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Singapore: 100-1000 infections in a month

Post by abbby » Fri, 03 Apr 2020 10:53 am

This is a very good read from SCMP. Some fine-tuning could have made things better I guess.

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-e ... 1585873467
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Post by tt1973 » Fri, 03 Apr 2020 2:34 pm

5 deaths due to COVID-19 now.

Latest death is from the elderly home cluster.

Looking bad now ...

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 03 Apr 2020 3:16 pm

It's the stupidity of the minions here still clustering in public, thinking that MUST gather in groups of 10. The local mentality is always do the maximum allowable under the law (if you cannot get away with breaking in in the confines of your home). Safe Distancing @ 1 mtr is ineffective (should be the "social" distancing of 1.5 mtr or 6 feet minimum) But we are dealing with local mindsets here. The problem now is the larger and larger numbers of community spread. My son has a barbershop. Yesterday he got a SHN for 14 days. Dutch customer who he cut his hair on the 28th of March has subsequently tested positive for the virus as has his wife. Two sons are negative. Customer and sons in shop, the wife/mother was not. Five days in from contact, no signs of symptoms but still 9 days to go. Fortunately he has his own place. He called me last night to let me know.

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Post by thismyvoice » Fri, 03 Apr 2020 9:17 pm

Hope your son stays covid-free. But seriously, this 10 people rule is silly. Why 10 and not 9? Can it be 4? 10 is a large number.

In addition, there are still many people not wearing masks. This is also true for food handlers. Not wearing masks and talking non-stop. I wonder when the G will put a stop to this.

This 2nd wave is likely caused by those returning from overseas. I think the method to segregate this group was too lax. They took public transport back home to serve their stay home notice. This puts those that took public transport at risk. And did they wear masks when in public transport? It is only recently that they transport them from airport to hotels to serve the notice.

Family members of those on stay-home notice, who stay with them, is free to roam. This is another risk.

Are we testing enough?

Now the dormitories are affected. This is bad.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 03 Apr 2020 9:38 pm

I agree with everything you are saying. What was worse was those who WERE wearing masks half the time the masks were under their chins. What? They pull them up after somebody has sneezed or coughed in their face? Bloody idiots.

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Post by PNGMK » Sat, 04 Apr 2020 10:16 am

I wasn't surprised this happened (the crackdown). On my evening run there were FAR more people mingling that pre Covid and the hawker stalls were full of patrons shouting and drinking and carousing.
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 04 Apr 2020 10:38 am

I had to physically go to the bank for some counter services this morning and same thing Hawker centre in Serangoon Central no change wall to wall 90% without masks and nobody moving. Kopi shops crowded and people still not paying much attention to X'd seats. Bank & MickyD's better controlled with marked lines and control entry with temp & contact tracing info being collected. Way to many people "milling about" though. Singapore is going to get hit with a pretty hard '2nd Wave' I fear.

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Post by martincymru » Sat, 04 Apr 2020 2:58 pm

We perhaps need to accept / reconcile that until a vaccine comes along next year the "herd" principle applies, whatever we do in next 6 months or so.

To put it another way it is good to have lots of infections now whilst we have capacity to care ("building the immunity"). Empty beds are an inefficient use of resources. Only when our health infrastructure is at 100% capacity + say 5% do we whack everyone with total lock-down for very short time.

I don't believe, per se, in lock-downs since you nail one statistic (reduction in Covid death rate) but on the other hand many important treatments are delayed (= death) and economy crashes (= death).

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