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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by TropicalExpat » Fri, 18 Sep 2020 11:17 am

whitesneakers wrote:
Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:55 am
hi, first time to write in this forum, hope someone can give a sensing of our application. we submitted last july.
wife - 36yo Fil, 8yrs in SG, spass, 63k salary, social service sector
husband - 28yo Swiss, 1 yr in SG, spass, 66k salary, construction mnc, regional tech mgr

and just curious, what are the common profiles of recently approved applicants? Thanks in advance.
Agree with singaporeflyer.

I hate to say no chance, so I would say almost no chance.

Ethnicities are wrong.
Both salaries are low.
Your husband has only been in Singapore for 1 year.
How long have your been married? If you've not been married at least 2 years, the ICA might consider it a marriage of convenience and reject it.

Common approved profile? Chinese

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by whitesneakers » Fri, 18 Sep 2020 12:21 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Fri, 18 Sep 2020 11:01 am
whitesneakers wrote:
Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:55 am
hi, first time to write in this forum, hope someone can give a sensing of our application. we submitted last july.
wife - 36yo Fil, 8yrs in SG, spass, 63k salary, social service sector
husband - 28yo Swiss, 1 yr in SG, spass, 66k salary, construction mnc, regional tech mgr

and just curious, what are the common profiles of recently approved applicants? Thanks in advance.
Based on what you have said, chance is going to be very low
thanks for the reply! seems that SG still wants majority of Chinese race.
Stay happy, stay positive. Trust in God's timing. :D

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Fri, 18 Sep 2020 12:25 pm

whitesneakers wrote:
Fri, 18 Sep 2020 12:21 pm
singaporeflyer wrote:
Fri, 18 Sep 2020 11:01 am
whitesneakers wrote:
Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:55 am
hi, first time to write in this forum, hope someone can give a sensing of our application. we submitted last july.
wife - 36yo Fil, 8yrs in SG, spass, 63k salary, social service sector
husband - 28yo Swiss, 1 yr in SG, spass, 66k salary, construction mnc, regional tech mgr

and just curious, what are the common profiles of recently approved applicants? Thanks in advance.
Based on what you have said, chance is going to be very low
thanks for the reply! seems that SG still wants majority of Chinese race.
You missed that there are other factors like salary, education, nature of work, duration of stay, pass type, etc also that are significant. These areas are also issues based on the data that you have provided.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by TropicalExpat » Fri, 18 Sep 2020 1:49 pm

whitesneakers wrote:
Fri, 18 Sep 2020 12:21 pm
singaporeflyer wrote:
Fri, 18 Sep 2020 11:01 am
whitesneakers wrote:
Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:55 am
hi, first time to write in this forum, hope someone can give a sensing of our application. we submitted last july.
wife - 36yo Fil, 8yrs in SG, spass, 63k salary, social service sector
husband - 28yo Swiss, 1 yr in SG, spass, 66k salary, construction mnc, regional tech mgr

and just curious, what are the common profiles of recently approved applicants? Thanks in advance.
Based on what you have said, chance is going to be very low
thanks for the reply! seems that SG still wants majority of Chinese race.
Yes ... and why would it change?

The question I always tell PR applicants to ask: how do you contribute to Singapore in a way that others of a similar group do not?
I'm going to break this down for you.
Take your husband. He's a westerner, but only being paid around 5k a month. That's not particularly high. Just look at the western bankers - they typically come in as mid level to high level hires, because they help connect their home markets through Singapore. If you are a VP (a typical mid level role) at an international bank, you're probably on at least 10k a month. More than double your husband. And if you look, it's mainly senior positions that westerners hold, so you're looking at 15k or above.
That is the cohort your husband is competing against. Based on that, I don't think your husband will get PR.

If you take your profile. You are at the age where you will need to have children if you want them (biology). The gahmen, probably expects (rightly or wrongly), that when you do have kids, you will likely stop work while they are young. You therefore wouldn't be contributing any taxes.

At the same time, with your salaries, you would not be able to afford International School, so you would most likely need to send them to local school (which is perfectly reasonable on your part). Your child going to a local school "would create the perception among locals that it" would stop a local going.


Also, how long have you been married? He's been in Singapore for a year, and you've been in Singapore for 8 years. This implies you have been married for less than a year.

Note - edited to clarify in speech marks
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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Fri, 18 Sep 2020 4:41 pm

TropicalExpat wrote:
Fri, 18 Sep 2020 1:49 pm
Your child going to a local school would stop a local going.
This is NOT correct.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by TropicalExpat » Fri, 18 Sep 2020 4:45 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Fri, 18 Sep 2020 4:41 pm
TropicalExpat wrote:
Fri, 18 Sep 2020 1:49 pm
Your child going to a local school would stop a local going.
This is NOT correct.
Thanks ... I typed too quickly. I've edited slightly.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by 123ZzZ321 » Mon, 21 Sep 2020 12:46 am

Hi all,

I would like to check any applicants here that applied on March 2019 and still Pending ?

