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Re: PR Rejected

Post by singaporeflyer » Sun, 06 Sep 2020 10:08 pm

Number13000 wrote:
Sun, 06 Sep 2020 9:45 pm
Jumping on this via the topic of Eurasians. I have a PR application currently outstanding (posted in other thread for advice) and I for all intents and purposes identify as a Eurasian.

Mod mentioned this might be a stuff-up if I was not bona-fide Eurasian which leads me to ponder on ICA/G's view on Eurasian and where they fit in terms of PR application.

I have an Anglo-Saxon last name through my New-Zealand (mixed-race) father of Maori/Caucasian heritage and a Eurasian lineage through my Anglo-Indian-Portuguese mother, who grew up in Malaysia and Singapore while retaining British nationality. When I acquired my student pass and subsequent E-pass, I was both-times allowed to choose my race and chucked Eurasian as the easiest modifier. My total mix broken down (not that ICA will ever know) is 35/65 Non-White/White.

If they need documents as proof of Eurasian heritage, I can also supply as my maternal grandparents are indeed from India.

I doubt they will dig that rabbit hole, but I am not at all a Chinese or Malay creole from Malacca. There are of course, many Anglo-Indians in our peninsular history. I do not know yet if I should consider the ICA as a race scholar when interrogating my Eurasian heritage in my application...
Student Pass and Employment Pass are different than PR. In the case of PR, ICA will want to see solid proof supported by documentation, else anyone can claim to be of a particular ethnicity.

Anyway based on what you have said in your first post, your chance is likely going to be low.

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Re: PR Rejected

Post by TropicalExpat » Mon, 07 Sep 2020 7:59 am

Number13000 wrote:
Sun, 06 Sep 2020 9:45 pm
Jumping on this via the topic of Eurasians. I have a PR application currently outstanding (posted in other thread for advice) and I for all intents and purposes identify as a Eurasian.

Mod mentioned this might be a stuff-up if I was not bona-fide Eurasian which leads me to ponder on ICA/G's view on Eurasian and where they fit in terms of PR application.

I have an Anglo-Saxon last name through my New-Zealand (mixed-race) father of Maori/Caucasian heritage and a Eurasian lineage through my Anglo-Indian-Portuguese mother, who grew up in Malaysia and Singapore while retaining British nationality. When I acquired my student pass and subsequent E-pass, I was both-times allowed to choose my race and chucked Eurasian as the easiest modifier. My total mix broken down (not that ICA will ever know) is 35/65 Non-White/White.

If they need documents as proof of Eurasian heritage, I can also supply as my maternal grandparents are indeed from India.

I doubt they will dig that rabbit hole, but I am not at all a Chinese or Malay creole from Malacca. There are of course, many Anglo-Indians in our peninsular history. I do not know yet if I should consider the ICA as a race scholar when interrogating my Eurasian heritage in my application...
I don't know about how Eurasian heritage will affect your application, but looking at your profile
[viewtopic.php?f=78&t=134139&p=830138#p830138], I would say your chance are quite low at the moment.

Although you have been here for a long time (positive), most of those were at school (not contributing to Singapore), and they weren't spent at a local school (this is not your fault as there were no places available at your local schools).
Your salary and your number of tax filings is low.
You have no family here (your parents left for NZ) so no ties to keep you here.

Have you applied for the Master's yet and got accepted? If so, you might (me being purely speculative) have a lower chance as the gahmen might think that you are in Singapore to get the subsidy. You actually specifically say "If I don't get it, I won't stay", suggests you really are applying just for the fee reduction, which is fair enough from your perspective.

I would be surprised if you get it, but I wish you all the best!!!

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Re: PR Rejected

Post by Number13000 » Mon, 07 Sep 2020 11:27 am

TropicalExpat wrote:
Mon, 07 Sep 2020 7:59 am
Number13000 wrote:
Sun, 06 Sep 2020 9:45 pm
Jumping on this via the topic of Eurasians. I have a PR application currently outstanding (posted in other thread for advice) and I for all intents and purposes identify as a Eurasian.

Mod mentioned this might be a stuff-up if I was not bona-fide Eurasian which leads me to ponder on ICA/G's view on Eurasian and where they fit in terms of PR application.

I have an Anglo-Saxon last name through my New-Zealand (mixed-race) father of Maori/Caucasian heritage and a Eurasian lineage through my Anglo-Indian-Portuguese mother, who grew up in Malaysia and Singapore while retaining British nationality. When I acquired my student pass and subsequent E-pass, I was both-times allowed to choose my race and chucked Eurasian as the easiest modifier. My total mix broken down (not that ICA will ever know) is 35/65 Non-White/White.

If they need documents as proof of Eurasian heritage, I can also supply as my maternal grandparents are indeed from India.

I doubt they will dig that rabbit hole, but I am not at all a Chinese or Malay creole from Malacca. There are of course, many Anglo-Indians in our peninsular history. I do not know yet if I should consider the ICA as a race scholar when interrogating my Eurasian heritage in my application...
I don't know about how Eurasian heritage will affect your application, but looking at your profile
[viewtopic.php?f=78&t=134139&p=830138#p830138], I would say your chance are quite low at the moment.

