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Re: REP Not Renewed PR Status?

Post by singaporeflyer » Wed, 16 Dec 2020 10:54 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
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It still needs to be renewed every 5 years. Whether or not you need to be employed or not if your PR was on the PTS scheme I'm not aware of, however, if you are on the Family Ties PR, after the age of 55 you do not need a job. I just renewed my REP in Sept after I turned 73.
SMS, you have strong local ties with respect to your family :) So, renewal is guaranteed.

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Re: REP Not Renewed PR Status?

Post by malcontent » Thu, 17 Dec 2020 12:03 am

My wife got her PR thru her parents, and the parents got theirs thru an investment scheme back in the 80’s (similar to GIP today, but a whole lot less investment back then). Does that mean she can retire at 55?
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Re: REP Not Renewed PR Status?

Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 17 Dec 2020 8:47 am

malcontent wrote:
Thu, 17 Dec 2020 12:03 am
My wife got her PR thru her parents, and the parents got theirs thru an investment scheme back in the 80’s (similar to GIP today, but a whole lot less investment back then). Does that mean she can retire at 55?
Should be OK in my view.

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Re: REP Not Renewed PR Status?

Post by ProvenPracticalFlexible » Thu, 17 Dec 2020 8:56 am

Are you guys sure about that it's still 55 when the minimum retirement age has been raised to 62? And is going up slowly to 68 by 2030 or something like that.

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Re: REP Not Renewed PR Status?

Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 17 Dec 2020 9:07 am

ProvenPracticalFlexible wrote:
Thu, 17 Dec 2020 8:56 am
Are you guys sure about that it's still 55 when the minimum retirement age has been raised to 62? And is going up slowly to 68 by 2030 or something like that.
I mean't can retire at a specific age and continue to renew REP. Exact age, lets wait for someone to confirm.

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Re: REP Not Renewed PR Status?

Post by malcontent » Thu, 17 Dec 2020 12:32 pm

Does family ties PR apply to anyone who got PR through a relationship to some other PR who got it from PTS/GIS/etc? Does there ever come a time when a family ties PR has to meet the prevailing criteria to keep their PR, and if so is the criteria related back to the original PR?

Rumor has it that those who originally received PR under GIS either need to be physically present in Singapore for 6 months or more in a year, or employ at least 5 Singaporeans. But again, not sure what prevailing criteria for approval is applied beyond the original PR.
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Re: REP Not Renewed PR Status?

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 17 Dec 2020 3:22 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Wed, 16 Dec 2020 10:54 pm
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Wed, 16 Dec 2020 10:28 pm
It still needs to be renewed every 5 years. Whether or not you need to be employed or not if your PR was on the PTS scheme I'm not aware of, however, if you are on the Family Ties PR, after the age of 55 you do not need a job. I just renewed my REP in Sept after I turned 73.
SMS, you have strong local ties with respect to your family :) So, renewal is guaranteed.
That is why it's called the Family Ties Scheme. ;-)

viewtopic.php?p=708731#p708731

Further to that, yes, you are required to have valid employment if you are on the PTS scheme.

https://www.ica.gov.sg/docs/default-sou ... tesrep.pdf

Sadly, I have no current information on the intricacies of the GIS scheme, but I cannot see it having any weightage with the family ties option. Maybe a call to MAS will provide some further information?
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Re: REP Not Renewed PR Status?

Post by Skidmarkz » Tue, 26 Apr 2022 1:57 am

Hi guys I need suggestion or feedback based on your experience.
I have been overseas since 2020 (just before covid pandemic time). And I just accepted job offer to be stationed overseas from a SG company which will contribute to my CPF as well. Since my REP would expire by end of this Sept and I would visit SG in July, do you guys think I have a chance to get 5yrs REP renewal? Out of 5yrs, iam lacking of 2yrs plus of being presence in Sg. Iam thinking to renew my Rep when iam in Sg later.
And what questions do they ask when renewing REP online?
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Re: REP Not Renewed PR Status?

Post by PNGMK » Tue, 26 Apr 2022 7:29 am

You should be ok as this is a clear case of overseas secondment which is the exception commonly permitted. There are no questions really in the online renewal as the data is pulled backend by gahmen. In your current role have you been contributing cpf and filing taxes here?
I not lawyer/teacher/CPA.
You've been arrested? Law Society of Singapore can provide referrals.
You want an International School job? School website or http://www.ISS.edu
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Re: REP Not Renewed PR Status?

