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Covid19's going to be around for a while?

Post by abbby » Sat, 18 Jul 2020 1:35 pm

The numbers improve, then it gets worse, and improve again...same in so many countries..

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Post by PNGMK » Mon, 20 Jul 2020 8:39 am

We have years for this to run. Spanish flu took three years to burn out and this is the same. I doubt there will be a highly effective long lasting vaccine as well.
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Post by Wd40 » Tue, 21 Jul 2020 5:59 pm

Looking at the second wave in Hong Kong, I think Singapore will be cautious in opening up. So WFH is here to stay for a long time I guess :)

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Post by PNGMK » Tue, 21 Jul 2020 7:20 pm

Wd40 wrote:
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Looking at the second wave in Hong Kong, I think Singapore will be cautious in opening up. So WFH is here to stay for a long time I guess :)
It's coming.
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Post by PNGMK » Tue, 21 Jul 2020 10:35 pm

7 years is the current predicted time it will take to burn through.
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Post by taxico » Wed, 22 Jul 2020 12:19 am

7 years' gonna put a damper on some of my plans...!
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Post by BBCDoc » Wed, 22 Jul 2020 1:04 pm

I’ve made considerably more investments into my home office and kitchen in anticipation.

If only we can grow more herbs...

As Long as we continue to deal with a global circus unable to make firm decisions on face masks and isolation, this will be a rinse-and-repeat game.

The moment someone who took a vaccine contracts it again (perhaps the rushed vaccine not so good), the world will shit themselves and we run out of toilet paper again...


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Post by PNGMK » Wed, 22 Jul 2020 1:20 pm

Well it seems that Trump might be finally wising up.
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Post by Wd40 » Wed, 22 Jul 2020 3:38 pm

taxico wrote:
Wed, 22 Jul 2020 12:19 am
7 years' gonna put a damper on some of my plans...!
The airline and tourism industry will be screwed.

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Post by PNGMK » Wed, 22 Jul 2020 5:14 pm

Wd40 wrote:
Wed, 22 Jul 2020 3:38 pm
taxico wrote:
Wed, 22 Jul 2020 12:19 am
7 years' gonna put a damper on some of my plans...!
The airline and tourism industry will be screwed.
Singapore is trying to pivot away from those...
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Post by taxico » Thu, 23 Jul 2020 1:35 pm

PNGMK wrote:
Wed, 22 Jul 2020 5:14 pm
Wd40 wrote:
Wed, 22 Jul 2020 3:38 pm

The airline and tourism industry will be screwed.
Singapore is trying to pivot away from those...
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Post by Max Headroom » Fri, 24 Jul 2020 12:48 pm

And MICE.

It's going to be a bloodbath. In fact, if ever there was an event worthy of the phrase "slow-motion train wreck", this is it.

Not just here of course - worldwide.

The good thing about small, agile, well-governed countries like Singapore is that they can turn on a dime, relatively speaking. I'd hate to be Jokowi right now, or whoever is in power in Malaysia this month.

AI, nano, fintech, crypto; 3-5 years from now, living in Singapore will be like an episode of The Jetsons.


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Post by tt1973 » Fri, 24 Jul 2020 4:38 pm

The entire world will be badly hit by COVID19, I figured this will continue into 2021. This new norm of mask wearing, social distancing with be with us for a long, long time.

Pity the US, when they elect a clown to lead them, you have a circus for the world to watch in disbelief.

It will be hard for retail, tourism, airline industries to recover from this. When the dust has settled, many companies will be shutting down, millions of jobs lost.

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Post by BigginHill » Sat, 25 Jul 2020 11:36 pm

PNGMK wrote:
Tue, 21 Jul 2020 10:35 pm
7 years is the current predicted time it will take to burn through.
My estimate is 3 years, for a non-vaccine scenario. That's how long the spanish flu took for its burn.

At that point in time, we'll gradually and eventually "let go" to let the virus run its course through the global population, keeping the vulnerable groups specifically protected.

There is no "new normal" in the long run.

Eventually the economy needs to pick up. We can't restrict ourselves indefinitely.

Eventually people will want to breathe air without a mask, go to education, go to events, travel freely and socialise with their fellow human beings like we've done for the past 300,000 years etc.

With new & existing antivirals, we can probably suppress global fatality rates significantly, but eventually we will need to face it.

I am, however, positive about developments in:

1. Vaccine
2. Effective antivirals
3. Introduction of near-instant COVID-19 testing

Combined, these will turn the tide. I believe we'll get a clear picture within the next 6-12 mths.

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Post by BigginHill » Sat, 08 Aug 2020 2:15 pm

Bill G believe we should see the end of COVID-19 by the end of 2021.

https://www.wired.com/story/bill-gates- ... y-garbage/

And that makes me feel like, for the rich world, we should largely be able to end this thing by the end of 2021, and for the world at large by the end of 2022.

Sounds plausible to me.

Apparently it seems SARS-CoV-2 does have the characteristics of a virus for which a workable vaccine can "likely" be designed. And with the sheer number (+200) of vaccine candidates being developed concurrently, again, perfectly plausible for at least a handful to be proven effective for mass inoculation.

Give it another 6-12mths to identify the workable vaccine(s), then start rolling them out autumn 2021.

So there you go.

Go ahead & book your Bali trip for Christmas 2021.

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