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Citizenship application

Post by Sginsgp5 » Mon, 24 Aug 2020 9:06 pm

Hi, we applied for citizenship about 12 months back. Going by some forum posts, seems its early days for us. We may get a reply only after another 12 months
Though of checking some early guesses for the forum members or so.

Applied for a family of 4- myself, spouse and our 2 daughters. Details below
We are Indians, doesn’t seem to be a“preferred” race, again going by the forum posts.
Age - mine 45, wife 43.
Both Bankers, annual contribution to taxes of about 65k.
Kids going to local school
Both of us have been associated with a grassroots organisation as observers for last 3 years
PR for 9 years and in Singapore for last 11 years. Own a house here.
Do we stand any chance?

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Re: Citizenship application

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 25 Aug 2020 4:21 pm

With 11 years I'd say your chances are fair, but with the negative points you have already noted. Your age may be a factor, but with two school aged children and both schooling locally, I say that is in your favour. Your age may play a slight factor as it seems 45~50 years of age tends to meet with some resistance (but as noted, you already have children and they are already invested into the local school system. Normally people at your income levels also receive some resistance if in the Financial industry because of the ability and habits of some institutions to parachute you into foreign countries whenever they feel the need to. But looking at PR for 9 years and I'm assuming this is your first application, the other question that will surely arise is the length of time before you finally decided to apply for SGC. I'd give you a 70:30 chance of success (assuming both of your children already have their PR as well). Let us know how it goes. Singapore Flyer might have some additional viewpoints and I hope he will add to or disagree with some of my comments. I personally give a lot of weight and respect to his input here.
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Re: Citizenship application

Post by singaporeflyer » Tue, 25 Aug 2020 8:37 pm

Sginsgp5 wrote:
Mon, 24 Aug 2020 9:06 pm
Hi, we applied for citizenship about 12 months back. Going by some forum posts, seems its early days for us. We may get a reply only after another 12 months
Though of checking some early guesses for the forum members or so.

Applied for a family of 4- myself, spouse and our 2 daughters. Details below
We are Indians, doesn’t seem to be a“preferred” race, again going by the forum posts.
Age - mine 45, wife 43.
Both Bankers, annual contribution to taxes of about 65k.
Kids going to local school
Both of us have been associated with a grassroots organisation as observers for last 3 years
PR for 9 years and in Singapore for last 11 years. Own a house here.
Do we stand any chance?
Like what SMS has said you have a good chance of around 60-70%

What do you and your spouse work as and in which industry?

Few -ve's

Age
Ethnicity
High salary - so it may hint that you may relocate easily, but you have shown that you are different and have stayed here for 11 years.

But, I personally feel you may get it. Good luck !

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Re: Citizenship application

Post by jamie9vardy » Tue, 25 Aug 2020 8:42 pm

Ditto. 65-70% chance.

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Re: Citizenship application

Post by Sginsgp5 » Wed, 26 Aug 2020 7:47 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Tue, 25 Aug 2020 4:21 pm
With 11 years I'd say your chances are fair, but with the negative points you have already noted. Your age may be a factor, but with two school aged children and both schooling locally, I say that is in your favour. Your age may play a slight factor as it seems 45~50 years of age tends to meet with some resistance (but as noted, you already have children and they are already invested into the local school system. Normally people at your income levels also receive some resistance if in the Financial industry because of the ability and habits of some institutions to parachute you into foreign countries whenever they feel the need to. But looking at PR for 9 years and I'm assuming this is your first application, the other question that will surely arise is the length of time before you finally decided to apply for SGC. I'd give you a 70:30 chance of success (assuming both of your children already have their PR as well). Let us know how it goes. Singapore Flyer might have some additional viewpoints and I hope he will add to or disagree with some of my comments. I personally give a lot of weight and respect to his input here.
Thanks SMS, realised I didn’t provide all the details.
This is our 3rd application for citizenship. First 2 were rejected after about 18 months. Last application was rejected about 2 years back. And both our kids are PR.

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Re: Citizenship application

Post by Sginsgp5 » Wed, 26 Aug 2020 7:50 am

singaporeflyer wrote:
Tue, 25 Aug 2020 8:37 pm
Sginsgp5 wrote:
Mon, 24 Aug 2020 9:06 pm
Hi, we applied for citizenship about 12 months back. Going by some forum posts, seems its early days for us. We may get a reply only after another 12 months
Though of checking some early guesses for the forum members or so.

Applied for a family of 4- myself, spouse and our 2 daughters. Details below
We are Indians, doesn’t seem to be a“preferred” race, again going by the forum posts.
Age - mine 45, wife 43.
Both Bankers, annual contribution to taxes of about 65k.
Kids going to local school
Both of us have been associated with a grassroots organisation as observers for last 3 years
PR for 9 years and in Singapore for last 11 years. Own a house here.
Do we stand any chance?
Like what SMS has said you have a good chance of around 60-70%

What do you and your spouse work as and in which industry?

