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What affects chances of getting PR in Singapore?

Post by abbby » Thu, 25 Jun 2020 3:31 pm

This is one of the most popular topics and questions asked in the forum, so I thought we could consolidate some pointers for those who are seeking PR application and what are the points that are important to ICA.

Some points that could be useful..please add on if you can share.

1. Salary and position in company
2. Number of years working in Singapore
3. If you had studied in Singapore's education system ie: PSLE, O levels, A Levels
4. Any family ties in Singapore? ie: Mother is Singaporean
5. Industry that you work for (my guess is essential service sector probably most needed now, medical, transport, pharmaceutical)
6. Other contributions to the country
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What affects chances of getting PR in Singapore?

Post by jamie9vardy » Thu, 25 Jun 2020 4:29 pm

abbby wrote:This is one of the most popular topics and questions asked in the forum, so I thought we could consolidate some pointers for those who are seeking PR application and what are the points that are important to ICA.

Some points that could be useful..please add on if you can share.

1. Salary and position in company
2. Number of years working in Singapore
3. If you had studied in Singapore's education system ie: PSLE, O levels, A Levels
4. Any family ties in Singapore? ie: Mother is Singaporean
5. Industry that you work for (my guess is essential service sector probably most needed now, medical, transport, pharmaceutical)
6. Other contributions to the country
I think #1 should be nationality and race and #2 should be actual and perceived ability to integrate with SG society.


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Re: What affects chances of getting PR in Singapore?

Post by bcheng74 » Fri, 26 Jun 2020 11:00 pm

abbby wrote:This is one of the most popular topics and questions asked in the forum, so I thought we could consolidate some pointers for those who are seeking PR application and what are the points that are important to ICA.

Some points that could be useful..please add on if you can share.

1. Salary and position in company
2. Number of years working in Singapore
3. If you had studied in Singapore's education system ie: PSLE, O levels, A Levels
4. Any family ties in Singapore? ie: Mother is Singaporean
5. Industry that you work for (my guess is essential service sector probably most needed now, medical, transport, pharmaceutical)
6. Other contributions to the country
Please define point 6. I recalled someone thinks buying a sports car here is contribution to the country.


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Re: What affects chances of getting PR in Singapore?

Post by subconwretch » Sat, 27 Jun 2020 5:37 pm

jamie9vardy wrote:
Thu, 25 Jun 2020 4:29 pm
abbby wrote:This is one of the most popular topics and questions asked in the forum, so I thought we could consolidate some pointers for those who are seeking PR application and what are the points that are important to ICA.

Some points that could be useful..please add on if you can share.

1. Salary and position in company
2. Number of years working in Singapore
3. If you had studied in Singapore's education system ie: PSLE, O levels, A Levels
4. Any family ties in Singapore? ie: Mother is Singaporean
5. Industry that you work for (my guess is essential service sector probably most needed now, medical, transport, pharmaceutical)
6. Other contributions to the country
I think #1 should be nationality and race and #2 should be actual and perceived ability to integrate with SG society.


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#1 is likely nationality and race. #2 actual and perceived ability to integrate with SG society is likely true too, but how exactly this is assessed remains unknown. At how early of an age did you start living in Singapore is likely more significant than the number of years.

salary and position in company likely don't matter as much as a lot of posters here seem to feel.

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Post by jamie9vardy » Sat, 27 Jun 2020 6:24 pm

subconwretch wrote:#1 is likely nationality and race. #2 actual and perceived ability to integrate with SG society is likely true too, but how exactly this is assessed remains unknown. At how early of an age did you start living in Singapore is likely more significant than the number of years.

salary and position in company likely don't matter as much as a lot of posters here seem to feel.
That’s why so many applicants come to this board to ask about their chances and why they got rejected. But I think none of us here dare to claim that we know exactly how that’s assessed. It’s opaque for a reason.

Concurred on the point about salary and position.

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Re: What affects chances of getting PR in Singapore?

Post by bgd » Sun, 28 Jun 2020 12:19 am

Don't forget age. Isn't there a cut off, 50? Maybe earlier now?

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Post by tiktok » Sun, 28 Jun 2020 9:46 am

In any other country the government would make the criteria clear and public. But if Singapore did that, since the primary factor is race, they would face an international backlash.
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Re: What affects chances of getting PR in Singapore?

