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PR Approval Probability 2021

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 28 Jun 2022 5:27 pm

lialechtka wrote:
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sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Tue, 28 Jun 2022 1:27 am
I'd say 60 to 70% base on the fact that while close, neither has breached the 40 year old point, yet. His ethnicity will probably more than offset his nationality and as noted, If he's the main applicant. The spouse, while equal footing either case, has a low quota and I don't believe it is given much weightage as the Main applicant. They are considered as flight risks but I betting his ethnicity will offset that. I'd buy a ticket and take the chance, but only if they have already had an EP renewal and not on the initial EP. Otherwise, wait until after the EP is renewed the first time, then apply. I wish them good luck.
Super, that is reinsuring. Our EP has been renewed for 3 years in summer 2021. Thank you!
I'm afraid I have to bow to our resident eagle eye here, MOCHS. She caught what I missed. I don't see children on the cards either as with both nearing 40 I'm sure you all know the hazards of childbirth once you reach 40 if it's a first pregnancy. Unless you have been married at least 2 years, your odds of success decreases dramatically. Unless something out of the ordinary happens you will probably see a rejection unless two years have transpired prior to the date of application. I'll have to adjust my assessment to 40~50% but hope that I am wrong.
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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Tue, 28 Jun 2022 6:46 pm

lialechtka wrote:
Tue, 28 Jun 2022 4:17 pm
MOCHS wrote:
Mon, 27 Jun 2022 6:01 pm
lialechtka wrote:
Mon, 27 Jun 2022 4:04 pm
Dear experts,

Could you please give me a view on our chances for PR application?
Date of application: Nov 2021
Date of ethnicity prove documents request: Feb 2022. Since then no news...

Main applicant:
Age: 39
Race: Chinese
Citizenship: French
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Education: Master in computer science
Job: Trading IT in a Bank
Length of stay in Singapore: since Sep 2019
Salary: 250k+
Pass: EP
PR Application: First time

Spouse:
Age: 35
Race: Caucasian
Citizenship: British
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Education: Master in computer science and Master in Finance
Job: Business Development in Financial Services Consulting
Length of stay in Singapore: since Oct 2019
Salary: 250k+
Pass: EP
PR Application: First time
You didn’t mention how long you’ve been married for and whether there are any children.

Pro: Your race has the most quota

Cons: Your wife’s race has the least quota, your ages, salary is a bit high that ICA might feel you two could be a flight risk and parachute to another country at the lure of better pay.

Chances lean toward low unless senior members of the forum are able to give a more positive outlook on your profile.
Sorry for not mentioning marriage length and kids. No kids yet and married in Singapore last summer
50-50 chance now. if rejected, likely will get it on the second attempt

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by Lisafuller » Wed, 29 Jun 2022 1:51 am

yuntai wrote:
Thu, 23 Jun 2022 10:55 pm
Dear experts here

It passed 6months since i applied for PR i Dec'21. Wondering the chance of me getting PR.

Age: 33
Race: Japanese
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married with 5yrs old son (added my wife & son in the application)
Education: Master in Chemical engineering in Japan & Master of Business Admission from NUS
Job: manager in FAANG
Length of stay in Singapore: 5 years
Total Job Experience: 9+ years
Salary: 160k+
Pass: EP
PR Application: First time

Thank you!
What is your wife’s profile?

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by Lisafuller » Wed, 29 Jun 2022 1:52 am

lialechtka wrote:
Tue, 28 Jun 2022 4:17 pm
MOCHS wrote:
Mon, 27 Jun 2022 6:01 pm
lialechtka wrote:
Mon, 27 Jun 2022 4:04 pm
Dear experts,

Could you please give me a view on our chances for PR application?
Date of application: Nov 2021
Date of ethnicity prove documents request: Feb 2022. Since then no news...

Main applicant:
Age: 39
Race: Chinese
Citizenship: French
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Education: Master in computer science
Job: Trading IT in a Bank
Length of stay in Singapore: since Sep 2019
Salary: 250k+
Pass: EP
PR Application: First time

Spouse:
Age: 35
Race: Caucasian
Citizenship: British
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Education: Master in computer science and Master in Finance
Job: Business Development in Financial Services Consulting
Length of stay in Singapore: since Oct 2019
Salary: 250k+
Pass: EP
PR Application: First time
You didn’t mention how long you’ve been married for and whether there are any children.

Pro: Your race has the most quota

Cons: Your wife’s race has the least quota, your ages, salary is a bit high that ICA might feel you two could be a flight risk and parachute to another country at the lure of better pay.

Chances lean toward low unless senior members of the forum are able to give a more positive outlook on your profile.
Sorry for not mentioning marriage length and kids. No kids yet and married in Singapore last summer
As more senior members of the form have pointed out, chances are low to fair now but will certainly increase when you have kids. Still, don’t be too caught up with playing the statistics game and just let nature take its course.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by pakchoy » Fri, 01 Jul 2022 11:06 am

(did not want to create a new thread, but this maybe a little out of topic).

I've been in Singapore for (almost) 2 years now, but I'm starting a new job next Month.

