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rejecting PR?

Post by russelmor » Sat, 01 Aug 2020 1:09 pm

hi guys, i really need your help here

so basically earlier this year i applied for pr as a student (im currently in jc) and i just received the IPA letter yesterday, which means that ive just been granted pr. initially my parents were a bit reluctant but were okay with me applying for pr, hence i went ahead and applied, but now they are pretty upset as basically they dont want me to waste 2 years serving ns

now my question: can i reject the pr offer by not doing the PR formalities? will i get into trouble by doing that? im really in a difficult situation as i really want to be a pr and dont mind doing ns but at the same time my parents are now really opposed to that idea and i cant do the formality since i need their help to make the payment.

I'd really appreciate any help now, thank you!

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Post by jamie9vardy » Sat, 01 Aug 2020 1:37 pm

russelmor wrote:hi guys, i really need your help here

so basically earlier this year i applied for pr as a student (im currently in jc) and i just received the IPA letter yesterday, which means that ive just been granted pr. initially my parents were a bit reluctant but were okay with me applying for pr, hence i went ahead and applied, but now they are pretty upset as basically they dont want me to waste 2 years serving ns

now my question: can i reject the pr offer by not doing the PR formalities? will i get into trouble by doing that? im really in a difficult situation as i really want to be a pr and dont mind doing ns but at the same time my parents are now really opposed to that idea and i cant do the formality since i need their help to make the payment.

I'd really appreciate any help now, thank you!
I think by rejecting it is as good as telling Singapore and ICA Foxtrot Oscar. This will live long in their memories. You may have difficulties in getting man EP if you plan to work in SG after you complete your studies, let alone another PR approval in the future.

So, no one can really help you here. You need to sort this out with your parents and convince them.

If you don’t mind, what your nationality?
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Re: rejecting PR?

Post by russelmor » Sat, 01 Aug 2020 2:08 pm

thanks for the reply!
yeah honestly i really wanna stay in sg and i'll try to convince them. but in the event that i cant convince them, can i reject the pr by not doing the formality? i'd expect that to be the consequences but i was just wondering if it's possible to reject the pr. im indonesian btw
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Re: rejecting PR?

Post by PNGMK » Sat, 01 Aug 2020 2:30 pm

Just don't complete the formalities
I not lawyer/teacher/CPA.
You've been arrested? Law Society of Singapore can provide referrals.
You want an International School job? School website or http://www.ISS.edu
Your rugrat needs a School? Avoid for profit schools
You need Tax advice? Ask a CPA
You ran away without doing NS? Shame on you!

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Re: rejecting PR?

Post by russelmor » Sat, 01 Aug 2020 2:39 pm

thank you for the reply!

ah i see, will the ica contact me or do i need to inform them?

sigh really hope i can convince my parents...

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Post by jamie9vardy » Sat, 01 Aug 2020 2:47 pm

Think they’ll send you a reminder letter. Just let it slide. Don’t think you need to inform them to explicitly reject the PR.

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Post by russelmor » Sat, 01 Aug 2020 2:58 pm

hello, thank you for your reply. yeah that makes sense. is rejecting pr (not giving up pr) something common? i tried looking around but cant find any similar threads

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Post by jamie9vardy » Sat, 01 Aug 2020 3:19 pm

russelmor wrote:hello, thank you for your reply. yeah that makes sense. is rejecting pr (not giving up pr) something common? i tried looking around but cant find any similar threads
It’s rare but we have seen a few on this forum before, and it’s usually NS obligations related.

Here you are not taking up the PR approval while hundreds come here to ask why they were rejected and how to enhance their chances.

Such is life isn’t it? The irony...


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Re: rejecting PR?

Post by russelmor » Sat, 01 Aug 2020 3:45 pm

that's exactly what i was thinking - im here asking a question on how to reject something that many here are desperate for. It does make me sad that i have to reject it even though im willing to serve ns and it probably means that i wont be able to stay here permanently in the future. Anyway thank you for your help! I really do appreciate it.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 02 Aug 2020 12:53 am

Are your parents PRs? I believe you will have a problem as an Indonesian Male with doing NS in Singapore if you are not planning on taking up citizenship in Singapore. Some sort of Indonesian Law. You might want to investigate that before you do anything else. Here are two good, but lengthy threads dealing with Indonesians and their laws vrs Singapore. Read carefully. The third link is a good example of what a male who was kept on an LTVP or Student Pass instead of taking up PR. This particular example is very well known to me as I worked for the father for 14 years till I retired last year (Mother is a PR, father is an SGC card carrying PAP member).

viewtopic.php?t=117108
viewtopic.php?t=92328
viewtopic.php?t=128254 (particularly viewtopic.php?p=802773#p802773 but starting at the beginning would be best.

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Re: rejecting PR?

Post by russelmor » Sun, 02 Aug 2020 8:14 am

hello,
nope my parents aren't PRs, i was the only one who applied for PR. yeah i think it is illegal, but a lot of indonesians have done ns and never got caught, so i assume that as long as the indo govt doesn't find out i should be fine

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Post by vig.srinivasan93 » Sun, 02 Aug 2020 9:43 am

I think rejecting PR will not be a good idea. You may have to forget Singapore as a place to work and prosper needs to be forgotten for ever. I know one Indian SC who did (actual mistake he did I forgot), said to me long back that he is feeling the heat and really feeling why he did it? So better do NS and further NS, I feel should be taken with Positive thinking.

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Re: rejecting PR?

Post by MADINA » Sun, 02 Aug 2020 10:56 am

Those who really and whole heartedly want to stay in SG dont get approval quickly, thats when this post is really :(
I hope you reconsider rejecting your approval like the advices given..

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Re: rejecting PR?

Post by kurtisnet » Sun, 02 Aug 2020 12:58 pm

russelmor wrote:
Sun, 02 Aug 2020 8:14 am
hello,
nope my parents aren't PRs, i was the only one who applied for PR. yeah i think it is illegal, but a lot of indonesians have done ns and never got caught, so i assume that as long as the indo govt doesn't find out i should be fine
Hi, please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you need to serve NS if you're the first generation PR right? I'm not sure what scheme you applied under though.

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Re: rejecting PR?

Post by jamie9vardy » Sun, 02 Aug 2020 1:05 pm

kurtisnet wrote:Hi, please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you need to serve NS if you're the first generation PR right? I'm not sure what scheme you applied under though.
Foreign Student scheme

‘Main applicants who are granted PR status as a Foreign Student or under their parents’ sponsorship are required to register for NS upon reaching 16 1⁄2 years old and will be scheduled for enlistment at the earliest opportunity upon reaching 18 years old’

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