Few -ve's

Age
Ethnicity
High salary - so it may hint that you may relocate easily, but you have shown that you are different and have stayed here for 11 years.

But, I personally feel you may get it. Good luck !
Thanks Singaporeflyer. Both of us are Bankers. I work with a local bank and while my wife works with a foreign bank.

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Re: Citizenship application

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 26 Aug 2020 12:34 pm

If you want it, persistence is going to be needed. I feel you will be successful but I also know it's stressful as hell. Good Luck and let us know the outcome, either way. Our readers create our archives and that's how we see trends and provide the information. The long term regulars here came with their questions originally and have stayed on to help pay it forward.
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Re: Citizenship application

Post by the observer » Wed, 26 Aug 2020 4:36 pm

Sginsgp5 wrote:
Wed, 26 Aug 2020 7:50 am
singaporeflyer wrote:
Tue, 25 Aug 2020 8:37 pm
Sginsgp5 wrote:
Mon, 24 Aug 2020 9:06 pm
Hi, we applied for citizenship about 12 months back. Going by some forum posts, seems its early days for us. We may get a reply only after another 12 months
Though of checking some early guesses for the forum members or so.

Applied for a family of 4- myself, spouse and our 2 daughters. Details below
We are Indians, doesn’t seem to be a“preferred” race, again going by the forum posts.
Age - mine 45, wife 43.
Both Bankers, annual contribution to taxes of about 65k.
Kids going to local school
Both of us have been associated with a grassroots organisation as observers for last 3 years
PR for 9 years and in Singapore for last 11 years. Own a house here.
Do we stand any chance?
Like what SMS has said you have a good chance of around 60-70%

What do you and your spouse work as and in which industry?

Few -ve's

Age
Ethnicity
High salary - so it may hint that you may relocate easily, but you have shown that you are different and have stayed here for 11 years.

But, I personally feel you may get it. Good luck !
Thanks Singaporeflyer. Both of us are Bankers. I work with a local bank and while my wife works with a foreign bank.
My quick 2cts.

If you don't manage to get it, take heart that you're not alone. A handful of MDs of Indian nationality [in banking] that I know of did not get their applications approved.

Perhaps it's the reduced quotas. Nobody knows for certain.

Of late, there's a lot of attention on bankers from the subcontinent. Am sure you're well aware of that.

Given that the groundswell is on "localizing the banking fraternity", dishing out PRs and Citizenships to banking professionals might give the impression that this is another "loophole" waiting to be exploited.

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Re: Citizenship application

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 26 Aug 2020 5:12 pm

Can thank Ho Ching for that.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Re: Citizenship application

Post by Sginsgp5 » Mon, 28 Jun 2021 11:48 am

21 months and still counting. No result yet.

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Re: Citizenship application

Post by Shrren » Thu, 08 Jul 2021 11:43 am

Ours will be 24 months in 1 week.. still no update

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Re: Citizenship application

Post by Rnsgpr » Fri, 09 Jul 2021 12:51 am

Hi,
I would like to hear the chances of my Citizenship applications.


This time the main applicant is my wife (Indian). She moved to Singapore when she was 11. Since 2001 till 2015 she was fathers dependent PR. Graduated from NUS. 2015 got her independent PR status and got it recently renewed. She is working in a local insurance firm in IT. She is 31 years now. Her parents living in Singapore PR.

Myself Indian living in Singapore since 2008. got my PR 2015 (independent). Spent long time in Banks in IT. Recently changed to a Fintech. Combined income around 300K. I’m 40 years.

Married 2013. Two daughters toddler born in Singapore. Bought a property in 2017.

2 times got rejection earlier and I was the main applicant.

Appreciate your feedback.

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Re: Citizenship application

Post by singaporeflyer » Fri, 09 Jul 2021 9:11 am

Rnsgpr wrote:
Fri, 09 Jul 2021 12:51 am
Hi,
I would like to hear the chances of my Citizenship applications.


This time the main applicant is my wife (Indian). She moved to Singapore when she was 11. Since 2001 till 2015 she was fathers dependent PR. Graduated from NUS. 2015 got her independent PR status and got it recently renewed. She is working in a local insurance firm in IT. She is 31 years now. Her parents living in Singapore PR.

Myself Indian living in Singapore since 2008. got my PR 2015 (independent). Spent long time in Banks in IT. Recently changed to a Fintech. Combined income around 300K. I’m 40 years.

Married 2013. Two daughters toddler born in Singapore. Bought a property in 2017.

2 times got rejection earlier and I was the main applicant.

Appreciate your feedback.


What are the education details of the applicants and individual salaries?

when was the last rejection?
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Re: Citizenship application

Post by Rnsgpr » Fri, 09 Jul 2021 10:39 am

Thanks @singaporeflyer

My wife holds Bachelor degree in IT and computing from NUS.
My self Bachelor Computers.
Income 80 and 200k respectively

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Re: Citizenship application

Post by Rnsgpr » Fri, 09 Jul 2021 10:40 am

I was the main applicant last time got rejection around 2019.

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