Post by Skidmarkz » Thu, 28 Apr 2022 1:39 am

Hi I finally managed to renew my REP for 1 yr only 🙏🙏
But I have to be in overseas Station again and still consistently contribute Cpf.

I wonder if I can get 5yrs next year

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Tue, 26 Apr 2022 7:29 am
You should be ok as this is a clear case of overseas secondment which is the exception commonly permitted. There are no questions really in the online renewal as the data is pulled backend by gahmen. In your current role have you been contributing cpf and filing taxes here?
Hi bro yes I have been contributing my first cpf since covid pandemics, but I have been away since 2020. Iam not sure if ICA will reject or extend my REP for 1 or 5yrs.
Do you know what questions they ask during the REP online renewal? It's hard to get good job at this moment though. I will keep my fingers crossed to get my REP renewed.

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Re: REP Not Renewed PR Status?

Post by Skidmarkz » Thu, 10 Nov 2022 3:06 am

Hi guys just want to let you know I already got 1yr extension for my REP last July. But after that I would have to go to overseas again. But I have been contributing Cpf since April 2022. Maybe that's the reason why I got only 1yr extension not 5yrs due to inconsistency of Cpf contribution (just 3months Cpf then renewed REP).
Not sure if July 2023 I will be able to get 5yrs or 1yrs again.

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Thu, 28 Apr 2022 1:39 am
Hi I finally managed to renew my REP for 1 yr only 🙏🙏
But I have to be in overseas Station again and still consistently contribute Cpf.

I wonder if I can get 5yrs next year

PNGMK wrote:
Tue, 26 Apr 2022 7:29 am
You should be ok as this is a clear case of overseas secondment which is the exception commonly permitted. There are no questions really in the online renewal as the data is pulled backend by gahmen. In your current role have you been contributing cpf and filing taxes here?
Hi bro yes I have been contributing my first cpf since covid pandemics, but I have been away since 2020. Iam not sure if ICA will reject or extend my REP for 1 or 5yrs.
Do you know what questions they ask during the REP online renewal? It's hard to get good job at this moment though. I will keep my fingers crossed to get my REP renewed.

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Re: REP Not Renewed PR Status?

Post by PNGMK » Thu, 10 Nov 2022 4:41 am

No you got 1 year because you are not resident in Singapore numbnuts.
I not lawyer/teacher/CPA.
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Re: REP Not Renewed PR Status?

Post by mystic_river » Thu, 10 Nov 2022 8:00 am

I have come across 2 different friends in the past year alone whose PR got extended by just 1 year only. 1 was overseas on a secondment (employed by an SG entity and on SG payroll) and the other was overseas for further studies.

Both were essentially told via email that their REP will only be renewed for 5 years once they come back to Singapore for good. It is why they give you a one year REP to see if you’ve settled back in SG.

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Re: REP Not Renewed PR Status?

Post by Skidmarkz » Wed, 21 Feb 2024 6:43 pm

mystic_river wrote:
Thu, 10 Nov 2022 8:00 am
I have come across 2 different friends in the past year alone whose PR got extended by just 1 year only. 1 was overseas on a secondment (employed by an SG entity and on SG payroll) and the other was overseas for further studies.

Both were essentially told via email that their REP will only be renewed for 5 years once they come back to Singapore for good. It is why they give you a one year REP to see if you’ve settled back in SG.
Hi do you know how long a person needs to stay inside SG before renewing REP to get 5 yrs after given 1yr renewal?

I have been in SG for around almost 3months. But iam able to renew it 3 months earlier from Jun 2024.

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Re: REP Not Renewed PR Status?

Post by singaporeflyer » Fri, 23 Feb 2024 10:42 am

Skidmarkz wrote:
Wed, 21 Feb 2024 6:43 pm
mystic_river wrote:
Thu, 10 Nov 2022 8:00 am
I have come across 2 different friends in the past year alone whose PR got extended by just 1 year only. 1 was overseas on a secondment (employed by an SG entity and on SG payroll) and the other was overseas for further studies.

Both were essentially told via email that their REP will only be renewed for 5 years once they come back to Singapore for good. It is why they give you a one year REP to see if you’ve settled back in SG.
Hi do you know how long a person needs to stay inside SG before renewing REP to get 5 yrs after given 1yr renewal?

I have been in SG for around almost 3months. But iam able to renew it 3 months earlier from Jun 2024.
If you want a good chance, stay and work the full 12 months in SG and try to renew after 11th month completion.

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