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Re: REP 2020

Post by david85 » Mon, 02 Nov 2020 4:28 pm

gizmogeek wrote:
Mon, 02 Nov 2020 11:40 am
"some voluntary leave SG like take other nationality" - I meant take other country PR/nationality and no need SG PR. Also might go back home country (do not renew REP - all voluntarily)
Wow, so every year around 6k-10k PR loose their PR status, that's not a small number.

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Re: REP 2020

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 02 Nov 2020 4:39 pm

It's this abuse that is probably part of the cause of the backlog. Those in the system are being compared with the datasets of those who leave to see if there are any correlations. Just more reasons for more rejections even though it appears that applications are increasing. Wouldn't surprise me any.
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Re: REP 2020

Post by therat » Mon, 02 Nov 2020 6:31 pm

david85 wrote:
Mon, 02 Nov 2020 4:28 pm
gizmogeek wrote:
Mon, 02 Nov 2020 11:40 am
"some voluntary leave SG like take other nationality" - I meant take other country PR/nationality and no need SG PR. Also might go back home country (do not renew REP - all voluntarily)
Wow, so every year around 6k-10k PR loose their PR status, that's not a small number.
my ex-colleague apply Singapore PR and Canada PR at the same.
Singapore PR approve first, so he and his family of 5, all become Singapore PR
After few yrs Canada PR approve, all give up Singapore PR to become Canada PR.

That is 5 PR quota.

Filipino family.

They are not the 1st filipino family, jump boat from Singapore PR to Canada PR.

Some PR not loosing their PR, they just give up their PR for green field.
Singapore PR basically is their stepping stone.

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Re: REP 2020

Post by malcontent » Mon, 02 Nov 2020 7:16 pm

I think the number of foreigners who view PR as a step toward SC is but a small minority. Most people just view it as another pass, subject to non-renewal, with a few additional perks.
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Re: REP 2020

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 02 Nov 2020 8:02 pm

Spot on malcontent. I did for a quarter of a century, but if my own country turns into Democratic Dogshit, I'm going to take another look at possible SGC.
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Re: REP 2020

Post by david85 » Tue, 03 Nov 2020 10:12 am

malcontent wrote:
Mon, 02 Nov 2020 7:16 pm
I think the number of foreigners who view PR as a step toward SC is but a small minority. Most people just view it as another pass, subject to non-renewal, with a few additional perks.
If the number of people who view PR as a step towards SC is a small minority, it should be very easy to get SC. Why do so many people still apply for SC and get rejected?

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Re: REP 2020

Post by gizmogeek » Tue, 03 Nov 2020 11:51 am

kyzyrkyzyl wrote:
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1. Yes, I’m staying in SG. I grew up here, haven’t been away for prolonged period.

2. Graduated with degree 2 years ago and have been holding a full-time job till now. CPF contributions and paid my taxes already too.
So are they only issuing 1 year REP now? we did not discuss the original ques in the post and went in another tangent PR->SC.
This person physically in SG, hold full time job - but gets only 1 year REP. Is this change for all REPs even if you are in SG and gainfully employed? Anyone else come across?

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Re: REP 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Tue, 03 Nov 2020 11:57 am

gizmogeek wrote:
Tue, 03 Nov 2020 11:51 am
but gets only 1 year REP. Is this change for all REPs even if you are in SG and gainfully employed? Anyone else come across?
Please don't create unwanted panic. There may be some other things in his case, which we may not know and hence the 1 year REP.

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Re: REP 2020

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 03 Nov 2020 12:22 pm

He is a prime candidate for SGC and it may be exactly what was mentioned in Parliament and also mentioned earlier in this thread viewtopic.php?p=834044#p834044
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Re: REP 2020

Post by midlet2013 » Tue, 03 Nov 2020 12:41 pm

one my my friends is a PR since university time. when she graduated with undergrad and joined a job, she was give 1 year REP. next time, she was given 5 years. I think if you are young and just starting, maybe they wanna test you.

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Re: REP 2020

Post by malcontent » Tue, 03 Nov 2020 3:42 pm

david85 wrote:
Tue, 03 Nov 2020 10:12 am
If the number of people who view PR as a step towards SC is a small minority, it should be very easy to get SC. Why do so many people still apply for SC and get rejected?
It is probably the same reason those who don’t need a loan always get offered one, and those who need a loan have a hard time getting one. Like a banker lending money, during certain times the bank is going to lend more loosely than others, some will get lucky and be approved even if they are not the ideal borrower, which may or may not work out for the bank.

I’m guessing the ideal PR candidate for SC is more likely to be upwardly mobile, the world is their oyster... they probably have many attractive options, of which Singapore is just one. They need Singapore less than Singapore needs them. The opposite is probably true for those who got a lucky approval at the time, especially if they haven’t lived up to the desired potential.
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Re: REP 2020

Post by malcontent » Wed, 04 Nov 2020 1:01 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Mon, 02 Nov 2020 8:02 pm
Spot on malcontent. I did for a quarter of a century, but if my own country turns into Democratic Dogshit, I'm going to take another look at possible SGC.
Put the SGC application down SMS... I’m calling it for Trump
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Re: REP 2020

Post by mudkips » Fri, 27 Nov 2020 11:14 am

Hey OP. I got a 1 Year REP renewal as well, last week.

Residing in Singapore and haven't left place in 5 years. PR for more than 20 years and in my 30s (single, never married, not male, biiiig South Asian country, no kids). Not employed at the moment though.

It's a bit strange that you've been employed gainfully and only got 1 year and not maybe 3 years :(. However, I have seen many posts here where they got the 5-year renewal and next year, hopefully with the COVID possibly better, here's hoping you get the 5-year one :love:.

My email from them was very worrying and it sounded like they wanted me to wrap up an existing bond and settle any outstanding matters and leave immediately. When I called and inquired, they said my renewal next year depends on if I have a job. When I asked if my PR itself will get cancelled, they said if I don't leave the country, it won't be but I can't come back inside.

When a place lets me know I'm not welcome, I don't know how to move forward. It's been home longer than the place I was born. Many years ago, I went to ask Lavender if I was eligible for SC but they said my salary was too low to even apply, so I never did.
malcontent wrote:
Tue, 03 Nov 2020 3:42 pm
I’m guessing the ideal PR candidate for SC is more likely to be upwardly mobile, the world is their oyster... they probably have many attractive options, of which Singapore is just one. They need Singapore less than Singapore needs them. The opposite is probably true for those who got a lucky approval at the time, especially if they haven’t lived up to the desired potential.
True that :-k.

Edit: On hindsight, I might have only gotten a year because they want me out of here whereas they want OP to apply for SC. The cookie crumbles the way it crumbles and when life gives you 🍋 and so on.

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Re: REP 2020

Post by malcontent » Fri, 27 Nov 2020 10:43 pm

In the current environment, it should be no surprise that they want to “thin the herd” in order to free up more opportunities for citizens. As a PR you really don’t have much to worry about. You’ve got a whole year to look for a job and are still free to leave and return to SG during that time. Worst case, if you are still unemployed after 12 months, just stay in country until you find a job, then reapply for your REP again (that is assuming they don’t give you another short-term extension, which is also possible).
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Re: REP 2020

Post by smoulder » Sat, 28 Nov 2020 11:50 am

malcontent wrote:
Wed, 04 Nov 2020 1:01 pm
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Mon, 02 Nov 2020 8:02 pm
Spot on malcontent. I did for a quarter of a century, but if my own country turns into Democratic Dogshit, I'm going to take another look at possible SGC.
Put the SGC application down SMS... I’m calling it for Trump
No SGC application now?

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