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Re: PR Approved

Post by wanabeagain » Sat, 05 Sep 2020 6:54 pm

Yes I kind of know why the processing took so long and provided an update to ICA as well.

Initially I thought so too tht my application will be shoe in but after the processing took longer than 15 months and then SMS wrote a long post too bout my application is all bout rejection which i copied below

“might be wrong, but Wanabe is probably feeling tense considering all that has been happening. After all, he jumped the gun out of the starting gate by applying for PR after 6 months of employment when everybody (or virtually everybody - he put the virtually in it) knows you shouldn't apply for PR until you have been here on an work pass for at least 2 years or three tax assessments (not necessary whole years but encompassing 2 consecutive years) e.g., after the first renewal of one work pass. So he was rejected, for all intents and purposes, out of hand. Now, I believe he is living in back in M'sia? So they may see that as the possibility that he's not real serious about PR in Singapore or he would be living here. Add to that, he is now in his 40's, so makes him ripe for retrenchment in a couple of years (like heaps have had done to them over the past decade). And apparently even though he was staying in Singapore for a period of time it would seem according to an earlier post in a different thread, his kids & wife (?) are still staying in Malaysia. So I am assuming (yes) that he applied for PR for himself only as he may have son and doesn't want him having to do NS here. This and his age, regardless of his income, will probably lead to another rejection. But this is just my opinion.

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Re: PR Approved

Post by wanabeagain » Sat, 05 Sep 2020 6:58 pm

TropicalExpat wrote:
Sat, 05 Sep 2020 9:52 am
wanabeagain wrote:
Sat, 05 Sep 2020 5:53 am
Yes correct and to add on I applied after 6 months payslip and just recently did my EP renewal
Well there's the answer ... we almost always say that if you are Malaysian Chinese you are a shoe-in...

Older candidates are certainly at a disadvantage, but the nationality and ethnicity has clearly trumped the age issue.
Also the salary is reasonably good. I know people close to their 40s who are not paid as much as you and are Chinese, but not Malaysians who got it recently as well, so clearly your nationality made the difference here.

Congrats in any case. And welcome to CPF land :D
Thanks but with the pandemic now it is quite difficult to complete the formalities. ICA said all family member must b present in order to complete the formalities and cant do it individually or withdraw.

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Re: PR Approved

Post by TropicalExpat » Sat, 05 Sep 2020 9:57 pm

wanabeagain wrote:
Sat, 05 Sep 2020 6:58 pm
TropicalExpat wrote:
Sat, 05 Sep 2020 9:52 am
wanabeagain wrote:
Sat, 05 Sep 2020 5:53 am
Yes correct and to add on I applied after 6 months payslip and just recently did my EP renewal
Well there's the answer ... we almost always say that if you are Malaysian Chinese you are a shoe-in...

Older candidates are certainly at a disadvantage, but the nationality and ethnicity has clearly trumped the age issue.
Also the salary is reasonably good. I know people close to their 40s who are not paid as much as you and are Chinese, but not Malaysians who got it recently as well, so clearly your nationality made the difference here.

Congrats in any case. And welcome to CPF land :D
Thanks but with the pandemic now it is quite difficult to complete the formalities. ICA said all family member must b present in order to complete the formalities and cant do it individually or withdraw.
:( oh that sucks!
Ask for an extension if necessary!

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Re: PR Approved

Post by wanabeagain » Sun, 06 Sep 2020 9:21 pm

TropicalExpat wrote:
Sat, 05 Sep 2020 9:57 pm
wanabeagain wrote:
Sat, 05 Sep 2020 6:58 pm
TropicalExpat wrote:
Sat, 05 Sep 2020 9:52 am


Well there's the answer ... we almost always say that if you are Malaysian Chinese you are a shoe-in...

Older candidates are certainly at a disadvantage, but the nationality and ethnicity has clearly trumped the age issue.
Also the salary is reasonably good. I know people close to their 40s who are not paid as much as you and are Chinese, but not Malaysians who got it recently as well, so clearly your nationality made the difference here.

Congrats in any case. And welcome to CPF land :D
Thanks but with the pandemic now it is quite difficult to complete the formalities. ICA said all family member must b present in order to complete the formalities and cant do it individually or withdraw.
:( oh that sucks!
Ask for an extension if necessary!
Yes will email to ICA. Have you heard of how long normally ICA will grant for an extension? It is very unlikely even for flights to resume in coming months.

