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Chance of PR

Relocating, travelling or planning to make Singapore home? Discuss the criterias, passes or visa that is required.
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Re: Chance of PR

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 07 Sep 2020 12:17 pm

Okay. I was hoping on the Identity card as I was used to seeing PP for my staff and helper, but I don't happen to have a copy of her Identity card. I think I'd try to find a way to also submit that as part of your passport copy in order to preclude any question and possibly give you an edge if possible when you make that initial submission. You journey may well be like a Salmon (swimming upstream against the current) but with a bit of advanced planning you might be lucky. Finding us may well have been the best thing that as happened, even if some of us (me) are rather brusque at times. We all try to tell is the way we see it without trying to blow smoke up people's butts. Good Luck and keep us informed (you guys are where all our data and opinions come from).
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Re: Chance of PR

Post by stevendragoz » Wed, 09 Sep 2020 9:46 am

Thank you @sundaymorningstaple for the well wishes. I am glad that I found this forum before I apply for PR.

I will do my best in trying to submit my citizen certificate alongside my passport or put as supporting documents when I apply. Now, I am trying to get hold of the Original Documents from Myanmar to Singapore. As the airports are closed as of now, it will be difficult to send the original copies over.

Moreover, I have heard from people that having a Minister (MP) writing-in to ICA to take a look at an individual's application will help to expedite or give more attention to the applicant. I am not sure how true this is but I would like your opinion on this.

To even get the Minister to write, need to know him/her, do voluntary work together with him/her and etc, which I think will be quite difficult

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Re: Chance of PR

Post by singaporeflyer » Wed, 09 Sep 2020 10:24 am

stevendragoz wrote:
Wed, 09 Sep 2020 9:46 am
Thank you @sundaymorningstaple for the well wishes. I am glad that I found this forum before I apply for PR.

I will do my best in trying to submit my citizen certificate alongside my passport or put as supporting documents when I apply. Now, I am trying to get hold of the Original Documents from Myanmar to Singapore. As the airports are closed as of now, it will be difficult to send the original copies over.

Moreover, I have heard from people that having a Minister (MP) writing-in to ICA to take a look at an individual's application will help to expedite or give more attention to the applicant. I am not sure how true this is but I would like your opinion on this.

To even get the Minister to write, need to know him/her, do voluntary work together with him/her and etc, which I think will be quite difficult
Better not to expedite or ask to seek for more attention via the MP. Also dont do volunteering work just for getting PR. It does not work and is not right.

Secondly, I dont think MP will help someone who is not a Singapore Citizen.

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Re: Chance of PR

Post by therat » Wed, 09 Sep 2020 11:35 am

stevendragoz wrote:
Wed, 09 Sep 2020 9:46 am
Thank you @sundaymorningstaple for the well wishes. I am glad that I found this forum before I apply for PR.

I will do my best in trying to submit my citizen certificate alongside my passport or put as supporting documents when I apply. Now, I am trying to get hold of the Original Documents from Myanmar to Singapore. As the airports are closed as of now, it will be difficult to send the original copies over.

Moreover, I have heard from people that having a Minister (MP) writing-in to ICA to take a look at an individual's application will help to expedite or give more attention to the applicant. I am not sure how true this is but I would like your opinion on this.

To even get the Minister to write, need to know him/her, do voluntary work together with him/her and etc, which I think will be quite difficult
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Re: Chance of PR

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 09 Sep 2020 11:43 am

singaporeflyer wrote:
Wed, 09 Sep 2020 10:24 am
stevendragoz wrote:
Wed, 09 Sep 2020 9:46 am

To even get the Minister to write, need to know him/her, do voluntary work together with him/her and etc, which I think will be quite difficult
Better not to expedite or ask to seek for more attention via the MP. Also dont do volunteering work just for getting PR. It does not work and is not right.

Secondly, I dont think MP will help someone who is not a Singapore Citizen.
Correct, SF. The only way is if the PR application is based on Family Ties Scheme and the spouse is a SGC. Even then it's not usually effective. (I had my initial rejection appealed (with letter from MR) and appeal still rejected. After a couple of years reapplied and got it but without attempting to use our new MP (New constituency). If applying on PTS scheme, total waste of time (even if the MP will do it).
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Re: Chance of PR

Post by stevendragoz » Thu, 10 Sep 2020 9:52 pm

@singaporeflyer, sundaymorningstaple and therat,
Thank you for the comments.
Noted on the issues about the MP writing in, I will not ask at all.
For the volunteering,please allow me to clarify, I am not doing volunteering just for getting PR.

I am volunteering because I believe in the cause and want to make a better place for whoever is unfortunate. People/Students would bring timesheets to clock in their CIP hours, I did not even bother about that at all. I am simply volunteering to help and thats that. I am sorry if I sounded otherwise.

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Re: Chance of PR

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 11 Sep 2020 3:29 am

stevendragoz,

No worries on the volunteering thing. Doesn't hurt to add it, but it will have little or no impact on youu application. The problem is too many people used it as a vehicle to add brownie points to their PR applications and therefore, eventually ICA got wise and just disregard volunteering. I didn't start volunteering with the RC (People's Association) until I was 61 long after I had PR and I still am with the RC today (at 73). I understand where you are coming from. I also worked with UNHCR for 3 years from 1988 to 1991 resettling VN Boat People throughout the ASEAN region.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Re: Chance of PR

Post by BBCDoc » Fri, 11 Sep 2020 7:13 am

Stevendragoz,

Aim for a significant increase in salary (>40%), to reflect significant career growth (rising start potential).

Before I attained PR, I didn’t do volunteering but I did donate to charities that directly benefited people in need. This effort is captured by IRAS, whereas your volunteering time will not be. Not saying that this is a sure-fire route, but it is quantifiable compared to what you want to do.


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Re: Chance of PR

Post by stevendragoz » Mon, 14 Sep 2020 11:32 pm

@sundarymorningstaple, Thank you for the advices so far. It was a hectic weekend for me, please pardon my late responses. Understood on the volunteering. My main focus on actually getting a higher chance would be to somehow add my citizenship card which states my race as supporting documents.

@BBCDoc, I would love to have that significant increase, however, I am a recent bachelors graduate with not much experience/expertise to ask for a high salary. I believe all efforts are captured by the government per say? I have not donated before but I will try to look into it.

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