PR approval chance in 2020

[singaporeflyer]

Good evening, have been scrolling through all the posts so thought I would ask about our chances of becoming PR even though it seems our ethnicity/nationalities are against us and that we have 2 daughters.


Main applicant:
Gender - Male
Age - 35 years
Nationality: Caucasian English
Work: Director in a broking firm
Education: Business Degree
Duration in Singapore: 9 years
Total salary: 300k + bonus

Spouse
Age - 36 years
Nationality - Caucasian American
Education - Bachelor or Science and Doctorate
Work - Worked in health care the first 5 years in Singapore and now housewife who regularly volunteers with various women's and children's shelters (with Covid since she cannot physically be there she is part of a group that donates for groceries and meals)
Duration in Singapore: 10 years (we met and married here)

Child 1
Age - 2
Gender - Female
Nationality - American and British
Education - Playgroup at a more local style nursery

Child 2
Age - 5 months
Nationality - American and British
Gender - Female

I think you might stand a reasonable chance given your length of stay in Singapore. Yes your ethnicity is not a positive, but then I suspect there will be a number of expats leaving in the coming year as jobs are switched out to locals.
You salary is in the decent range but maybe not be high enough given the people you will be directly competing with.

As we've mentioned elsewhere, volunteering no longer seems to hold a lot of weight with the authorities.

Just go ahead and apply. The $100 fee is not a lot for your salary and if you get it, that's wonderful news for you guys.

Just something slightly separate. If you were at some point to have a son, I'm not sure how that would work in terms of REP renewal. Whether the authorities would reject your REP renewal if you don't get your son PR and hence lose your PR.
I'm not sure if @SMS has a view on whether son's get automatic PR or if you can choose for them to be LTVP.
My assumption here is that if you choose to have your son get LTVP vs PR, then they would likely not be able to get a job here/stay here when they become adults.
Purely hypothetical I grant you

Not sure how speaking about son is relevant here. He has 2 kids and has asked for their total PR chance. Better not to confuse someone by providing excess information that is totally not related to their application, unless he possibly asked about chances for PR, when he has a son later.

@kjc123, your chances will be low.

Reason
1. Ethnicity
2. High salary and you can relocate any time

[TropicalExpat]

Good evening, have been scrolling through all the posts so thought I would ask about our chances of becoming PR even though it seems our ethnicity/nationalities are against us and that we have 2 daughters.


Main applicant:
Gender - Male
Age - 35 years
Nationality: Caucasian English
Work: Director in a broking firm
Education: Business Degree
Duration in Singapore: 9 years
Total salary: 300k + bonus

Spouse
Age - 36 years
Nationality - Caucasian American
Education - Bachelor or Science and Doctorate
Work - Worked in health care the first 5 years in Singapore and now housewife who regularly volunteers with various women's and children's shelters (with Covid since she cannot physically be there she is part of a group that donates for groceries and meals)
Duration in Singapore: 10 years (we met and married here)

Child 1
Age - 2
Gender - Female
Nationality - American and British
Education - Playgroup at a more local style nursery

Child 2
Age - 5 months
Nationality - American and British
Gender - Female

I think you might stand a reasonable chance given your length of stay in Singapore. Yes your ethnicity is not a positive, but then I suspect there will be a number of expats leaving in the coming year as jobs are switched out to locals.
You salary is in the decent range but maybe not be high enough given the people you will be directly competing with.

As we've mentioned elsewhere, volunteering no longer seems to hold a lot of weight with the authorities.

Just go ahead and apply. The $100 fee is not a lot for your salary and if you get it, that's wonderful news for you guys.

Just something slightly separate. If you were at some point to have a son, I'm not sure how that would work in terms of REP renewal. Whether the authorities would reject your REP renewal if you don't get your son PR and hence lose your PR.
I'm not sure if @SMS has a view on whether son's get automatic PR or if you can choose for them to be LTVP.
My assumption here is that if you choose to have your son get LTVP vs PR, then they would likely not be able to get a job here/stay here when they become adults.
Purely hypothetical I grant you

Not sure how speaking about son is relevant here. He has 2 kids and has asked for their total PR chance. Better not to confuse someone by providing excess information that is totally not related to their application, unless he possibly asked about chances for PR, when he has a son later.

@kjc123, your chances will be low.

Reason
1. Ethnicity
2. High salary and you can relocate any time

Maybe it's something he's not considered. I don't think I overloaded with information.

[Coral_diamond]

Hello! Planning to apply next month.

Your thoughts on our chances please, given it is almost year-end and the economic situation.

