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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by siena71 » Thu, 03 Sep 2020 2:53 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Thu, 03 Sep 2020 2:49 pm
siena71 wrote:
Thu, 03 Sep 2020 2:34 pm
Hi all,
I applied for PR last year Oct (second time), I want to ask my chances of approval:

Age : 29
Race : Chinese
Nationality: Taiwanese
Gender : Female
Marital Status : Single
Education : Bachelor of Sciences
Job : Technical Product Manager in FinTech (UK startup, invested by SG company)
Length of stay : almost 7 years
Salary :84k+ base salary
Pass: EP

Came to SG in 2013, started as Customer Service Agent in the aviation industry, WP with 20K+ base salary
Applied in mid-2016, worked as Quality Analyst for a well-known SG startup, SP with 36K base salary. Received reject letter 4 months after applying.
Applied again in 2019 Oct, worked as a Product Manager for small SG startup, EP with 66K base salary
Joined my current company in 2020 Jan.

ICA requested a letter from my new employee and my family curriculum vitae in Feb. Also called me to confirm my current address in July after I email them my new address.

Please let me know what do you think! Thank you :)
You may have a chance. How long are you on EP?
1 year +, since 2019 May

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by jamie9vardy » Thu, 03 Sep 2020 2:53 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
siena71 wrote:
Thu, 03 Sep 2020 2:34 pm
Hi all,
I applied for PR last year Oct (second time), I want to ask my chances of approval:

Age : 29
Race : Chinese
Nationality: Taiwanese
Gender : Female
Marital Status : Single
Education : Bachelor of Sciences
Job : Technical Product Manager in FinTech (UK startup, invested by SG company)
Length of stay : almost 7 years
Salary :84k+ base salary
Pass: EP

Came to SG in 2013, started as Customer Service Agent in the aviation industry, WP with 20K+ base salary
Applied in mid-2016, worked as Quality Analyst for a well-known SG startup, SP with 36K base salary. Received reject letter 4 months after applying.
Applied again in 2019 Oct, worked as a Product Manager for small SG startup, EP with 66K base salary
Joined my current company in 2020 Jan.

ICA requested a letter from my new employee and my family curriculum vitae in Feb. Also called me to confirm my current address in July after I email them my new address.

Please let me know what do you think! Thank you :)
You may have a chance. How long are you on EP?
Agreed with SF. You may have a chance this time.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 03 Sep 2020 3:25 pm

Concur. Decent chance.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by TropicalExpat » Thu, 03 Sep 2020 4:22 pm

siena71 wrote:
Thu, 03 Sep 2020 2:34 pm
Hi all,
I applied for PR last year Oct (second time), I want to ask my chances of approval:

Age : 29
Race : Chinese
Nationality: Taiwanese
Gender : Female
Marital Status : Single
Education : Bachelor of Sciences
Job : Technical Product Manager in FinTech (UK startup, invested by SG company)
Length of stay : almost 7 years
Salary :84k+ base salary
Pass: EP

Came to SG in 2013, started as Customer Service Agent in the aviation industry, WP with 20K+ base salary
Applied in mid-2016, worked as Quality Analyst for a well-known SG startup, SP with 36K base salary. Received reject letter 4 months after applying.
Applied again in 2019 Oct, worked as a Product Manager for small SG startup, EP with 66K base salary
Joined my current company in 2020 Jan.

ICA requested a letter from my new employee and my family curriculum vitae in Feb. Also called me to confirm my current address in July after I email them my new address.

Please let me know what do you think! Thank you :)
Should be reasonable chance. Good luck!

please let us know how it turns out

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by snoopygirl » Thu, 03 Sep 2020 5:40 pm

Hello, all:
I am asking advice from all friends on this topic, and appreciate your suggestions in advance.

I came to Singapore for a position in a MNC pharma company in 2012 August, and got my first EP. The EP has been renewed 3 times (same company) and the latest renewal was issued in June 2020 for 3 years.
As I have been staying in Singapore for 8 years, I started my PR application process and submitted on Aug 10, 2020 (my first PR application). However, my company announced an unexpected re-organization on Aug 12 and my position will be eliminated. The last day will be October 31, 2020 (and EP will be cancelled on that day), and I am now finding a job to stay in Singapore after that.

