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Re: PAP vs WP. WP now hold 10 seats.

Post by the observer » Mon, 07 Sep 2020 10:57 am

PNGMK wrote:
Mon, 07 Sep 2020 10:49 am
the observer wrote:
Mon, 07 Sep 2020 8:42 am
https://www.mom.gov.sg/documents-and-pu ... ce-numbers

There's only around 200k EP and 200k S-Pass holders or so. Not exactly millions, is it.

Unless you think that construction workers and blue collars are being resented by the online mob as well. I highly doubt it.
There are only ~3MM local born SC. Even less if you trace back a few gen. There are a LOT of imported SC/SPR.
Well for one, that i can think of, there wasn't any avenue in the past for such views to fester.

The online mob grew mainly from the advent of technology.

Edit: Actually to think of it, populism has been on the rise since FB/Social media got big.
- The commonly cited examples are Brexit and Trump.
- Nobody pointed out that in 2014, it was Hindu Nationalism [populism?] that led to Modi's rise.
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Re: PAP vs WP. WP now hold 10 seats.

Post by Wd40 » Mon, 07 Sep 2020 11:22 am

the observer wrote:
Mon, 07 Sep 2020 8:42 am
https://www.mom.gov.sg/documents-and-pu ... ce-numbers

There's only around 200k EP and 200k S-Pass holders or so. Not exactly millions, is it.

Unless you think that construction workers and blue collars are being resented by the online mob as well. I highly doubt it.
I was counting the dependents as well. When you send back an EP holder, typically the trailing spouse and 1 or 2 kids also leave. Leaving vacant rentals and school places. So there are implications of such sudden moves.

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Re: PAP vs WP. WP now hold 10 seats.

Post by BigginHill » Sun, 11 Oct 2020 10:38 am

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/ ... hem-survey

Looks like 49% doesn't care about foreigners in Singapore either way ("neutral"), so that's not a negative.

What caught my attention, is 1 out of 5 of the general population (1 out of 3 among the unemployed) thinks Singapore should revert to a purely domestic economy. (pre-1819 presumably)

"It is better for Singapore not to be a regional hub, so we can reduce the number of foreigners, even if this means fewer job opportunities for Singaporeans"

Isn't this in line with SDP's & several other opposition parties policy?

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Re: PAP vs WP. WP now hold 10 seats.

Post by PNGMK » Mon, 12 Oct 2020 11:49 am

Yes SDP and PVP etc are all anti foreigner. Quite unrealistic and short sighted as it will only appeal to a smaller % of their voter base.
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Post by BigginHill » Sun, 08 Nov 2020 3:04 pm

LHL may stay on as PM, if CV-19 drags into 2024-25...(God forbid on that last part)

https://www.asiaone.com/singapore/pm-le ... akumar?amp

Singapore must surely have one of the most conservative styles of leadership transition in the entire developed World.

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Post by Wd40 » Sun, 08 Nov 2020 11:27 pm

We went to Vivocity and Sentosa yesterday. Vivocity was quite buzzing while sentosa was very quiet. I think Singapore needs to start transitioning towards internal consumption, than relying on tourists. Tourists may not comeback for a while. In the meantime, it is the residents who should be incentivized to go to out and spend.

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Post by PNGMK » Mon, 09 Nov 2020 2:13 pm

^ not to boast but I've gone from saving around 5k a month pre Covid to close to 12k a month. There just isn't that much to spend it on domestically? New car? Bleh. New house? No thanks. Share? Meh. The only thing we so spend lot more on is that we now eat out at least two times a week in more upmarket places. I figure that our summer holidays normally cost about 12k so I'm ok spending $500 or more a month extra on good food in good restaraunts. I'm truly experiencing deflation for the first time in my life.
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Post by bro75 » Mon, 09 Nov 2020 4:24 pm

Our expenses are quite low these days and we are saving more. This is bad for the economy in general.

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Post by midlet2013 » Mon, 09 Nov 2020 5:54 pm

Our savings increased a lot too recently and investments did well too. Although I hope C19 is over soon.

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Post by PNGMK » Tue, 10 Nov 2020 7:41 am

bro75 wrote:
Mon, 09 Nov 2020 4:24 pm
Our expenses are quite low these days and we are saving more. This is bad for the economy in general.
I'm thinking of doing a boat skipper's license here and buying a used boat just to get out a bit more... I'd have never considered that pre Covid.
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Post by Wd40 » Tue, 10 Nov 2020 9:43 am

I track my monthly expenses and savings in an excel sheet, since last 6 years now.
Last 12 months total expense = 47.7k
Previous 12 months total expense = 57.5k

I am naturally frugal person, and even I managed to save 10k in last 12 months, over same prior period!

Once we cross december period, this gap will increase even more, because, I will have full 12 months with no vacation. Our last vacation was in December.

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Re: PAP vs WP. WP now hold 10 seats.

Post by BigginHill » Sat, 05 Dec 2020 12:08 pm

BigginHill wrote:
Mon, 13 Jul 2020 3:18 pm
I can't believe how small a margin (53.41%) saved the next PM designate from getting kicked out of parliament (& government)...
HSK slowly being sidelined for PM post...

"It raises questions over whether Mr Heng will succeed Mr Lee “in the fullness of time”

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/si ... t-13681156

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