Sponsor - PR (wife)
Age: 38
Nationality: PH
Race: PH
Educ: Bachelor's Degree (top uni in PH)
Occupation: Application Devt Mgr in local bank for 14 yrs
Work exp: 17yrs
Length of stay in SG: 14 yrs, PR for 10 yrs
Tax Assessment: 14 years
Base Salary: 130k/yr
Yrs married : 10


Applicant - (EP) husband
Age: 38
Nationality: PH
Race: PH
Educ: Bachelor's Degree (PH)
Occupation: Lead Consultant in local IT firm for 7 yrs
Work exp: 17yrs
Length of stay in SG: 14 yrs
Tax Assessment: 14 years
Base Salary: 92k/yr

Child 1 - (DP) female
Born in SG in 2010
Studying in local primary school

Child 2 - (DP) male
Born in SG in 2015

1st application - 2010 when daughter was born
2nd application - 2016 sponsored whole fam
3rd application - 2018 sponsored children only
4th application - 2019 husband on own merit

Thank you for your help.

[the observer]

Hello! Planning to apply next month.

Your thoughts on our chances please, given it is almost year-end and the economic situation.

Sponsor - PR (wife)
Age: 38
Nationality: PH
Race: PH
Educ: Bachelor's Degree (top uni in PH)
Occupation: Application Devt Mgr in local bank for 14 yrs
Work exp: 17yrs
Length of stay in SG: 14 yrs, PR for 10 yrs
Tax Assessment: 14 years
Base Salary: 130k/yr
Yrs married : 10


Applicant - (EP) husband
Age: 38
Nationality: PH
Race: PH
Educ: Bachelor's Degree (PH)
Occupation: Lead Consultant in local IT firm for 7 yrs
Work exp: 17yrs
Length of stay in SG: 14 yrs
Tax Assessment: 14 years
Base Salary: 92k/yr

Child 1 - (DP) female
Born in SG in 2010
Studying in local primary school

Child 2 - (DP) male
Born in SG in 2015

1st application - 2010 when daughter was born
2nd application - 2016 sponsored whole fam
3rd application - 2018 sponsored children only
4th application - 2019 husband on own merit

Thank you for your help.

You will probably know by now, your competition is in the “others” category.

It’s a small quota for approvals.
You compete against caucasians, Japanese, Koreans, etc.

[TropicalExpat]

Hello! Planning to apply next month.

Your thoughts on our chances please, given it is almost year-end and the economic situation.

Sponsor - PR (wife)
Age: 38
Nationality: PH
Race: PH
Educ: Bachelor's Degree (top uni in PH)
Occupation: Application Devt Mgr in local bank for 14 yrs
Work exp: 17yrs
Length of stay in SG: 14 yrs, PR for 10 yrs
Tax Assessment: 14 years
Base Salary: 130k/yr
Yrs married : 10


Applicant - (EP) husband
Age: 38
Nationality: PH
Race: PH
Educ: Bachelor's Degree (PH)
Occupation: Lead Consultant in local IT firm for 7 yrs
Work exp: 17yrs
Length of stay in SG: 14 yrs
Tax Assessment: 14 years
Base Salary: 92k/yr

Child 1 - (DP) female
Born in SG in 2010
Studying in local primary school

Child 2 - (DP) male
Born in SG in 2015

1st application - 2010 when daughter was born
2nd application - 2016 sponsored whole fam
3rd application - 2018 sponsored children only
4th application - 2019 husband on own merit

Thank you for your help.

You ethnicity and age stand against you. Like I said in a different post, if your wife applied again now, she probably wouldn't get it.
I think you salary is low for your ethnic group.

The only 2 positives are that your daughter is in a local primary school and that your wife is already a PR.
And these are only marginal.

[BigginHill]

@kjc123, your chances will be low.

Reason
1. Ethnicity
2. High salary and you can relocate any time

I would agree. I've seen similar profiles being rejected for PR multiple times. (myself included)

Honestly speaking, I don't think there's much future in westerners settling down long term in Singapore anymore. (unless spouse/family is local of course)

Public sentiment, national immigration and labour policies are actively working against foreigners & are not likely to fade away. And why would people want to settle in a place where they're not wanted.

Vivian Balakrishnan said it best:

“The only reason we have foreigners here is to give an extra wind in our sails when the opportunity is there,” he added.

“Now we are in a storm and we need to shed ballast"

[Lslsnoopy]

Hi

Post here to rate my PR chance .

Was applied Apr 2020 attached my husband.
Main Applicant
Age : 31
Nationality: malaysia
Race : Chinese
Holding S pass
Occupation : Account executive in construction sector (1 year)
Qualifications: Diploma (CAT)
In Singapore around 13 - 14 years
Salary : $35k per annum
Will start part-time degree course coming Dec

Husband profile
Age : 41
Nationality: Malaysian
Qualification : Secondary school
Occupation: Delivery man
Basic salary $1k per month + commission
(Earning around $2k per month)
Working in Singapore 10 years

Married 5 years no kids

Appreciate on all experts reply.
Thanks

[the observer]

@kjc123, your chances will be low.