Age : 42
Race : Chinese
Nationality: Taiwanese
Gender : Female
Marital Status : Single
Education: phd in Economics (USA)
Job : Medical Affairs Associate, specialized in Health Economics, Health Technology Assessment
Length of stay : 8 years
Salary :100k+ as base salary and
Pass: EP

I spoke to my health insurance agent this afternoon about this, and she suggested me to write a letter to ICA explaining the situation, and asking whether it's possible to expedite my application of PR before my EP is cancelled. However, I saw some posts here sharing the potential negative impact if asking for expedition.

Just wondering is there anything i can do to help with this situation? Really appreciate your feedback and suggestion in advance. :)

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 03 Sep 2020 5:50 pm

snoopygirl wrote:
Thu, 03 Sep 2020 5:40 pm
Hello, all:
I am asking advice from all friends on this topic, and appreciate your suggestions in advance.

I came to Singapore for a position in a MNC pharma company in 2012 August, and got my first EP. The EP has been renewed 3 times (same company) and the latest renewal was issued in June 2020 for 3 years.
As I have been staying in Singapore for 8 years, I started my PR application process and submitted on Aug 10, 2020 (my first PR application). However, my company announced an unexpected re-organization on Aug 12 and my position will be eliminated. The last day will be October 31, 2020 (and EP will be cancelled on that day), and I am now finding a job to stay in Singapore after that.

Age : 42
Race : Chinese
Nationality: Taiwanese
Gender : Female
Marital Status : Single
Education: phd in Economics (USA)
Job : Medical Affairs Associate, specialized in Health Economics, Health Technology Assessment
Length of stay : 8 years
Salary :100k+ as base salary and
Pass: EP

I spoke to my health insurance agent this afternoon about this, and she suggested me to write a letter to ICA explaining the situation, and asking whether it's possible to expedite my application of PR before my EP is cancelled. However, I saw some posts here sharing the potential negative impact if asking for expedition.

Just wondering is there anything i can do to help with this situation? Really appreciate your feedback and suggestion in advance. :)
PR approval is valid only if you have a valid work Pass (EP/S Pass). To be honest, if ICA is aware of your possible/future job loss, you may not even get your PR approved. As far as I know, ICA would not treat your situation as a valid reason for expediting your application. At this moment, midst of the pandemic, they would already want to see how to approve only very few applicants.

Please focus your efforts on finding a new job asap.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by TropicalExpat » Thu, 03 Sep 2020 6:10 pm

snoopygirl wrote:
Thu, 03 Sep 2020 5:40 pm
Hello, all:
I am asking advice from all friends on this topic, and appreciate your suggestions in advance.

I came to Singapore for a position in a MNC pharma company in 2012 August, and got my first EP. The EP has been renewed 3 times (same company) and the latest renewal was issued in June 2020 for 3 years.
As I have been staying in Singapore for 8 years, I started my PR application process and submitted on Aug 10, 2020 (my first PR application). However, my company announced an unexpected re-organization on Aug 12 and my position will be eliminated. The last day will be October 31, 2020 (and EP will be cancelled on that day), and I am now finding a job to stay in Singapore after that.

Age : 42
Race : Chinese
Nationality: Taiwanese
Gender : Female
Marital Status : Single
Education: phd in Economics (USA)
Job : Medical Affairs Associate, specialized in Health Economics, Health Technology Assessment
Length of stay : 8 years
Salary :100k+ as base salary and
Pass: EP

I spoke to my health insurance agent this afternoon about this, and she suggested me to write a letter to ICA explaining the situation, and asking whether it's possible to expedite my application of PR before my EP is cancelled. However, I saw some posts here sharing the potential negative impact if asking for expedition.

Just wondering is there anything i can do to help with this situation? Really appreciate your feedback and suggestion in advance. :)
Sorry about your circumstances.
You've already submitted the PR application. So just forget about it for now.
Get a new job first and then worry about the PR. If you get it in a short space of time, then you can just contact ICA.
The application timeline is so long (more than 12 months in some cases), so if you get a job in the meantime, they may roll your application into the new job.

Just focus on the job and good luck with the search!

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by Elena.Kwa » Thu, 03 Sep 2020 6:39 pm

nik0508 wrote:
Mon, 31 Aug 2020 6:00 pm
Hi All,

Thanks for viewing my post.

