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Simultaneous applications for LTVP+ and PR

Post by prhopeful » Mon, 09 Mar 2020 1:14 pm

Hi,

I have just applied for PR, but since it is my first try, I am not extremely positive.

I am married to a Singaporean. Any idea if there is any point in also simultaneously applying for an LTVP?

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Re: Simultaneous applications for LTVP+ and PR

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 09 Mar 2020 1:24 pm

Definitely apply for the LTVP as well. Based on your previous posts, you will need it. Your odds of approval for PR are very close to zero if not zero. Too early to be applying for PR until you have been here for at least 2 consecutive years and or married to a local for at least two consecutive years. (maybe get by with 18 months if your wife gives birth to a child in a Singapore hospital).

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Re: Simultaneous applications for LTVP+ and PR

Post by prhopeful » Mon, 09 Mar 2020 10:39 pm

Thanks sundaymorningstaple. Then the task is cut out quite clearly isn't it?

Anyway - I did not apply on the spousal route this time(took some advice from friends and family, and because of wife's income, they all suggested to apply as a pass holder - they capture local spouse details in the application anyway). Do you think there's any point in making 2 applications - one using foreigner working here route and the other using spousal route?

(Also may be time to change username to prdesperate)

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 09 Mar 2020 11:13 pm

If you are on an EP, you were right to file using the PTS scheme if your wife's income is too low for purposes of showing the ability of support you if your EP get canceled. Additionally, if her income is low you would have a lower chance of getting the LTVP as well.

As you say, her details will be in both of the applications, but using the Family Ties route means she needs to be able to show she can support you without a job (and any sprogs that just might happen along the way). Whereas using the EP route, already your income is high enough to show the ability to support her so getting it on your own merits is much better but either way you are still looking in excess of two years before you have a decent chance of gaining PR. Now the only issue I see aside from your personal reasons, is the hope that you can keep your EP that long. Hopefully that isn't one of the reasons for trying to rush the issue!

Two applications? NO. definitely not.

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Re: Simultaneous applications for LTVP+ and PR

Post by garudaa » Mon, 09 Mar 2020 11:25 pm

All the best!
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Re: Simultaneous applications for LTVP+ and PR

Post by prhopeful » Fri, 06 Nov 2020 8:00 pm

So it's been 8 months nearly(technically 3 days short of 8 months) since I applied for PR. I've met the MP at my wife's GRC and she's made a plea to the MP to ask ICA look into my application favourably. 4 days later I got a letter from ICA saying they've received the MP's letter and it will be considered when considering my application. It's been about 2 months since then.

Any opinions on what my chances are?

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 06 Nov 2020 8:17 pm

It's extremely rare for an MP letter to have any negligible impact on a PR application unless there are extenuating circumstances (of which I've never hear of any). The is more of a feel good item but does little in impacting the application. Been there and done that and also it was reinforced by the ICA officer to interviewed me for my PR 25 years ago. But that was 15 years later at a holiday dinner hosted by one of the upmarket countryclubs here. He was near the top of the civil service at that time, still with ICA and he actually remembered me and came over to our table to chat (in the mid 90's is was rare for Caucasians to apply for PRs so fairly easy to remember me - especially with an 18 year part time career in the local TV media (SBC/TCS/MediaCorp). They are just filed into the respective individuals file as filler for all intents and purposes.

You chances are exactly the same as they were before ICA got the letter from the MP.

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