disappeared, application status is still pending. Yet I can access HDB and CPF portals now via Singpass. Am I right to feel optimistic?

Just wait 2 weeks for your result. Do not do this back-testing method on other websites lest you get your application rejected.

LTVP holders can also access HDB website during retake application too...

[Lisafuller]

Hi all,

would appreciate your thoughts.

Race: Caucasian
Nationality: Australian
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Current pass: LTVP+ since 2020; prior EP since moving to Singapore in 2015
Education: Bachelor’s, Master's, Doctor degrees
Length of stay in SG: 7 years
Occupation: Senior allied health, private sector
Salary: 140k per annum

Wife: Singaporean Chinese
Occupation: mid-level FAANG
Salary: 180k per annum

Children: 1yr and 3yrs; both Singaporean

An update for this application. My submit additional docs button disappeared, application status is still pending. Yet I can access HDB and CPF portals now via Singpass. Am I right to feel optimistic?

Really doesn't mean anything. You'll know for sure soon enough.

[Pantsgrenadier]

Hi everyone, my PR application just got approved. My profile as below:

Myself:
Age: 30
Race: Vietnamese
Nationality: Vietnamese
Length of stay: since 2010
Education: Bachelor of Civil Engineering NUS
Work: 8 year, Construction industry
Salary: 60K annual excl bonus
Pass: EP
Married Oct 2020, no kid yet

Wife:
Age: 34
Race: Vietnamese
Nationality: Singaporean
Length of stay: since 2007, PR since 2012, SC since Nov 2020
Education: Accounting Degree NTU
Salary: 84K annual excl bonus

- 1st Application: Under PTS. Applied Nov 19. Rejected May 20.
- 2nd Application: Wife Sponsor. Applied Feb 21. Rejected Sep 21.
- 3rd Application: Wife Sponsor. Applied Apr 22. Status changed to approved on 21 Dec 22 and received IPA letter on today 23 Dec 22. There is almost no change to our profile since the previous rejection, except that my wife got a big bonus early this year

This is a pleasant, but really surprised Christmas gift, as with my profile and the supposed enormous backlog from ICA, we expected to wait a long time before receiving any reply.

Being a lurker with occasional posts in this forum, I want to thank everyone who has contributed to the knowledge bank here, and especially thank SMS for your well wishes last time (if you still remember haha).

I consider my case extremely lucky though, and would not recommend anyone to follow my timeline. It is best to stick to the advises in this forum, and not to worry too much about the outcome

[singaporeflyer]

Hi everyone, my PR application just got approved. My profile as below:

Myself:
Age: 30
Race: Vietnamese
Nationality: Vietnamese
Length of stay: since 2010
Education: Bachelor of Civil Engineering NUS
Work: 8 year, Construction industry
Salary: 60K annual excl bonus
Pass: EP
Married Oct 2020, no kid yet

Wife:
Age: 34
Race: Vietnamese
Nationality: Singaporean
Length of stay: since 2007, PR since 2012, SC since Nov 2020
Education: Accounting Degree NTU
Salary: 84K annual excl bonus

- 1st Application: Under PTS. Applied Nov 19. Rejected May 20.
- 2nd Application: Wife Sponsor. Applied Feb 21. Rejected Sep 21.
- 3rd Application: Wife Sponsor. Applied Apr 22. Status changed to approved on 21 Dec 22 and received IPA letter on today 23 Dec 22. There is almost no change to our profile since the previous rejection, except that my wife got a big bonus early this year

This is a pleasant, but really surprised Christmas gift, as with my profile and the supposed enormous backlog from ICA, we expected to wait a long time before receiving any reply.

Being a lurker with occasional posts in this forum, I want to thank everyone who has contributed to the knowledge bank here, and especially thank SMS for your well wishes last time (if you still remember haha).

I consider my case extremely lucky though, and would not recommend anyone to follow my timeline. It is best to stick to the advises in this forum, and not to worry too much about the outcome

Main change is duration of your Marriage in the recent application.

[Pantsgrenadier]

Main change is duration of your Marriage in the recent application.

Hi SF, yes I would reckon so. But at the time of application we haven't celebrated our 2-year anniversary yet, so we didn't really expect much from that. In fact, now we don't recall why we were so hurry with the application at that time, since we alrdy proceed with our resale flat purchase

[Lisafuller]

Hi everyone, my PR application just got approved. My profile as below:

Myself:
Age: 30
Race: Vietnamese
Nationality: Vietnamese
Length of stay: since 2010
Education: Bachelor of Civil Engineering NUS
Work: 8 year, Construction industry
Salary: 60K annual excl bonus
Pass: EP
Married Oct 2020, no kid yet

Wife:
Age: 34
Race: Vietnamese
Nationality: Singaporean
Length of stay: since 2007, PR since 2012, SC since Nov 2020
Education: Accounting Degree NTU
Salary: 84K annual excl bonus

- 1st Application: Under PTS. Applied Nov 19. Rejected May 20.
- 2nd Application: Wife Sponsor. Applied Feb 21. Rejected Sep 21.
- 3rd Application: Wife Sponsor. Applied Apr 22. Status changed to approved on 21 Dec 22 and received IPA letter on today 23 Dec 22. There is almost no change to our profile since the previous rejection, except that my wife got a big bonus early this year

This is a pleasant, but really surprised Christmas gift, as with my profile and the supposed enormous backlog from ICA, we expected to wait a long time before receiving any reply.

Being a lurker with occasional posts in this forum, I want to thank everyone who has contributed to the knowledge bank here, and especially thank SMS for your well wishes last time (if you still remember haha).

I consider my case extremely lucky though, and would not recommend anyone to follow my timeline. It is best to stick to the advises in this forum, and not to worry too much about the outcome

Congrats! Indeed very lucky.

[Lisafuller]

Main change is duration of your Marriage in the recent application.

Hi SF, yes I would reckon so. But at the time of application we haven't celebrated our 2-year anniversary yet, so we didn't really expect much from that. In fact, now we don't recall why we were so hurry with the application at that time, since we alrdy proceed with our resale flat purchase

Don't think ICA is so calculative. Longer marriage is testament to the strength of the relationship which is a green flag to them.