I'm reaching out to experts who have been in this forum for a while and providing guidance to people in need.

Purpose of my post is to seek guidance whether is this the right time to apply & whether my profile stands any chance to get esteemed Singapore PR. Apprecaite if you have any insights or guidance ?

In Singapore from 2004 - 2005 for Education, could not get a job moved to Middle east to work with a well reputed accounting firm for 3.5 years.

Got a job in Singapore again in 2014 November moved here with Family (Wife & 1 Daughter). We had our second child in Singapore in 2016.

First PR application submitted in September 2017 myself as main applicant with wife & 2 daughters, which was rejected after 10 months in July 2018.

Considering to apply once again but before doing that evaluating should i apply again or not ? Seek your feedback and suggestions ? My detailed profile as per below:

Main applicant:
Gender - Male
Age - 36 years
Nationality: Indian
Work: Compliance senior management in a MNC BANK
Education: Chartered Accountant
Duration: First time - 1.5 years for studies (2004- 2005). Work (Nov 2014 to Present)
Change of Job - Changed Job in May 2018.
Work experience: 12y +
Total salary: 220K / Total salary during 1st application 168K
Pass: EP valid till Jan 2022.
Tax filing: 6 years

Spouse
Age - 36 years
Nationality - Indian
Education - MBA from Europe
Work - Home maker since we had our first kid i.e. never worked in Singapore

Child 1
Age - 7 years
Gender - Female
Nationality - Indian
Education - Primary 1 in Local MOE school

Child 2
Age - 4 years
Nationality - Indian
Gender - Female
Education - Kindergarten in a church based school
Hi Nik,

Based on your information provided, you have a good family nucleus and belongs to the upper brackets of an EP holder. Generally, your profile seems above average, given your age, qualifications, industry type and salary range.

As it has also been more than 2 years since your last rejection, it is a good time to consider reapplying, especially if there have been progress in your professional career over the past years. Furthermore, with the current COVID-19 pandemic, approx. 150,000 foreigners have already left Singapore and there are definitely fewer applications submitted for Singapore Permanent Residency (PR) these days compared to the pre-COVID times.

As a professional in the inbound Singapore immigration industry, we know from official statistics that there are easily more than 150,000 applicants applying for PR every year and only 32,000-33,000 are approved annually! A tip to remember, the Singapore government takes a holistic approach to evaluate eligible PR candidates and there is no one deciding factor.

Do not lose hope and give PR another shot! All the best to you!

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PR approval chance in 2020

Post by jamie9vardy » Thu, 03 Sep 2020 6:53 pm

Elena.Kwa wrote:
nik0508 wrote:
Mon, 31 Aug 2020 6:00 pm
Hi All,

Thanks for viewing my post.

I'm reaching out to experts who have been in this forum for a while and providing guidance to people in need.

Purpose of my post is to seek guidance whether is this the right time to apply & whether my profile stands any chance to get esteemed Singapore PR. Apprecaite if you have any insights or guidance ?

In Singapore from 2004 - 2005 for Education, could not get a job moved to Middle east to work with a well reputed accounting firm for 3.5 years.

Got a job in Singapore again in 2014 November moved here with Family (Wife & 1 Daughter). We had our second child in Singapore in 2016.

First PR application submitted in September 2017 myself as main applicant with wife & 2 daughters, which was rejected after 10 months in July 2018.

Considering to apply once again but before doing that evaluating should i apply again or not ? Seek your feedback and suggestions ? My detailed profile as per below:

Main applicant:
Gender - Male
Age - 36 years
Nationality: Indian
Work: Compliance senior management in a MNC BANK
Education: Chartered Accountant
Duration: First time - 1.5 years for studies (2004- 2005). Work (Nov 2014 to Present)
Change of Job - Changed Job in May 2018.
Work experience: 12y +
Total salary: 220K / Total salary during 1st application 168K
Pass: EP valid till Jan 2022.
Tax filing: 6 years

Spouse
Age - 36 years
Nationality - Indian
Education - MBA from Europe
Work - Home maker since we had our first kid i.e. never worked in Singapore

Child 1
Age - 7 years
Gender - Female
Nationality - Indian
Education - Primary 1 in Local MOE school

Child 2
Age - 4 years
Nationality - Indian
Gender - Female
Education - Kindergarten in a church based school
Hi Nik,

Based on your information provided, you have a good family nucleus and belongs to the upper brackets of an EP holder. Generally, your profile seems above average, given your age, qualifications, industry type and salary range.

