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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:04 pm

pleaseplease wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 3:34 pm
Thanks both for your wise input, my sentiments exactly about the whole job security thing at the moment, though we are now working very closely with the gov I wonder if they have any insight into how well this would pan out..

I was speaking to a counselor briefly on this and she mentioned that eventhough there are tighter restrictions on foreigners coming into SG, however the quotas remain the same (for now) so should stand an ok chance to try (?) sounds dubious
Leaving aside Quotas, my personal feel is your working duration in SG is short. You can apply and take the chances or wait for 6-12 months and apply first time and get it. Which way to go is your decision

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by jhc3838 » Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:29 pm

venton wrote:
Wed, 26 Aug 2020 2:42 pm
the observer wrote:
Wed, 26 Aug 2020 1:29 pm
jhc3838 wrote:
Wed, 26 Aug 2020 12:41 pm


After graduation she left Singapore and just recently came back 3.5 years ago
On your own, i think you have a fantastic chance.
If you had been single. You tick all the right boxes.

Being married, conventional wisdom [the old gurus here] would say you're better off applying after 2 years of marriage. And she doesn't tick some of the boxes, ie ethnicity/nationality.

A simple situation made complex.
Agree.

Coupled with the fact that she left Singapore after graduates, and now apply PR after one month of marriage.

It certainly raise a yellow flag in the ICA office.

If I were him, I'd apply on my own first. One step at a time.
Thanks guys, seems like i should apply by myself first then. Would applying now reduce my chance if i apply by myself? Or should I also wait for 2 years?

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:31 pm

jhc3838 wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:29 pm
venton wrote:
Wed, 26 Aug 2020 2:42 pm
the observer wrote:
Wed, 26 Aug 2020 1:29 pm


On your own, i think you have a fantastic chance.
If you had been single. You tick all the right boxes.

Being married, conventional wisdom [the old gurus here] would say you're better off applying after 2 years of marriage. And she doesn't tick some of the boxes, ie ethnicity/nationality.

A simple situation made complex.
Agree.

Coupled with the fact that she left Singapore after graduates, and now apply PR after one month of marriage.

It certainly raise a yellow flag in the ICA office.

If I were him, I'd apply on my own first. One step at a time.
Thanks guys, seems like i should apply by myself first then. Would applying now reduce my chance if i apply by myself? Or should I also wait for 2 years?
Tricky, because if you apply alone it may look you are not applying as a family. better to wait for 2 years and apply unless you are in a rush.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by jhc3838 » Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:41 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:31 pm
jhc3838 wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:29 pm
venton wrote:
Wed, 26 Aug 2020 2:42 pm


Agree.

Coupled with the fact that she left Singapore after graduates, and now apply PR after one month of marriage.

It certainly raise a yellow flag in the ICA office.

If I were him, I'd apply on my own first. One step at a time.
Thanks guys, seems like i should apply by myself first then. Would applying now reduce my chance if i apply by myself? Or should I also wait for 2 years?
Tricky, because if you apply alone it may look you are not applying as a family. better to wait for 2 years and apply unless you are in a rush.
thanks man, got myself into a rather complexed situation then, should have applied before marriage. Thanks anyway!

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by venton » Thu, 27 Aug 2020 9:03 pm

jhc3838 wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:41 pm
singaporeflyer wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:31 pm
jhc3838 wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:29 pm


Thanks guys, seems like i should apply by myself first then. Would applying now reduce my chance if i apply by myself? Or should I also wait for 2 years?
Tricky, because if you apply alone it may look you are not applying as a family. better to wait for 2 years and apply unless you are in a rush.
thanks man, got myself into a rather complexed situation then, should have applied before marriage. Thanks anyway!
Your combined salary is high enough to afford a private condo/soho, so I guess public housing is not the main objective for your PR application.

You are still young. Maybe can wait for a kid (if you plan so) then apply with the minor.