My profile is as followed:

SC 32 yrs old Chinese (Sponsor for wife)
IT sector / Salary 50K pa

Wife profile as followed:
Malaysian chinese
29 yrs old
EP holder but when we applied for PR She is S pass from her previous employment.
Live In Singapore for 9 years
Diploma from PSB academy
Asst purchasing manager (Local SME) 38K pa
(With this company for 6 months already)
Married for 3 years no kids
Third application for PR
1st attempt 2017 (S pass) (Self applied)
2nd attempt 2018 (Sponsor by me)
3rd and current attempt (March 2019 till now) sponsor by me.

I am just wondering how come it’s pending for 19 months her friend applied for Pr this Feb 2020 and got approved recently. And to make it worst her friend is WP, but because her friend fiancé is an S pass holder hence both of them gotten the PR upon 1st time application. My wife is very upset on this and I am trying to gather information here hope you guys can help enlighten us.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by fullhouse3010 » Tue, 22 Sep 2020 1:37 am

Hi,
I would like to know about my chance of approval
Vietnamese Female 28 this year
Have been in singapore since sec 3, got O level from govt school then poly. Started working with Spass while completing part time degree at SIM. Came to Sg in 2008

More details on my previous applications as follow

1) First time in Nov 2015
Graduated in 2014
Salary Spass 2,600
Highest education at that point only diploma from poly.
Got rejected after 3 months in Jan 2016

2) second time in Aug 2016
During this time, still holding spass. Salary about 2.8k at local company, changed from the previous one
Tax filed once
Studying degree part time at SIM
Got rejected after 3 months as well.

3) my third time and i appreciate your kind thoughts as below

Just applied again in May 2020 after 4 years.
Now holding EP just got upgraded from Spass when joining this company
Works as Maritime Tech Sales, with the current company coming to 2 years.
Annual with bonus around 70-80k
Got my degree in 2017
I can speak mandarin but nothing to prove this so this time round, the current landlord of mine, his 3 sons wrote referral letters for me to become PR as he got cancer last year and i have been staying with him for 7 years and took care of him most of the time. I also got referral letter the current company that how my mandarin skill has helped them to establish the market share in china.

Tax filing- not sure how many timea but have been paying since 2016 of course. So it will be like 4 times?

Got several investments in Sg also.

Appreciate your kind inputs and thoughts. How likely my chance will be?

Cheers

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Tue, 22 Sep 2020 10:01 am

fullhouse3010 wrote:
Tue, 22 Sep 2020 1:37 am
Hi,
I would like to know about my chance of approval
Vietnamese Female 28 this year
Have been in singapore since sec 3, got O level from govt school then poly. Started working with Spass while completing part time degree at SIM. Came to Sg in 2008

More details on my previous applications as follow

1) First time in Nov 2015
Graduated in 2014
Salary Spass 2,600
Highest education at that point only diploma from poly.
Got rejected after 3 months in Jan 2016

2) second time in Aug 2016
During this time, still holding spass. Salary about 2.8k at local company, changed from the previous one
Tax filed once
Studying degree part time at SIM
Got rejected after 3 months as well.

3) my third time and i appreciate your kind thoughts as below

Just applied again in May 2020 after 4 years.
Now holding EP just got upgraded from Spass when joining this company
Works as Maritime Tech Sales, with the current company coming to 2 years.
Annual with bonus around 70-80k
Got my degree in 2017
I can speak mandarin but nothing to prove this so this time round, the current landlord of mine, his 3 sons wrote referral letters for me to become PR as he got cancer last year and i have been staying with him for 7 years and took care of him most of the time. I also got referral letter the current company that how my mandarin skill has helped them to establish the market share in china.

Tax filing- not sure how many timea but have been paying since 2016 of course. So it will be like 4 times?

Got several investments in Sg also.

Appreciate your kind inputs and thoughts. How likely my chance will be?

Cheers
Going to be tough

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by fullhouse3010 » Tue, 22 Sep 2020 10:05 am

@singaporeflyer: may i know why?

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Tue, 22 Sep 2020 10:48 am

fullhouse3010 wrote:
Tue, 22 Sep 2020 10:05 am
@singaporeflyer: may i know why?
Ethnicity and salary may be a factor in your application.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by L0st_Ang3L » Mon, 28 Sep 2020 5:42 pm

Just to give some info of a rejected case:
- Vietnamse, 30, male, single
- Period of stay: since 2008
- Bachelor in CompSci from one of the public unies of Singapore
- Working in Cyber Security field
- Salary $15k

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Mon, 28 Sep 2020 6:00 pm

L0st_Ang3L wrote:
Mon, 28 Sep 2020 5:42 pm
Just to give some info of a rejected case:
- Vietnamse, 30, male, single
- Period of stay: since 2008
- Bachelor in CompSci from one of the public unies of Singapore
- Working in Cyber Security field
- Salary $15k
60-40 chance

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Mon, 28 Sep 2020 6:02 pm

L0st_Ang3L wrote:
Mon, 28 Sep 2020 5:42 pm
Just to give some info of a rejected case:
- Vietnamse, 30, male, single
- Period of stay: since 2008
- Bachelor in CompSci from one of the public unies of Singapore
- Working in Cyber Security field
- Salary $15k
60-40 chance

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by L0st_Ang3L » Mon, 28 Sep 2020 6:12 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Mon, 28 Sep 2020 6:02 pm
60-40 chance
No chances. It was rejected. If applicant's race is not in favour, ICA does not give a damn about anything else.

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