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When do you think Singapore will open its borders?

Post by abbby » Tue, 19 May 2020 1:30 am

After the Circuit breaker and if incoming visitors should do a 3 weeks quarantine? That should be rather safe?
by ProvenPracticalFlexible » Tue, 19 May 2020 12:44 pm
With 3 weeks quarantine there won't be much visitors coming in. So it's about as good as not opening the borders at all.

I believe the regional travel bubbles solution will be the model to go for. Who'd be in it of course is another question.
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Post by PNGMK » Tue, 19 May 2020 8:02 am

It will be staggered with arrangements with countries one by one and in groups.
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Post by martincymru » Tue, 19 May 2020 12:13 pm

test at port of origin is my bet

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Post by ProvenPracticalFlexible » Tue, 19 May 2020 12:44 pm

With 3 weeks quarantine there won't be much visitors coming in. So it's about as good as not opening the borders at all.

I believe the regional travel bubbles solution will be the model to go for. Who'd be in it of course is another question.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 19 May 2020 2:52 pm

If it's regional travel bubbles, Singapore die-die. Total incompetence all the way around it.

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Post by Addadude » Tue, 19 May 2020 6:13 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Tue, 19 May 2020 2:52 pm
If it's regional travel bubbles, Singapore die-die. Total incompetence all the way around it.
I think the only countries they would consider it with will be NZ, Oz and HK. (If these countries want to reciprocate). Taiwan would be off the cards for 'sensitivity' reasons.
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Post by ProvenPracticalFlexible » Tue, 19 May 2020 10:12 pm

SMS, I think you either misunderstood or misinterpreted what is commonly meant by the travel bubbles. I does not mean that all ASEAN countries are opened same time. It could be selection South Korea and Japan, HK and Taiwan or Malaysia and Vietnam. Or any kind of Asian combo. Baltic States already started theirs.

East Asia or even South East Asia has definitely seen any incompetence close to the level of US or the big EU countries. I mean there's still gonna be a debate of course what's the right approach but just being inconsistent, late, messy and a lot of people dying is hardly the right strategy.

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Re: When do you think Singapore will open its borders?

Post by PNGMK » Tue, 19 May 2020 10:25 pm

I am wondering if we might see ASEAN or even APAC trigger some travel agreements soon.
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Re: When do you think Singapore will open its borders?

Post by BigginHill » Sat, 23 May 2020 3:52 pm

Regional governments seem highly cautious of opening any borders at the moment. (sans onerous quarantine regs)

Since March 21st, work pass holders can't even get back into SG at the moment, full stop.

I think we're looking at upwards of 6 months before we'll be able to go to Oz or HK without quarantine...

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Post by ProvenPracticalFlexible » Sat, 23 May 2020 3:59 pm

BigginHill wrote:
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Regional governments seem highly cautious of opening any borders at the moment. (sans onerous quarantine regs)

Since March 21st, work pass holders can't even get back into SG at the moment, full stop.

I think we're looking at upwards of 6 months before we'll be able to go to Oz or HK without quarantine...
I think you are wrong and it will be sooner, but if course only time will tell. Opening borders with 14 day quarantine is almost same as not opening them. So no reason to open at all or start flying.

I'm pretty sure there will be limited between country flights much sooner than 6 months. By then I d expect to be flying to Europe too not just APAC.

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Re: When do you think Singapore will open its borders?

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 24 May 2020 12:54 am

When hell freezes over, in all likelihood.

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Re: When do you think Singapore will open its borders?

Post by PNGMK » Sun, 24 May 2020 2:06 pm

We are going back to the 50s and 60s when air travel was a once in a blue moon thing I think. When I grew up as a missionary kid in PNG we typically went back every 4 to 5 years to our home country as the airfares (or sea passage in the 50s) was SO expensive. I am hearing people paying $4000 now for a flight that would have been $800 pre pandemic and that will remain the case.
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Re: When do you think Singapore will open its borders?

Post by ProvenPracticalFlexible » Sun, 24 May 2020 2:34 pm

That's your doomsday theory. I am pretty sure it won't happen, air travel will start opening up slowly. For the death rate in Singapore that is less than traffic kills, will not justify to kill the economy for ever. So the opening up will come in steps and we'll be mostly free to travel sooner rather than later, there might be different regional limits of course, and Singapore being cautious will first let some other countries try and see the results, meaning 1-2 month delays compared to the first ones.

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Re: When do you think Singapore will open its borders?

Post by Jgrif96229 » Sun, 24 May 2020 11:19 pm

Marina Bay Sands seems to be accepting reservations on their website starting August 1. Now of course that may change at anytime. It is just interesting that such a huge property would be taking reservations 75 days out without some knowledge.
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Re: When do you think Singapore will open its borders?

Post by BigginHill » Mon, 25 May 2020 12:53 am

Jgrif96229 wrote:
Sun, 24 May 2020 11:19 pm
It is just interesting that such a huge property would be taking reservations 75 days out without some knowledge.
Aug 1 would be around 1 month into "phase 2" of the non-circuit breaker circuit breaker.

Not inconceivable tourists will technically be allowed in by then, but still fairly doubtful 14D quarantine will be gone.

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