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Post by 2192kkm » Mon, 14 Sep 2020 6:16 pm

Hello -

I've been waiting for my citizenship outcome for quite some time now and wanted to get this groups thoughts on my chances and if this long wait time is expected.

Applied: August 2018
Submitted docs: January 2019

Nationality: Indonesian
Race: Chinese
Gender: Female
Age: 27
Education: Bachelors degree (top US university)
Basic salary:~100k per anum
Occupation: Manager
Industry: Technology
Total working experience: 5 years
Duration in Singapore: 5 years (since 2015, a few months after graduation)
PR since: March 2009
Marital status: Single

This would be my first time applying for citizenship.

Any input/advice would be much appreciated. Thank you!

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Post by vig.srinivasan93 » Mon, 14 Sep 2020 8:12 pm

I feel my assumption gets strengthened by what Mr 2192 kkm has posted. Kenny 1234 and 2192 kkm are almost in the same status. Both are preferred race (as per many postings by senior members like SMS...etc). They both are single. Both are at decent salary levels and stay at singapore too both are not varying vastly (infact 2192kkm stayed more I think). The only difference is "Manual submission" vs "Online submission". Any how this is only my deduction.

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Re: SC Chances

Post by 2192kkm » Tue, 15 Sep 2020 6:44 pm

Thanks for your input vig.srinivasan93!

Could you clarify on what your assumption is? Tried to read through kenny1234's post but was unable to deduce.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 15 Sep 2020 6:52 pm

vig. just wants to be right. He's like a lot who come on here with an axe to grind. let it go. He has a preconceived answer he is expecting and doesn't like it if we don't say what he wants to hear. He also has selective reading comprehension inasmuch as we always say the preferred race is 'Malaysian' Chinese. I've noted a number of times that in years gone by (around 2002~2005) Indonesia has lost the sheen it once had, PRC's have it even harder.

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Post by 2192kkm » Tue, 15 Sep 2020 6:57 pm

Thanks for the clarification sundaymorningstaple!

To be clear, you're saying my nationality has no advantage for Singapore citizenship? Any thoughts on my chances and when I can expect a response? 2 years seems relatively long.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 15 Sep 2020 8:13 pm

Your Nationality is probably neutral, truth be known. Being Indonesian Chinese is better than being Javanese, etc. Better than some of our other neighbours in ASEAN, for sure. As you seem to have good stats you probably still stand a good chance. If it were an ideal world, you would be a shoe-in. We have seen applications stretch to 23 months and be approved and we also seen the flip-side where they were ultimately rejected. (oh, the 23 month ones all were pre-covid, so it's basically anybody's guess at the moment. Sadly, the Tech sector is taking a hit, but that shouldn't impact you too much as you have PR. It's the EP holders who are having to scramble at the moment. My advice is just to hang in there and if it's rejected, wait another year or two and reapply. Sooner if you should happen to get married. :-) Sadly I'm too old and chained down to help out there. I'm expecting my 3rd G.child in about 6 weeks time. LOL

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Post by 2192kkm » Tue, 15 Sep 2020 8:40 pm

Ah, thank you so much sundaymorningstaple! This was super helpful.

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Post by the observer » Tue, 15 Sep 2020 9:32 pm

vig.srinivasan93 wrote:
Mon, 14 Sep 2020 8:12 pm
I feel my assumption gets strengthened by what Mr 2192 kkm has posted. Kenny 1234 and 2192 kkm are almost in the same status. Both are preferred race (as per many postings by senior members like SMS...etc). They both are single. Both are at decent salary levels and stay at singapore too both are not varying vastly (infact 2192kkm stayed more I think). The only difference is "Manual submission" vs "Online submission". Any how this is only my deduction.
Mate.

Indonesian Chinese may appear identical to you.
But in actual fact, its as identical as Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.

In a nutshell, Malaysian Chinese are the preferred lot.
In terms of kinship, dialect, language, historical ties, culture etc.
Indonesian Chinese are 2nd, but they lack the aforesaid kinship, historical ties, though they share the same dialect, language and perhaps to some extent, culture.
You get the drift?

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Re: SC Chances

Post by thismyvoice » Fri, 18 Sep 2020 4:52 pm

Indonesian Chinese is probably not as preferred because a sizable percentage do not speak Chinese. Just my guess.

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Re: SC Chances

Post by TropicalExpat » Sun, 20 Sep 2020 11:21 am

thismyvoice wrote:
Fri, 18 Sep 2020 4:52 pm
Indonesian Chinese is probably not as preferred because a sizable percentage do not speak Chinese. Just my guess.
My response is a bit of a generalisation, but if you look back at the history, Singapore and Malaysia are closely intertwined.
Singapore, Penang and Malacca were part of the Straits Settlements so there are a lot of families across the border.
I know many people who have grandparents on the other side of the border.
This is why Malaysian Chinese are preferred. That close relationship.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 21 Sep 2020 9:33 am

^^^^^This exactly. The government has expressed this numerous times over the past 38 years that I've been here. Assimilation is easiest as the cultures are virtually the same.

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Re: SC Chances

Post by 2192kkm » Mon, 21 Sep 2020 5:26 pm

Thanks all for the helpful responses! Does anyone know if they are issuing AIPs or rejections during this time, or are the on hold due to the pandemic?

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