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LTVP or DP for same-sex unmarried couples?

Post by hongkid » Sun, 02 Aug 2020 3:08 pm

My application for an EP has recently been approved. I have an unmarried, same-sex partner who doesn't have a job in Singapore, but is hoping to be able to stay with me short-term when I relocate there. Given the COVID situation, it seems unlikely that Singapore will open the borders anytime soon to visitors. I also understand that same-sex partnerships aren't recognized by the Singaporean government, and that the chances of my partner visiting are probably slim. But I'm curious whether it'd be advisable to broach the topic of a Dependent Pass or Long Term Visit Pass with the HR of my school--I hadn't brought this up before, as I'd assumed that it's impossible to get one for LGBT couples. Any suggestion is appreciated.

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Post by PNGMK » Sun, 02 Aug 2020 9:00 pm

You can do a DP for a ghey partner. You really need to come from a country though that recognizes ghey partners (it's sort of a reciprocal thing I believe). I don't think LTVP will work.

Note - it's not just a ghey thing - same issue applies to defacto normie relationships - those from Asia don't get it generally as those relationships are not recognised as legal in their home countries.
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Post by kryse.ynieto » Tue, 12 Jan 2021 12:14 pm

PNGMK wrote:
Sun, 02 Aug 2020 9:00 pm
You can do a DP for a ghey partner. You really need to come from a country though that recognizes ghey partners (it's sort of a reciprocal thing I believe). I don't think LTVP will work.

Note - it's not just a ghey thing - same issue applies to defacto normie relationships - those from Asia don't get it generally as those relationships are not recognised as legal in their home countries.
Hi there, can I ask if you know any immigration lawyer that can help us with this? My partner has just gotten his EP approved, but the immigration partner, Fragomen were basically just saying the same thing that's online - that, I cannot apply for a dependent's visa although we are legally married in San Francisco.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 12 Jan 2021 1:02 pm

At the end of the the day, the ICA is a law unto themselves, much like the US IRS or ICE. When did you get married in SF?

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Post by PNGMK » Tue, 12 Jan 2021 3:14 pm

Fragomen aren't that good IME but I concur with SMS, it's really up to ICA and is not a legal area as much as a regulations area (i.e. out of scope of the law but within scope of the department to decide).
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 13 Jan 2021 4:07 pm

The reason I asked when did they get married, if it is extremely recent, ICA will probably see it solely as a reason to subvert the occasional practice here, e.g., much the same as the way they view newlyweds from certain Asian Countries (marriages of convenience).

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Post by kryse.ynieto » Sat, 16 Jan 2021 2:26 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Tue, 12 Jan 2021 1:02 pm
At the end of the the day, the ICA is a law unto themselves, much like the US IRS or ICE. When did you get married in SF?
Hi there. Sorry for the late posts. We've been married for 2.5 years now.

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Post by kryse.ynieto » Sat, 16 Jan 2021 2:27 am

PNGMK wrote:
Tue, 12 Jan 2021 3:14 pm
Fragomen aren't that good IME but I concur with SMS, it's really up to ICA and is not a legal area as much as a regulations area (i.e. out of scope of the law but within scope of the department to decide).
Fragomen is really awful. Have you got any other recommendations from your experience?

BTW, thanks so much for all of you taking the time to respond. Appreciate it!

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Re: LTVP or DP for same-sex unmarried couples?

Post by Sm.Tn » Tue, 09 Feb 2021 10:32 am

Hi

Does anyone have any success of applying DP for same sex, legally married spouse in 2020 / 2021?
And how that is done?

Thanks!

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Re: LTVP or DP for same-sex unmarried couples?

Post by osx86lvr » Tue, 09 Feb 2021 1:05 pm

Better break up with your partner before coming to Singapore. I knew 3 American gay couples who came to Singapore. All three broke up because one had a job, the partner never got a job and was treated as a second grade alien. And all the three cases, they broke up within 2-3 years after arriving in Singapore after having lived for a decade in US together.

Also know an American lesbian couple who had a baby together. The birth certificate of the baby essentially reads "illegitimate child of a single mom".

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