Wd40 wrote: ↑
Tue, 03 Nov 2020 12:37 am
sundaymorningstaple wrote: ↑
Mon, 02 Nov 2020 11:50 am
WD40, your post above is exactly why Indians are having such a hard time gaining PR here. Assimilation is part of the game. This operating in a virtual commune and not integrating with the local population is a keystone of the immigration policy. Don't you think that ICA's field officers check out your habits here as well as the information you list on your application? I think I now possibly know why you have been consistently rejected over the years. Your actions speak louder than words.
It is not a deliberate thing to not integrate. Like I said, we tried. We applied for local school for my daughter and we didnt get a seat. There are enough local schools out there, but the authorities prefer to close them rather than giving the seats to foreigners. They prefer not to have more than 5% foreigners in any local school. They would rather have majority of foreigner kids go to International Schools
. So I think you are giving too much weight to this integration thing.
The PR application form has nothing in it to prove integration and not everybody comes to forums like me for the authorities to know whether people are integrating or not. Basically, they have a checkbox criteria, you either meet them or you dont. There is no way to change that.
Actually they do have boxes in the form to indicate integration. Some of these boxes include things like "are you a Malaysian" and "is your spouse a citizen". There is also "have you volunteered", but since the gahmen noticed this being abused, they take the answers with a pinch of salt these days.
Now it might seem unfair to you and some others that integration is viewed from such a "narrow" lens, but you have to understand that they have probably done enough of research to know the chances of integration the average Indian or any other non preferred race for that matter who is not married to a local. And they have enough good choices to pick from, so they are quite happy erring on the side of caution.
There was one gentleman from India who posted the other day about how he was approved recently on his first attempt after about 5 years in Singapore. He speculated that integration wise, he may have been successful because (in his words), he lives in an hdb, sends his kid to a local school (obviously they didn't have it easy to get admission) and is not a hindi speaker. Now some of these or all of them may or may not be signs of integration of an Indian from India in the eyes of the gahmen, but who knows. There may be some truth.
In any case, I think it's important to note that you really have to tick a lot of boxes before the gahmen takes you seriously enough to grant you a PR.