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Postby newgirl » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 8:09 pm

Hi
I hope I am not the only one who has been shocked and appalled by some of the vicious comments and slanderous remarks posted on this forum recently.

I arrived in Singapore just over 2 months ago and initially thought this website was really good. I've been lucky and met some lovely people, whom I now consider friends and think the website is a really useful source of info for recently arrived expats like myself.

However, recently people have taken to issuing personal and offensive comments which could put new arrivals off using the website. Whether such remarks are deserved or not, this is not the place to vent/out people or make comments on their lifestyle choices.

This section is called Events, Gatherings, Making Friends- perhaps we should beat that in mind before posting/replying :?:

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Postby joop » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 8:23 pm

Please play your part of informing us of any posts you deem undesirable, slanderous or flaming that goes on in the forum.

You can PM any of the moderators here who will evaluate the postings, but don't call us dead, because if we really want to go on hard with the postees, we could, but there should be some freedom of speech in the forum.

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Postby guest22 » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 8:35 pm

Joop,
No-one said you are dead.
I agree with new girl. When I first came to Singapore this website was fully of friendly postings. Whilst that continues there are some pretty nasty ones now. Take . thread for example.


(I believe the rules for this site are: You agree not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, sexually-oriented or any other material that may violate any applicable laws)

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Postby joop » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 8:39 pm

guest22,

Newgirl did in her subject, I've edited it.

We can't stop what kind of people who come in here. And like I mentioned, anything that is not desirable can be reported to the moderators, in this way we can help to make the forum a better place to chat.

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Postby newgirl » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 8:46 pm

joop wrote:guest22,

Newgirl did in her subject, I've edited it.

We can't stop what kind of people who come in here. And like I mentioned, anything that is not desirable can be reported to the moderators, in this way we can help to make the forum a better place to chat.

:D


LOL

I find it truly hilarious that you edited this comment. You have made my night. Did you find this personally offensive, perhaps now that you know what it feels like to be have personal comments directed towards yourself, you could get to work on some of the truly vicious comments on this site?

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Postby guest22 » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 8:48 pm

Right, perhaps you could also edit some of the other postings, such as girly27...comments to the indian expats

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Postby joop » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 8:56 pm

Guest22,

Please send the exact URL link, and we will evaluate it.

Newgirl,

I have sent you an email, no point arguing - you could play your part by informing us or just be an audience.
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Postby Pal » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 9:14 pm

This is getting out of hand.

Topic will be locked and trouble makers will be banned. For complaints please email me.



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Postby PhantomX » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 9:24 pm

http://www.singaporeexpats.com/forum/ftopic11910.html


Please refer to the above url. This is an example of the warnings that we as moderators issue out regularly. Let us assure you that we have been vigorously editing and deleting inflammatory posts. But this is as is with other forums an open space and as in the nature of such spaces people do rave and rant as and when they wish to. Some of the remarks are borderline offensive and we do as a rule err on the side of letting the opinion be expressed rather than curb it straight off. After all nobody enjoys a control freak as a censor. When it is not blatantly clear that someone is out to go jugular on a revenge spree we let things unravel as they may and it may take a few postings before the postee reveals his true inclinations. Admittedly there are times when we miss the odd posting thats downright offensive and for this we ask your indulgence and patience. We will get to it eventually. I have been busy excising material and have missed some which i intend to get to in short order. So do take it from us that we are there on your behalf to do the right thing but not to the extent we extinguish the fire out of the forum :!:

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Postby Guest » Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:10 am

In the event of a serious 'offence', how do you trace the poster? Can it be traced and what measures to do you take after that?

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Postby jerome » Sat, 02 Jul 2005 2:10 am

Anonymous wrote:In the event of a serious 'offence', how do you trace the poster? Can it be traced and what measures to do you take after that?


I would think it goes to the extent and seriousness of the matter.

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Postby Yutenji » Sat, 02 Jul 2005 6:26 pm

Hi,

This is an interesting debate on the subject of free speech (in Singapore, none the less!)

I've often seen some dumb and/or offensive posts here and thought of suggesting draconian ways to get rid of them. But then, much as it pains me, I'm also aware that the whole value of the forum is the ability to speak one's mind (even if one doesn't have much of a mind :roll: )

Winston Churchill (i think) said something like "I utterly and completely disagree with what you have said, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

Bottom line: The best way to deal with the truely stupid posts is report them to the admins. If the post 'cross the line' (yeah, yeah, it's debateable) then it'll get removed. Whatever you do, DON'T respond in kind. The morons who make those posts just love the attention that a reply gives them.

Cheers
P.S. If this post disappears in the next couple of days, you'll know that someone didn't like it :lol:

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Re: Shocking Postings on the Forum

Postby Guest » Thu, 07 Jul 2005 1:17 pm

newgirl wrote:Hi
I hope I am not the only one who has been shocked and appalled by some of the vicious comments and slanderous remarks posted on this forum recently.

I arrived in Singapore just over 2 months ago and initially thought this website was really good. I've been lucky and met some lovely people, whom I now consider friends and think the website is a really useful source of info for recently arrived expats like myself.

However, recently people have taken to issuing personal and offensive comments which could put new arrivals off using the website. Whether such remarks are deserved or not, this is not the place to vent/out people or make comments on their lifestyle choices.

This section is called Events, Gatherings, Making Friends- perhaps we should beat that in mind before posting/replying :?:


To NewGirl and all the others, especially the moderators who posted the warnings

Sometimes we dont know how else to deal with the hurt that someone on this site has caused us. We dont know because they are slippery, elusive, they lie and cheat and get away. So what u expect some of us to do?
They can hurt people but its ok? Yes, yr site is for events but u mean u cannot see that people there are using this site to use women ?

So if you are in that position what will you do? what will u do if yr family member has been hurt or expose to some bad person?

What will YOU do, dear readers?

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Re: Shocking Postings on the Forum

Postby Yutenji » Thu, 07 Jul 2005 3:30 pm

newgirl wrote:I hope I am not the only one who has been shocked and appalled by some of the vicious comments and slanderous remarks posted on this forum recently.
... and ...
Distressed wrote:So if you are in that position what will you do? what will u do if yr family member has been hurt or expose to some bad person? What will YOU do, dear readers?


Agreed, some of the comments are vicious, stupid, shocking, slanderous, moronic, ignorant, racist, sexist, ... the list goes on.

I think, for the most part, the admins do a good job of weeding out these ones. What we're left with is the posts which may be extreme but are none-the-less just expressions of someone's opinion. If you disagree, or are offended by, that opinion you have a couple of choices:
- Respond/reply to it. However, I personally think that in the extreme cases we're talking about, responding just adds fuel to the fire and the extremist feels good about the attention he/she is now getting.
- Ignore it. No question, it's hard (to paraphrase Sting) to "face ignorance and smile" but this starves the extremist of the attention they crave.

In reply to Distressed, if anyone hurt my family and (key point) I could do something tangible about it, I would. [The body would never be found]. However, words have no impact on these people, so try to let it go and focus on the 99% of contributors to the forum who are rationale, reasonable people.

End of lecture. :oops:
Cheers

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Postby neopet » Sat, 23 Jul 2005 3:05 pm

I noticed that some of my postings are edited (when I did not register in). Do you practise editing of messages too? I may not have a very sharp mind but I do remember how I posted that particular message.

Appreciate your advise. Thank you.


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