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When to apply for PR on EP?

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When to apply for PR on EP?

Post by stephanruhl » Thu, 10 Sep 2020 1:19 pm

Hello All,

I have been thinking reading about PR and applications in general. The main tendency seems like waiting for 2 years under EP, and then applying. At the same time, I saw in one of the topics that it is okay to apply after the first year with EP, but I assume the chances are not that high.
My profile is

Gender: Male
Age: 33
Profession: Software Engineer / Local Gaming Company
Income: 110000 SGD / year
Nationality: Turkish
Education: Bachelor's
Married: Yes, to an Indonesian national. No kids.
Duration Length: Since November - 2019

Besides these, I have read in some topics that contributing to the society (regularlar donating blood and making financial donations to the charities since my arrival) and some other skills (i.e Being able to speak Mandarin - stating in China for 9 years before moving to SG) would have an impact on the application, though I am not so sure if these actually have an impact. I keep getting spammed by some agencies on Linkedin for applying via them, but after checking out this forum, I dont think it is something smart to do.

Anyway, I do not have any clear idea or even a gut feeling in terms of when to make the application. I assume I have to wait till next year for 2-year limit? And besides the waiting part, are there anything else that I may start doing to increase the chances of acceptance?

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Re: When to apply for PR on EP?

Post by TropicalExpat » Thu, 10 Sep 2020 1:49 pm

stephanruhl wrote:
Thu, 10 Sep 2020 1:19 pm
Hello All,

I have been thinking reading about PR and applications in general. The main tendency seems like waiting for 2 years under EP, and then applying. At the same time, I saw in one of the topics that it is okay to apply after the first year with EP, but I assume the chances are not that high.
My profile is

Gender: Male
Age: 33
Profession: Software Engineer / Local Gaming Company
Income: 110000 SGD / year
Nationality: Turkish
Education: Bachelor's
Married: Yes, to an Indonesian national. No kids.
Duration Length: Since November - 2019

Besides these, I have read in some topics that contributing to the society (regularlar donating blood and making financial donations to the charities since my arrival) and some other skills (i.e Being able to speak Mandarin - stating in China for 9 years before moving to SG) would have an impact on the application, though I am not so sure if these actually have an impact. I keep getting spammed by some agencies on Linkedin for applying via them, but after checking out this forum, I dont think it is something smart to do.

Anyway, I do not have any clear idea or even a gut feeling in terms of when to make the application. I assume I have to wait till next year for 2-year limit? And besides the waiting part, are there anything else that I may start doing to increase the chances of acceptance?
I think your chances are quite low at the moment.
Your ethnicity would mean you would like to be put into "others" - that is, basically everyone who is not Chinese, Indian, Malay or Straits Eurasian. The number of the "others" given out every year is limited, and many go to those who are marrying local Singaporeans citizens.
At the same time, you are competing against all those caucasian execs who have been parachuted into the regional HQ in Singapore. These people have high education qualifications and most likely earning well in excess of your salary.

I don't think speaking Mandarin will help you, as your ethnicity matters more than your language skills [though swearing in hokkien might get you kudos points among locals :D ]

We always say here that you should avoid immigration agencies ... they don't add any value to you, but you add plenty of value to their pockets!

Does your wife work? If so, what is her salary?
She would also need to materially contribute to boost your family profile. Thinking from the point of view of the gahmen - they look at your family profile and think that you will likely want kids and they will get stronger chance at PR and thus take resources away from Singaporeans.

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Re: When to apply for PR on EP?

Post by stephanruhl » Fri, 11 Sep 2020 11:31 am

Does your wife work? If so, what is her salary?
Nope. She was applying before for vacancies but then SGUnited came, hence the chances are even lower(She is an English teacher, normally)
We always say here that you should avoid immigration agencies ... they don't add any value to you, but you add plenty of value to their pockets!
Yeah, for this I have already learnt here :D

Thanks a lot for your feedback O:)

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Re: When to apply for PR on EP?

Post by Addadude » Fri, 11 Sep 2020 12:14 pm

Tropical Expat pretty much covered everything.

But to be honest, every question you have has been addressed here countless times before and a simple search will give you links to all those threads in case there are other questions you might have.

Wait for at least 3 years of tax returns before you bother applying - but also take into account the political/employment climate when you do. If it's like it is currently you'll likely be wasting your time and application fee.

And those immigration agencies on LI are indeed useless. I've been spammed by them, particularly Paul Immigration services, dozens of times and I've been a PR for 16 years. In fact I know of Singaporeans who've been informed by these companies that they are excellent candidates for PR...
"Both politicians and nappies need to be changed regularly, and for the same reasons."

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