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HOW TO STOP/STAY LANDLORD NOTICE FOR VACATING UNIT

Post by Mike Cooper » Thu, 10 Sep 2020 9:39 am

Dear All,
My Landlord has sent me a letter to vacate the unit citing poor maintenance of facility, which I believe is not true.

Where can I complain or challenge this notice to stop the landlord from forcing me to vacate the unit.

Thanks

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Re: HOW TO STOP/STAY LANDLORD NOTICE FOR VACATING UNIT

Post by Max Headroom » Thu, 10 Sep 2020 12:38 pm

Did he include official documentation? If not, it's likely bogus, but it's a good idea to request for it, so you can be sure.

If he's really having you on, dig in your heels and get your money's worth.

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Re: HOW TO STOP/STAY LANDLORD NOTICE FOR VACATING UNIT

Post by Mike Cooper » Sun, 20 Sep 2020 10:09 pm

Thanks Max, he has just send a letter by registered post no official documentation

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Re: HOW TO STOP/STAY LANDLORD NOTICE FOR VACATING UNIT

Post by sndy » Sun, 20 Sep 2020 11:47 pm

Go to SCT and on what basis is he claiming non-maintenance, have he been to the place and photographic proof?

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Re: HOW TO STOP/STAY LANDLORD NOTICE FOR VACATING UNIT

Post by PNGMK » Mon, 21 Sep 2020 7:46 am

You do not have to more out without a corresponding court order (i.e. you cannot be forced out by the police or LL unless there is a court order in place saying you must leave, if the LL changes the locks call the police and KEEP A COPY OF YOUR TA ON YOU). You can refuse. Your counter offer should be for the LL to pay moving costs, new lease establishment costs etc as well as return of the deposit and rent in advance.

It may be worth engaging a solicitor to review your TA and write a letter back to the LL.
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Re: HOW TO STOP/STAY LANDLORD NOTICE FOR VACATING UNIT

Post by abbby » Mon, 21 Sep 2020 11:28 am

Strange to have owners behaving this way during times like this. Most owners would be holding on to their tenants.
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Re: HOW TO STOP/STAY LANDLORD NOTICE FOR VACATING UNIT

Post by martincymru » Mon, 21 Sep 2020 3:56 pm

in UK (due to COVID) you must give 6 months notice

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Re: HOW TO STOP/STAY LANDLORD NOTICE FOR VACATING UNIT

Post by PNGMK » Mon, 21 Sep 2020 7:31 pm

abbby wrote:
Mon, 21 Sep 2020 11:28 am
Strange to have owners behaving this way during times like this. Most owners would be holding on to their tenants.
LL jobless and needs to sell condo I think.
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Re: HOW TO STOP/STAY LANDLORD NOTICE FOR VACATING UNIT

Post by Max Headroom » Tue, 22 Sep 2020 11:52 am

PNGMK wrote:
Mon, 21 Sep 2020 7:31 pm
abbby wrote:
Mon, 21 Sep 2020 11:28 am
Strange to have owners behaving this way during times like this. Most owners would be holding on to their tenants.
LL jobless and needs to sell condo I think.
Two words: "domino effect".

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Re: HOW TO STOP/STAY LANDLORD NOTICE FOR VACATING UNIT

Post by Mike Cooper » Wed, 23 Sep 2020 4:22 pm

Thank you all, appreciate your guidance on the same. Yes agree the LL should cooperate during challenging times.

I have replied back to the LL giving all details of the service. No reply yet from LL

Thanks once again, take care stay safe

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Re: HOW TO STOP/STAY LANDLORD NOTICE FOR VACATING UNIT

Post by PNGMK » Thu, 24 Sep 2020 10:21 am

Mike Cooper wrote:
Wed, 23 Sep 2020 4:22 pm
Thank you all, appreciate your guidance on the same. Yes agree the LL should cooperate during challenging times.

I have replied back to the LL giving all details of the service. No reply yet from LL

Thanks once again, take care stay safe
Did you counter offer to break lease for compensation yet? If not that is your next step. Remember you do not have to leave until they show up with a writ of court (and of course you yourself can argue the case in court - you are permitted to defend yourself against his allegation and my general impression is the magistrate will not auto default in LL favour). I would insist on full refund (less any actual damage), half moving costs and new lease fees (agent comm at the next place) to break a lease.
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Re: HOW TO STOP/STAY LANDLORD NOTICE FOR VACATING UNIT

Post by Mike Cooper » Thu, 24 Sep 2020 1:17 pm

My LL plans to issue a legal notice to vacate the property on account of poor maintenance which is not true.

May I request your help
1) How do I ensure that he cannot ask to me vacate just on a notice ?
2) Where can I go and file complain against this notice ?

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Re: HOW TO STOP/STAY LANDLORD NOTICE FOR VACATING UNIT

Post by PNGMK » Thu, 24 Sep 2020 3:36 pm

Mike Cooper wrote:
Thu, 24 Sep 2020 1:17 pm
My LL plans to issue a legal notice to vacate the property on account of poor maintenance which is not true.

May I request your help
1) How do I ensure that he cannot ask to me vacate just on a notice ?
2) Where can I go and file complain against this notice ?
1. What does he mean by "legal notice"? There's no such thing. There's a letter (which is nice but you can ignore) and then there's a writ of eviction (which you can't ignore). There is nothing else. Make it clear to your LL that you do not intend to voluntarily depart (without compensation) unless the LL succeeds in obtaining a writ (a court order).

2. You can't really complain to anyone but the magistrate at the court hearing by countering with your own evidence. You are probably at the point of needing a solicitor. Try talk to people who knows some - if you're really stuck I may know someone who can help.
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Re: HOW TO STOP/STAY LANDLORD NOTICE FOR VACATING UNIT

Post by PNGMK » Thu, 24 Sep 2020 3:37 pm

I not lawyer/teacher/CPA.
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Re: HOW TO STOP/STAY LANDLORD NOTICE FOR VACATING UNIT

Post by PNGMK » Thu, 24 Sep 2020 3:38 pm

"For cases involving other reasons for eviction, the tenant is also entitled to apply to court to resist eviction. The court will then decide whether to grant the writ of possession."

The reality is that it will cost the LL money to take you to court. There is a middle way where the LL agrees to compensate you for leaving early. If the LL doesn't take this path then let him spend the money filing his bogus case. The magistrate - if you present a reasonable counter case - will disagree with the LL.

If the LL perjures himself (lies in court) point it out. Perjury is a criminal offense punishable by 7 years in prison from memory.
I not lawyer/teacher/CPA.
You've been arrested? Law Society of Singapore can provide referrals.
You want an International School job? School website or http://www.ISS.edu
Your rugrat needs a School? Avoid for profit schools
You need Tax advice? Ask a CPA
You ran away without doing NS? Shame on you!

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