Or you have other concerns which we are not aware of, so make your own judgement there.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by pleaseplease » Thu, 27 Aug 2020 11:56 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:04 pm
pleaseplease wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 3:34 pm
Thanks both for your wise input, my sentiments exactly about the whole job security thing at the moment, though we are now working very closely with the gov I wonder if they have any insight into how well this would pan out..

I was speaking to a counselor briefly on this and she mentioned that eventhough there are tighter restrictions on foreigners coming into SG, however the quotas remain the same (for now) so should stand an ok chance to try (?) sounds dubious
Leaving aside Quotas, my personal feel is your working duration in SG is short. You can apply and take the chances or wait for 6-12 months and apply first time and get it. Which way to go is your decision
right gotcha, thanks!

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by wulfrum » Fri, 28 Aug 2020 8:40 pm

Hi everyone,

I'm considering applying for PR, can help me to assess my application:

Profile:
Nat: Filipino
Gender: M
Age: 31
Work Duration: 7 Years in Singapore, 9 years in total
Industry: AEC (Architecture, Engineering, and Construction)
Base Salary: 85 K (incl bonus)
Pass: EP

Thank you.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Fri, 28 Aug 2020 9:09 pm

wulfrum wrote:
Fri, 28 Aug 2020 8:40 pm
Hi everyone,

I'm considering applying for PR, can help me to assess my application:

Profile:
Nat: Filipino
Gender: M
Age: 31
Work Duration: 7 Years in Singapore, 9 years in total
Industry: AEC (Architecture, Engineering, and Construction)
Base Salary: 85 K (incl bonus)
Pass: EP

Thank you.
What is your exact job role, basic salary?

Based on what you have said your chance may be low.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 28 Aug 2020 9:29 pm

Based on your ethnicity, virtually nil.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by enya35 » Fri, 28 Aug 2020 11:59 pm

Hi everyone,

thought of putting our metadata in the mix to calculate our chances.

Main applicant:
Male 42years old
Nationality: Japanese
Ethnicity: japanese
Work: Data feeds sales specialist in fintech firm
Education: university of Tokyo, economics
Duration: 3 years in SG.
Work experience: 12y +
Base salary: 110K
Pass: EP, recently renewed to 3 year from 1 year then before that 2 year
Tax filing: 3 years


Spouse(me)
Female 36y
Nationality: Norwegian
Ethnicity: white
Work: Data analyst lead at consulting firm
Duration: 2 years 10 months in SG
work experience: 7y +
Education: BA economics in UK
Base salary: 96k from 2019, 75k before
Pass: EP 3 year from 2019, before that worked under DP
Tax filing: 3 times, but 1st time very little
Others: volunteer as python coding teacher for Singapore kids from time to time but then I see volunteering does not matter, but I still like doing it.

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One daughter 4y
Japanese national

Husband Applied in Oct 2018 for the whole family, got rejected, husband too naive

Then reapplied again 6 month Oct 2019 later through agent telling him he promised him a spot ( I specifically told him to wait, but husband believed agent) got rejected in August 2020.

I am planning to buy a private property next year to settle then apply again, but believe my husband's eagerness to settle here may have ruined our chances so needed to know.

We love it here much more cause it is easier to raise our child in mixed culture and no one looks at us funny( in Japan they stare, too homogenous lol) so would really like to continue to contribute.

I do plan to buy private property without husband as I benefit from not paying adbs as Norwegian citizen to demonstrate settling in one place.
I myself have studied and worked in 7 countries over a course of 17 years, so perhaps my profile could be considered "flight risk"?

We are in the others section, so I know our chances are slim, but appreciate if you could you help us calculating our chances and would you think that I should be main applicant in the next round after waiting perhaps 2years?

Thank you guys!

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Sat, 29 Aug 2020 12:18 am

enya35 wrote:
Fri, 28 Aug 2020 11:59 pm
Hi everyone,

thought of putting our metadata in the mix to calculate our chances.