Although you have been here for a long time (positive), most of those were at school (not contributing to Singapore), and they weren't spent at a local school (this is not your fault as there were no places available at your local schools).
Your salary and your number of tax filings is low.
You have no family here (your parents left for NZ) so no ties to keep you here.

Have you applied for the Master's yet and got accepted? If so, you might (me being purely speculative) have a lower chance as the gahmen might think that you are in Singapore to get the subsidy. You actually specifically say "If I don't get it, I won't stay", suggests you really are applying just for the fee reduction, which is fair enough from your perspective.

I would be surprised if you get it, but I wish you all the best!!!
All great considerations! I don't intend to be shooting up my salary as I really want to go into research, specifically in Singapore.

I haven't applied to Master's nor accepted yet. I should mention, my main goal of going for Master's in SG is to work as a Research Assistant in my field of study before going on to PhD here. Very hard to do that as a foreigner and I want to do it long term in Singapore. Research Asst will just be on the brink of new EP requirement. Lower fees are a huge consideration, of course.

Again, if I don't get PR, there are just too many hoops to jump through towards local academia/research as a foreigner. But if I can get PR, I'm here forever.

Indeed, I have no formal ties here, a shame...

Thank you for your well wishes :)

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Re: PR Rejected

Post by TropicalExpat » Mon, 07 Sep 2020 1:57 pm

Number13000 wrote:
Mon, 07 Sep 2020 11:27 am
TropicalExpat wrote:
Mon, 07 Sep 2020 7:59 am
Number13000 wrote:
Sun, 06 Sep 2020 9:45 pm
Jumping on this via the topic of Eurasians. I have a PR application currently outstanding (posted in other thread for advice) and I for all intents and purposes identify as a Eurasian.

Mod mentioned this might be a stuff-up if I was not bona-fide Eurasian which leads me to ponder on ICA/G's view on Eurasian and where they fit in terms of PR application.

I have an Anglo-Saxon last name through my New-Zealand (mixed-race) father of Maori/Caucasian heritage and a Eurasian lineage through my Anglo-Indian-Portuguese mother, who grew up in Malaysia and Singapore while retaining British nationality. When I acquired my student pass and subsequent E-pass, I was both-times allowed to choose my race and chucked Eurasian as the easiest modifier. My total mix broken down (not that ICA will ever know) is 35/65 Non-White/White.

If they need documents as proof of Eurasian heritage, I can also supply as my maternal grandparents are indeed from India.

I doubt they will dig that rabbit hole, but I am not at all a Chinese or Malay creole from Malacca. There are of course, many Anglo-Indians in our peninsular history. I do not know yet if I should consider the ICA as a race scholar when interrogating my Eurasian heritage in my application...
I don't know about how Eurasian heritage will affect your application, but looking at your profile
[viewtopic.php?f=78&t=134139&p=830138#p830138], I would say your chance are quite low at the moment.

Although you have been here for a long time (positive), most of those were at school (not contributing to Singapore), and they weren't spent at a local school (this is not your fault as there were no places available at your local schools).
Your salary and your number of tax filings is low.
You have no family here (your parents left for NZ) so no ties to keep you here.

Have you applied for the Master's yet and got accepted? If so, you might (me being purely speculative) have a lower chance as the gahmen might think that you are in Singapore to get the subsidy. You actually specifically say "If I don't get it, I won't stay", suggests you really are applying just for the fee reduction, which is fair enough from your perspective.

I would be surprised if you get it, but I wish you all the best!!!
All great considerations! I don't intend to be shooting up my salary as I really want to go into research, specifically in Singapore.

I haven't applied to Master's nor accepted yet. I should mention, my main goal of going for Master's in SG is to work as a Research Assistant in my field of study before going on to PhD here. Very hard to do that as a foreigner and I want to do it long term in Singapore. Research Asst will just be on the brink of new EP requirement. Lower fees are a huge consideration, of course.

Again, if I don't get PR, there are just too many hoops to jump through towards local academia/research as a foreigner. But if I can get PR, I'm here forever.

Indeed, I have no formal ties here, a shame...

Thank you for your well wishes :)
I should clarify that I meant to say you didn't go to "local" school - again it's not your fault. It's been increasingly difficult to do so!
What I meant was that you aren't integrated in the same way that a locally educated student would be. You arrived at 15, it's almost impossible to get into the a local school.

If you want to stay in Singapore long term and get PR, my suggestion is that you try to work for a couple more years. Get those tax years under your belt and then apply. You might stand a chance after that, but I would be aiming for something to raise your salary a bit.
There are a number of private research organizations that might be able give you a bit of experience and potentially push up your salary.

Good luck!

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Re: PR Rejected

Post by malcontent » Sat, 31 Oct 2020 10:12 pm

PNGMK wrote:
Tue, 16 Jun 2020 8:49 pm
Stuff up #1. You're not Eurasian. "Eurasian" in the Singapore sense is a person of descent of the original mixed race inhabitants of Singapore and Malaysia (i.e. Portugese and Malay and Chinese - usually with surname like DeCruz although I have met some with British surnames). You're not "Singapore Eurasian".
Does my daughter qualify as Eurasian? She was born here to a Chinese mother and Caucasian father. She recently registered her IC with race as Eurasian. Hopefully she didn’t stuff that up! She does have the same last name as a famous Eurasian here, but that is purely coincidental.
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