As it has also been more than 2 years since your last rejection, it is a good time to consider reapplying, especially if there have been progress in your professional career over the past years. Furthermore, with the current COVID-19 pandemic, approx. 150,000 foreigners have already left Singapore and there are definitely fewer applications submitted for Singapore Permanent Residency (PR) these days compared to the pre-COVID times.

As a professional in the inbound Singapore immigration industry, we know from official statistics that there are easily more than 150,000 applicants applying for PR every year and only 32,000-33,000 are approved annually! A tip to remember, the Singapore government takes a holistic approach to evaluate eligible PR candidates and there is no one deciding factor.

Do not lose hope and give PR another shot! All the best to you!
Elena, tell us something that we don’t already know.

What’s your take on the % of success?
Elena.Kwa wrote: Furthermore, with the current COVID-19 pandemic, approx. 150,000 foreigners have already left Singapore and there are definitely fewer applications submitted
Wow... Really?
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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 03 Sep 2020 7:02 pm

^^^^This.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by TropicalExpat » Thu, 03 Sep 2020 7:47 pm

Look up the name on google and you see an "immigration consultant"...

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by jamie9vardy » Thu, 03 Sep 2020 7:54 pm

TropicalExpat wrote:Look up the name on google and you see an "immigration consultant"...
Yes, she said that in her post too. Was waiting for her to post a link to solicit business and for the mods to ban her.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by the observer » Thu, 03 Sep 2020 8:16 pm

150,000 less foreigners?

But according to Josephine Teo in parliament just this week, she said 20k less EP holders over the past few months.

I guess EP holders are a small subset of “Foreigners”

Edit: population of EP holders have dropped by 20k

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 03 Sep 2020 10:57 pm

jamie9vardy wrote:
Thu, 03 Sep 2020 7:54 pm
TropicalExpat wrote:Look up the name on google and you see an "immigration consultant"...
Yes, she said that in her post too. Was waiting for her to post a link to solicit business and for the mods to ban her.
:devil: Me was just waiting.....tic...toc...tic...toc...

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by snoopygirl » Sat, 05 Sep 2020 6:00 pm

TropicalExpat wrote:
Thu, 03 Sep 2020 6:10 pm
snoopygirl wrote:
Thu, 03 Sep 2020 5:40 pm
Hello, all:
I am asking advice from all friends on this topic, and appreciate your suggestions in advance.

I came to Singapore for a position in a MNC pharma company in 2012 August, and got my first EP. The EP has been renewed 3 times (same company) and the latest renewal was issued in June 2020 for 3 years.
As I have been staying in Singapore for 8 years, I started my PR application process and submitted on Aug 10, 2020 (my first PR application). However, my company announced an unexpected re-organization on Aug 12 and my position will be eliminated. The last day will be October 31, 2020 (and EP will be cancelled on that day), and I am now finding a job to stay in Singapore after that.

Age : 42
Race : Chinese
Nationality: Taiwanese
Gender : Female
Marital Status : Single
Education: phd in Economics (USA)
Job : Medical Affairs Associate, specialized in Health Economics, Health Technology Assessment
Length of stay : 8 years
Salary :100k+ as base salary and
Pass: EP

I spoke to my health insurance agent this afternoon about this, and she suggested me to write a letter to ICA explaining the situation, and asking whether it's possible to expedite my application of PR before my EP is cancelled. However, I saw some posts here sharing the potential negative impact if asking for expedition.

Just wondering is there anything i can do to help with this situation? Really appreciate your feedback and suggestion in advance. :)
Sorry about your circumstances.
You've already submitted the PR application. So just forget about it for now.
Get a new job first and then worry about the PR. If you get it in a short space of time, then you can just contact ICA.
The application timeline is so long (more than 12 months in some cases), so if you get a job in the meantime, they may roll your application into the new job.

Just focus on the job and good luck with the search!
Thanks a lot for your advices and encouraging words, TropicalExpat and singaporeflyer. I am doing my best to find a job and hopefully something will come up soon. Thanks again.

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