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Re: PR Approved

Post by singaporeflyer » Sun, 06 Sep 2020 10:10 pm

wanabeagain wrote:
Sun, 06 Sep 2020 9:21 pm
TropicalExpat wrote:
Sat, 05 Sep 2020 9:57 pm
wanabeagain wrote:
Sat, 05 Sep 2020 6:58 pm


Thanks but with the pandemic now it is quite difficult to complete the formalities. ICA said all family member must b present in order to complete the formalities and cant do it individually or withdraw.
:( oh that sucks!
Ask for an extension if necessary!
Yes will email to ICA. Have you heard of how long normally ICA will grant for an extension? It is very unlikely even for flights to resume in coming months.
Where is your family now?

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Re: PR Approved

Post by wanabeagain » Mon, 07 Sep 2020 11:47 am

singaporeflyer wrote:
Sun, 06 Sep 2020 10:10 pm
wanabeagain wrote:
Sun, 06 Sep 2020 9:21 pm
TropicalExpat wrote:
Sat, 05 Sep 2020 9:57 pm


:( oh that sucks!
Ask for an extension if necessary!
Yes will email to ICA. Have you heard of how long normally ICA will grant for an extension? It is very unlikely even for flights to resume in coming months.
Where is your family now?
Malaysia and Europe. To come back from Malaysia is ok although alot of approvals needed but Europe seems to be difficult. The country does not even allow flights so thinking if its possible to withdraw 1 family member but seems not possible.

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Re: PR Approved

Post by TropicalExpat » Mon, 07 Sep 2020 1:58 pm

wanabeagain wrote:
Mon, 07 Sep 2020 11:47 am
singaporeflyer wrote:
Sun, 06 Sep 2020 10:10 pm
wanabeagain wrote:
Sun, 06 Sep 2020 9:21 pm


Yes will email to ICA. Have you heard of how long normally ICA will grant for an extension? It is very unlikely even for flights to resume in coming months.
Where is your family now?
Malaysia and Europe. To come back from Malaysia is ok although alot of approvals needed but Europe seems to be difficult. The country does not even allow flights so thinking if its possible to withdraw 1 family member but seems not possible.
Which country in Europe? Can they not drive/train to another country with a flight?

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Re: PR Approved

Post by wanabeagain » Mon, 07 Sep 2020 4:30 pm

Not sure if it is even possible plus the quarantine requirements and various pre-approval needed, this seems to be impossible within 1-2 months. Therefore the straight forward way is to withdraw my kid application. Waiting to hear from ICA but if anyone got any similar experience of extending the IPA, please share like how long it was extended etc. Thanks!

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Re: PR Approved

Post by TropicalExpat » Mon, 07 Sep 2020 5:03 pm

Is your kid a son or a daughter?

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Re: PR Approved

Post by wanabeagain » Mon, 07 Sep 2020 10:38 pm

TropicalExpat wrote:
Mon, 07 Sep 2020 5:03 pm
Is your kid a son or a daughter?
Daughter in overseas

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Re: PR Approved

Post by venton » Tue, 08 Sep 2020 10:18 am

wanabeagain wrote:
Sat, 05 Sep 2020 6:54 pm
Yes I kind of know why the processing took so long and provided an update to ICA as well.

Initially I thought so too tht my application will be shoe in but after the processing took longer than 15 months and then SMS wrote a long post too bout my application is all bout rejection which i copied below

“might be wrong, but Wanabe is probably feeling tense considering all that has been happening. After all, he jumped the gun out of the starting gate by applying for PR after 6 months of employment when everybody (or virtually everybody - he put the virtually in it) knows you shouldn't apply for PR until you have been here on an work pass for at least 2 years or three tax assessments (not necessary whole years but encompassing 2 consecutive years) e.g., after the first renewal of one work pass. So he was rejected, for all intents and purposes, out of hand. Now, I believe he is living in back in M'sia? So they may see that as the possibility that he's not real serious about PR in Singapore or he would be living here. Add to that, he is now in his 40's, so makes him ripe for retrenchment in a couple of years (like heaps have had done to them over the past decade). And apparently even though he was staying in Singapore for a period of time it would seem according to an earlier post in a different thread, his kids & wife (?) are still staying in Malaysia. So I am assuming (yes) that he applied for PR for himself only as he may have son and doesn't want him having to do NS here. This and his age, regardless of his income, will probably lead to another rejection. But this is just my opinion.
For Malaysian Chinese, application outcome usually wont take more than one year, approval cases typically take around 6-8 months.

Since you have an insight on the processing delay, would you like to share it with us?

If you want to rebuke an old post, at least lay out the latest information so that others can learn too.

Thank you.

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