LeeBurrow wrote: ↑Fri, 19 Jun 2020 8:02 pm
Yeah it looks like from what I'm hearing that Singapore is Casablanca for non-resident foreigners, you don't know who to trust, and you can't be protected. It's unfortunate that some took advantage of the model. I'll look elsewhere...
I'm not suggesting that you not setup your business in Singapore, just that you should do it with eyes open. I setup businesses in Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, and Hong Kong, as well as a taxation entity in Australia. Without question, Singapore is the best/easiest place to setup a business, perhaps with the exception of Hong Kong, but with the Chinese thugs taking over there, I wouldn't consider Hong Kong. Singapore is about the most honest, corruption free place you can find in Asia.
In terms of ease of setting up a business, Singapore and Hong Kong are the easiest, Malaysia not too terribly bad, especially if you can qualify your business to get into one of the enterprise zones, and Thailand is a fair pain in the ass, as well as being time consuming and requiring substantial investment. I've not done it myself but have friends who can testify that setting up businesses in Indonesia, Vietnam, or India can be an absolute labyrinth of red tape and bribes.
It used to be that every CPA in Singapore had some auntie or uncle lying about who would be happy to be your resident director (that's the key - you must have one resident director), and they would do it for about $600 per year. But then, a few of the CPA firms got seriously hammered because the companies for which they were directors were caught in illegal activities such as money laundering and tax evasion transactions. The 1MDB Malaysian scandal didn't help, and pretty soon the accounting professional organizations Singapore warned all their members about the perils of renting out directors.
The companies that continue to rent out directors believe that they can control risks to themselves by taking two approaches.
First, they will want to be your accountant, your auditor, and your secretary so that they can watch and verify each and every transaction that is made by your business. Electronic banking has turned money laundering into an art form, so they'll want bank transactions (and actually the bank will want to know all about you as well with the advent of "know your customer"... no more, "Oh, gee... I didn't know he was a corrupt Indonesian general taking bribes."). You'll have to put your contracts in front of them. They will want to approve your work permit applications. All to protect themselves from you.
For this, you will pay. I used to pay around $300 per month for accounting and financial statement preparation activities, and another $600 to $1000 for an annual audit. I've been out of Singapore for a while but I understand that companies that will provide you a director want at least $1500 per year for the director and around $1000 to $1500 per month for accounting and audit activities. You should consider these expenses against your pro forma financials.
And second, these companies will attempt to limit their liability by having you sign the kinds of documents you mentioned..."we're not responsible for this... we won't sign contracts for that." Go ahead and sign them... they don't matter if push comes to shove. I don't think you need to worry about any of these companies or directors trying to screw you on purpose... after all, the whole point of their entire interaction is to remain squeaky clean as directors.
But that doesn't mean that if they so desired, they would take actions perceived to protect themselves that could be detrimental to you. And that's why you have signed, undated resignation letters from your directors... to protect yourself... you predate the letter to resign a director before the onerous action was taken.
In short, you are well protected by Singapore law as a shareholder. WIth a reputable company, you're not going to get screwed by them except for self protection issues, and you can reduce your risk for that.
You mentioned that because these guys don't want to sign contracts, apparently believing that it limits their liability, they want you to become a director. If this happens, you go from being an investor and potentially an employee that is taxed in your home country, to being a director that is taxed in Singapore at 22 percent. If this matters to you, you should find another rented director company which doesn't require you to become a director. They exist.
I'll close with two things. First, why do you want to setup in Singapore? And not the USA, or anywhere else in the world? Yes, corporate taxes are cheap in Singapore, but 95 percent of the businesses in the USA are LLC's, pass through entities not subject to tax at all. And of course, there are the multiple "offshore" countries that setup all sorts of companies.
And finally... my definition of true pain in the ass. That was my yearly corporate tax return I had to file in Thailand. More than 240 pages long. All written in Thai. It had to be signed on every page. It was beyond amazing. Signing it took an evening and a third of a bottle of scotch.