Reason
1. Ethnicity
2. High salary and you can relocate any time

I would agree. I've seen similar profiles being rejected for PR multiple times. (myself included)

Honestly speaking, I don't think there's much future in westerners settling down long term in Singapore anymore. (unless spouse/family is local of course)

Public sentiment, national immigration and labour policies are actively working against foreigners & are not likely to fade away. And why would people want to settle in a place where they're not wanted.

Vivian Balakrishnan said it best:

“The only reason we have foreigners here is to give an extra wind in our sails when the opportunity is there,” he added.

“Now we are in a storm and we need to shed ballast"

In the same vein as asians in the states or oz, especially for those from the chinese stock.

[kraig85]

Hi all,

I am new to the forum, very nice to meet you all!

First, thanks to all of you for providing feedback on chances for PR, this is a super helpful service!

I wonder if you could also share your thoughts on my potential. If you have any insights on where I am likely to fail in my application (and what I could possibly do about it) that would be really appreciated.

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Age : 34
Race : Caucasian (American)
Gender : Male
Marital Status : Married to Singapore Citizen (been married slightly under 1 year)
Religion : NA
Education : PhD, one of the top 2 universities in UK
Current Field of Work : Higher Education
Length of stay : 3 years
No of tax return : 3
Salary : Approx. $400k
Pass : EP
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Thanks again!
Kraig

[singaporeflyer]

Hi all,

I am new to the forum, very nice to meet you all!

First, thanks to all of you for providing feedback on chances for PR, this is a super helpful service!

I wonder if you could also share your thoughts on my potential. If you have any insights on where I am likely to fail in my application (and what I could possibly do about it) that would be really appreciated.

---
Age : 34
Race : Caucasian (American)
Gender : Male
Marital Status : Married to Singapore Citizen (been married slightly under 1 year)
Religion : NA
Education : PhD, one of the top 2 universities in UK
Current Field of Work : Higher Education
Length of stay : 3 years
No of tax return : 3
Salary : Approx. $400k
Pass : EP
---

Thanks again!
Kraig

Apply after 1.5 years later.

[suwarnis]

Hello all,
greatly appreciate it if someone could evaluate the chances of my PR application. I plan to apply this year.

Age: 28
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Race: Chinese (USA / Taiwan)
Education: M.Sc. Agriculture (Europe)
Duration of stay in Singapore: Exacty 3 years
Occupation: Sales Analyst, Regional Sales Office
Salary: 60k+ per annum
Work Experience: 3 years
Current Pass: EP

Thank you!

[singaporeflyer]

Hello all,
greatly appreciate it if someone could evaluate the chances of my PR application. I plan to apply this year.

Age: 28
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Race: Chinese (USA / Taiwan)
Education: M.Sc. Agriculture (Europe)
Duration of stay in Singapore: Exacty 3 years
Occupation: Sales Analyst, Regional Sales Office
Salary: 60k+ per annum
Work Experience: 3 years
Current Pass: EP

Thank you!

Not going to be easy in the current climate

Reason
1. Short stay in SG
2. Education and Occupation does not seem to be in demand
3. Salary

[suwarnis]

Hello all,
greatly appreciate it if someone could evaluate the chances of my PR application. I plan to apply this year.

Age: 28
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Race: Chinese (USA / Taiwan)
Education: M.Sc. Agriculture (Europe)
Duration of stay in Singapore: Exacty 3 years
Occupation: Sales Analyst, Regional Sales Office
Salary: 60k+ per annum
Work Experience: 3 years
Current Pass: EP

Thank you!

Not going to be easy in the current climate

Reason
1. Short stay in SG
2. Education and Occupation does not seem to be in demand
3. Salary

I understand. Thank you very much for your reply.

[Abiforum]

Hello all,
I’m new to posting on forum. Apologies if I post in a wrong format.
Have been reading the many comments here and have learnt a lot these past months while I waited for my PR application to have an outcome. Happy to share my application has been approved!

Thought of sharing brief details here. Hope this might help you all and give further insights.

Application till approval: exactly 6 months
Date of approval: 7 sept 2020
Nationality: Malaysian
Race: Chinese
Gender: female
Age: 41
Marital status: single
Length of stay: 6 years
Industry: biotechnology and biopharma
Salary: about 220k per year (basic)
Qualification: bachelor’s (Hons) in a medical field (professional)

I did not include any documents that was classified as optional in the online form (eg. Educational transcript, employer recommendation)

Hope this is useful

[sundaymorningstaple]

Yes it is. You particulars tend to mirror what we have noted anecdotally for a long time. Oh, and congratulations!