Once I start in the new company, ideally I want to immediately apply for PR, but one of the required documents is this:
A9 Current Employer’s letter stating the date of employment, position held, salary per month for the past 6 months with breakdown into basic, overtime and allowance per month

Do I need to wait until my 6th Month in the new company?
Regardless of the probability, can I technically apply under that condition?

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Fri, 01 Jul 2022 4:21 pm

pakchoy wrote:
Fri, 01 Jul 2022 11:06 am
(did not want to create a new thread, but this maybe a little out of topic).

I've been in Singapore for (almost) 2 years now, but I'm starting a new job next Month.

Once I start in the new company, ideally I want to immediately apply for PR, but one of the required documents is this:
A9 Current Employer’s letter stating the date of employment, position held, salary per month for the past 6 months with breakdown into basic, overtime and allowance per month

Do I need to wait until my 6th Month in the new company?
Regardless of the probability, can I technically apply under that condition?
Better to wait for 6 months in new company and then reapply. else you need to submit letters from past company + latest company and still low chance of getting it approved

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by MOCHS » Fri, 01 Jul 2022 5:18 pm

If I ever worked in ICA and saw someone submit just one month’s payslip when the requirements clearly states “6 months payslip”, I would assume they are unable to understand simple instructions.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by smoulder » Fri, 01 Jul 2022 9:39 pm

MOCHS wrote:
Fri, 01 Jul 2022 5:18 pm
If I ever worked in ICA and saw someone submit just one month’s payslip when the requirements clearly states “6 months payslip”, I would assume they are unable to understand simple instructions.
If I worked in the ICA, I would have the coders modify the site to reject people trying to hit the submit button without the correct documents :)

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by Hope11 » Sat, 02 Jul 2022 1:50 am

Hello,

It has been around 20 months of our PR application.
Normally I check status once in a week with positive expectation from past 1 year.

Should I continue to wait or its good idea to ask status update from ICA?
Also, please assist me how should I ask update about my application?

Thanks

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 02 Jul 2022 12:39 pm

MOCHS & smoulder......

You guys have been reading too many of my posts. You both are starting to get as cynical as ME! :P (frankly, I love it! :cool: ) :lol:
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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by Srkm » Sat, 02 Jul 2022 9:37 pm

Hello!

Could you please give me a view on our chances for PR application?
Date of application: Feb 2022


Main applicant:
Age: 39
Race: Indian
Citizenship: India
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Education: MBA
Job: Financial investment
Length of stay in Singapore: since Sep 2014
Salary: 400k+
Pass: EP
PR Application: Second time.

Spouse:
Age: 34
Race: India
Citizenship: India
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Education: law guaduate
Job: Lawyer
Length of stay in Singapore: since Sept 2014
Salary: 150k+
Pass: EP
PR Application: Second time.

We have a child born in Singapore in 2019. Our first application was in 2020 which was rejected.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by singaporeflyer » Sun, 03 Jul 2022 10:16 am

Srkm wrote:
Sat, 02 Jul 2022 9:37 pm
Hello!

Could you please give me a view on our chances for PR application?
Date of application: Feb 2022


Main applicant:
Age: 39
Race: Indian
Citizenship: India
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Education: MBA
Job: Financial investment
Length of stay in Singapore: since Sep 2014
Salary: 400k+
Pass: EP
PR Application: Second time.

Spouse:
Age: 34
Race: India
Citizenship: India
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Education: law guaduate
Job: Lawyer
Length of stay in Singapore: since Sept 2014
Salary: 150k+
Pass: EP
PR Application: Second time.

We have a child born in Singapore in 2019. Our first application was in 2020 which was rejected.
Have a try.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by Srkm » Sun, 03 Jul 2022 10:49 am

Thanks. Is there a decent chance this time around? I do realise the race quota works against us :)

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by pakchoy » Sun, 03 Jul 2022 11:22 am

MOCHS wrote:
Fri, 01 Jul 2022 5:18 pm
If I ever worked in ICA and saw someone submit just one month’s payslip when the requirements clearly states “6 months payslip”, I would assume they are unable to understand simple instructions.
The question wasn't about the payslip though, was it? It was about the letter that need to contain the 6 months salary breakdown.

And since there's technically no restrictions on how soon you can apply, I thought I'd ask in the forum.

I'm aware there's another requirement for the payslip, which only states "Payslips for the last 6 months;" which could mean someone could supply 6 months payslips from different emoloyer.

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Re: PR Approval Probability 2021

Post by MOCHS » Sun, 03 Jul 2022 1:53 pm

^ You could but it raises questions on why you are so eager/impatient/desperate to apply for PR one month into working with your new company instead of waiting for 6 months in the same company just like everyone else.

It’s also a matter of convenience & lesser paperwork. By waiting 6 months in company B you just submit one letter of employment and 6 months company B payslips.

If you mix and match, you’re gonna have to submit previous company A’s letter of employment/resignation, previous company A’s X months of payslips, current company B’s letter of employment and current company B’s X months of payslips. It is just unnecessarily complicated.

ICA processes a lot of PR applications, it makes processing easier for them and yourself.

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