Cautiously calculating chances....PR...maybe?

[jamie9vardy]

@subconwretch thank you for the input!! My partner is Singaporean Chinese though ahahaha

I'm so glad. Thank you for not reinforcing the stereotype!

because 9 out of 10 of them, even though have studied JC or university locally in SG, will still end up with someone from the motherland, maybe arranged by the parents. We see this far too often on this board.


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[subconwretch]

Hello everyone!

I've been lurking on this forum for quite a while now, and have been reading everyone's interactions. It's been very illuminating to read all the information!

I have been contemplating applying for PR but am fully cognisant of COVID-19, and the upcoming GE, and how all of that could affect everything. I do not have plans to apply immediately, but sort of just wanted to check things out and get a sense of where I stand.

A big thank you in advance for anyone who takes the time to read and respond!

So, about myself:

Nationality [yeeeep, aware that it's probably a disadvantage]: Indian
Gender and Age: Female, 25
Education: Attended a local SG university for undergrad, 4 year course
Been in the workforce: Slightly over 2 years, paid taxes....twice? {will double-check}
Total number of years in SG: Nearly 7 years
Industry: Public relations, marketing
Salary: 3k+

Not sure if there are any other details I should include? Do let me know and I will try my best to provide.

If you've been granted an EP, and can near about hit the minimums, the income criteria has been taken care of.

You should know that if they study in a local University, they will be eligible for EP with slightly lesser restrictions/salary than the requirement. You cannot assume that to say that salary / income criteria has been taken care of. The OP will find it tough when she changes job and there is no letter from the university for helping for the new EP.

@OP, are you saying you are married? if not, partner does not count. If you are married and he sponsors you for PR after atleast 2 years of marriage and he has good financial standing, then it will make a difference to your PR application.

Yes sir. I've indeed seen it all first hand, through good times and bad. The EP eligibility letter used to be automatic, but is no longer a given. And it certainly does not say anything about lesser salary requirements (even though it may be assumed to imply), just that they are eligible. Getting a new EP from MOM on a low salary after the 3 year period may be tough, but may not necessarily be so for PR applications.

Then again, you and I can only speak based on observations and evidence in our personal circles and the posts gathered here while the exact reality still remains as unknown as ever.

[littlegal]

@subconwretch thank you for the input!! My partner is Singaporean Chinese though ahahaha

I'm so glad. Thank you for not reinforcing the stereotype!

HAHHHAHAHAHAHA I try I try :'D

[singaporeflyer]

If you've been granted an EP, and can near about hit the minimums, the income criteria has been taken care of.

You should know that if they study in a local University, they will be eligible for EP with slightly lesser restrictions/salary than the requirement. You cannot assume that to say that salary / income criteria has been taken care of. The OP will find it tough when she changes job and there is no letter from the university for helping for the new EP.

@OP, are you saying you are married? if not, partner does not count. If you are married and he sponsors you for PR after atleast 2 years of marriage and he has good financial standing, then it will make a difference to your PR application.

Yes sir. I've indeed seen it all first hand, through good times and bad. The EP eligibility letter used to be automatic, but is no longer a given. And it certainly does not say anything about lesser salary requirements (even though it may be assumed to imply), just that they are eligible. Getting a new EP from MOM on a low salary after the 3 year period may be tough, but may not necessarily be so for PR applications.

Then again, you and I can only speak based on observations and evidence in our personal circles and the posts gathered here while the exact reality still remains as unknown as ever.

OK

[subconwretch]

@subconwretch thank you for the input!! My partner is Singaporean Chinese though ahahaha

I'm so glad. Thank you for not reinforcing the stereotype!

because 9 out of 10 of them, even though have studied JC or university locally in SG, will still end up with someone from the motherland, maybe arranged by the parents. We see this far too often on this board.


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You're spot on in catching my thoughts!
If I only could have a dollar for every time i cringed looking at posts with such profiles asking how ICA determines if they are integrated in society, if volunteering, donating blood and such helps.

The integration factor is way more obvious than most applicants seem to believe.

You can even spot it early on among foreign students in local universities. Between those who flock with others of the same feather Vs those who (sometimes actively) don't. I believe the effect of those formative years more than overshadows any parent factor.

[littlegal]

@subconwretch thank you for the input!! My partner is Singaporean Chinese though ahahaha

I'm so glad. Thank you for not reinforcing the stereotype!

because 9 out of 10 of them, even though have studied JC or university locally in SG, will still end up with someone from the motherland, maybe arranged by the parents. We see this far too often on this board.


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Yep, you are correct, this has been the case for most of my other peers who came to Singapore with me as my batchmates or juniors. The whole community tends to get a bit incestuous after a while, and I started to feel like I was stuck in a weird echo chamber. I broke away and found my own people.

The question of defying mummy and daddy does not even arise in most cases lol. I guess I got lucky because my parents tend to be quite distant when it comes to things like choosing a partner, they see it as trivial in the grand scheme of things.

[hopeislife]

I'm so glad. Thank you for not reinforcing the stereotype!

because 9 out of 10 of them, even though have studied JC or university locally in SG, will still end up with someone from the motherland, maybe arranged by the parents. We see this far too often on this board.

Choosing where your life partner comes from and that resulting in marriage is not always in your hands. If someone is lucky to find a local partner while studying here that suits his/her likes then happy for him/her. But it is silly to say its a stereotype when person 'A' who studied here marries someone from the motherland. It depends on various people's circumstances and may be person 'A' might have been focused in academics or in a job that could have kept them busy. Just because he cant find a local partner does not mean he is not integrated. If the OP 'littelgal' is from other asian countries this 'stereotype' comment might not have been there, although it is still prevalent in other asian countries too. Since, she is indian, this comment to tarnish arranged marriage arises. Its all about liking between the hearts, be it love or arranged or both.

[sundaymorningstaple]

I reckon you will be defending the caste system as well before long, yeah?

[hopeislife]

I reckon you will be defending the caste system as well before long, yeah?

Of course, I wont defend and its not something to be defended. Pretty much most indians now are against that system. It has almost faded in my generation and will become extinct as the next generation comes. Arranged marriage does not equate to caste based marriage and it may not be easily understandable by a foreigner even when his partner is an indian.
I know the rest of the world might think indians are still in their caste system based on few things that happened decades ago, and still stick to that prejudice. Hope, soon they will realize it is not so. Things have changed.