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 28 Jun 2020 12:30 pm

It has been known for at least 40 years that Singapore has always balanced the racial demographics here via immigration. They make no bones about it. This is how and why the racial percentages of it's citizens remain constant even though the TFR here is the 3rd lowest in the world and of the major races here, Chinese is TFR is the lowest and Malays the highest with Indians in the middle. However during the period of 1999 to 2011 Singapore was pushing to be an IT hub in Asia and therefore during the wind up to 31/12/1999 Indian programmers were brought here in huge droves as Singapore was worried it entire infrastructure was stop at the stroke of midnight as mainframes clicked down to that feared scenario.

Anyway, that wasn't a disaster at all, but during the first decade they continued to bring in Indian IT personnel as Singapore was still greenfield as far a local knowledge was concerned. So they continued to bring in Indian IT personnel by the '000's. This resulted in the census balance getting skewed by the loss of 2% of the Chinese demographic and an almost 3% gain in the Indian component. During the 2011 election the locals raise a shitstorm and the influx slowed down but this time those initial influx had gotten PR (easy back then) and rose in the ranks into management positions (like Hiring Managers) and were bringing in their own and not even giving locals a chance. So now we reach the 2015 elections which saw the PAP take a beating over the hiring practices. Between that and the change of demographics, the granting of PRs to Indians slowed down to a virtual trickle and it's only until about the middle of 2019 we started to see some relaxing of PR admissions again. But now We have Covid on our hands, mass business closures and job losses. Singapore cannot afford to let all and sundry into the country until they see how much economic damage has been and will be done thanks in part to Covidiots.

No. There will be no international backlash. Sorry.

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Re: What affects chances of getting PR in Singapore?

Post by subconwretch » Sun, 28 Jun 2020 1:03 pm

As for the reasons for keeping the criteria for obtaining permanent residency and citizenship opaque, Mr Shanmugam said: “We do not reveal the detailed criteria for granting (them) as it is not in our interest to do so. Revealing the detailed criteria would, among other things, create sensitivities in their countries of origin.
What sensitivities exactly is left to one's interpretation, but it is rather clear.
This is in line with the Government’s commitment to maintain the racial balance in the citizen population, as Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong stated in Parliament in 2013. This enables us to preserve social stability and the multiracial character of our society.
As any future citizen has to come from the PR pool, it is safe to assume the same applies to the PR demographics.

Sources:
https://www.gov.sg/article/what-are-the ... e-citizens
https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/s ... -shanmugam

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Post by tiktok » Sun, 28 Jun 2020 2:23 pm

Again, why don't they just come out and say "this year we will accept x of this and y of that" and save everyone the trouble of trying to guess. Other countries like Australia and Canada are totally transparent about the quotas of skills, ages and educational qualifications they will accept. The only difference is that race is a factor here.

It's one thing for them to admit they "balance racial demographics". It's quite another to be specific how they do it. Hitler did both.
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Re: What affects chances of getting PR in Singapore?

Post by tiktok » Sun, 28 Jun 2020 2:25 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Sun, 28 Jun 2020 12:30 pm
No. There will be no international backlash. Sorry.
You're wrong, sorry.
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Re: What affects chances of getting PR in Singapore?

Post by bcheng74 » Sun, 28 Jun 2020 2:33 pm

tiktok wrote:Again, why don't they just come out and say "this year we will accept x of this and y of that" and save everyone the trouble of trying to guess. Other countries like Australia and Canada are totally transparent about the quotas of skills, ages and educational qualifications they will accept. The only difference is that race is a factor here.

It's one thing for them to admit they "balance racial demographics". It's quite another to be specific how they do it. Hitler did both.
Then why don’t you go to emigrate to Australia and Canada ?


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Re: What affects chances of getting PR in Singapore?

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 28 Jun 2020 2:34 pm

tiktok wrote:
Sun, 28 Jun 2020 2:25 pm
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Sun, 28 Jun 2020 12:30 pm
No. There will be no international backlash. Sorry.
You're wrong, sorry.
Good luck with that. You've been here what? 8 months give or take and still SAF.

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Re: What affects chances of getting PR in Singapore?

Post by tiktok » Sun, 28 Jun 2020 2:38 pm

bcheng74 wrote:
Sun, 28 Jun 2020 2:33 pm
Then why don’t you go to emigrate to Australia and Canada ?
I already immigrated to one of them, that's why I know.
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Re: What affects chances of getting PR in Singapore?

Post by tiktok » Sun, 28 Jun 2020 3:08 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Sun, 28 Jun 2020 2:34 pm
Good luck with that. You've been here what? 8 months give or take and still SAF.
I already played along with the "sorry you're wrong" game. Is it my turn to insult you with some made up facts now?
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