Main applicant:
Male 42years old
Nationality: Japanese
Ethnicity: japanese
Work: Data feeds sales specialist in fintech firm
Education: university of Tokyo, economics
Duration: 3 years in SG.
Work experience: 12y +
Base salary: 110K
Pass: EP, recently renewed to 3 year from 1 year then before that 2 year
Tax filing: 3 years


Spouse(me)
Female 36y
Nationality: Norwegian
Ethnicity: white
Work: Data analyst lead at consulting firm
Duration: 2 years 10 months in SG
work experience: 7y +
Education: BA economics in UK
Base salary: 96k from 2019, 75k before
Pass: EP 3 year from 2019, before that worked under DP
Tax filing: 3 times, but 1st time very little
Others: volunteer as python coding teacher for Singapore kids from time to time but then I see volunteering does not matter, but I still like doing it.

Donates to cancer patients


One daughter 4y
Japanese national

Husband Applied in Oct 2018 for the whole family, got rejected, husband too naive

Then reapplied again 6 month Oct 2019 later through agent telling him he promised him a spot ( I specifically told him to wait, but husband believed agent) got rejected in August 2020.

I am planning to buy a private property next year to settle then apply again, but believe my husband's eagerness to settle here may have ruined our chances so needed to know.

We love it here much more cause it is easier to raise our child in mixed culture and no one looks at us funny( in Japan they stare, too homogenous lol) so would really like to continue to contribute.

I do plan to buy private property without husband as I benefit from not paying adbs as Norwegian citizen to demonstrate settling in one place.
I myself have studied and worked in 7 countries over a course of 17 years, so perhaps my profile could be considered "flight risk"?

We are in the others section, so I know our chances are slim, but appreciate if you could you help us calculating our chances and would you think that I should be main applicant in the next round after waiting perhaps 2years?

Thank you guys!
Chance is very low and less than 2-3%

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by minmint » Sat, 29 Aug 2020 2:22 pm

Hi everyone,
I am new here. I’d like to ask for your thoughts on our chance of PR application as a married couple.

Husband
— Age: 28
— Nationality: Vietnamese
— Religion: None
— Education: Bachelor degree and PhD of Science in Singapore public uni
— Work: Machine learning engineer for local e-commerce company
— Year of exp: 1 year (change job once)
— Year of stay in SG: 8 years, got 1 year in Germany due to his research in 2018 but still kept his Student Pass during that time
— Salary: 96k
— Pass: EP
— Tax filling: 1 when changed job

Wife(me)
— Age: 28
— Nationality: Vietnamese
— Religion: None
— Education: Bachelor degree of Engineering in Singapore public uni
— Work: Software Engineer for a bank
— Year of exp: 5 years ( change job twice)
— Year of stay in SG: 9 years
— Salary: 96k
— Pass: EP
— Tax filling: 4

We are married for more than 1 year without kid yet.

We are thinking of applying with my husband as main applicant because of his PhD. Or not sure if my longer working experience will be better or not?
Also, my working history with every 2 years of job change, will it be a red flag?

Would love to hear your opinions.
Thanks a lot :)

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Sat, 29 Aug 2020 6:17 pm

minmint wrote:
Sat, 29 Aug 2020 2:22 pm
Hi everyone,
I am new here. I’d like to ask for your thoughts on our chance of PR application as a married couple.

Husband
— Age: 28
— Nationality: Vietnamese
— Religion: None
— Education: Bachelor degree and PhD of Science in Singapore public uni
— Work: Machine learning engineer for local e-commerce company
— Year of exp: 1 year (change job once)
— Year of stay in SG: 8 years, got 1 year in Germany due to his research in 2018 but still kept his Student Pass during that time
— Salary: 96k
— Pass: EP
— Tax filling: 1 when changed job

Wife(me)
— Age: 28
— Nationality: Vietnamese
— Religion: None
— Education: Bachelor degree of Engineering in Singapore public uni
— Work: Software Engineer for a bank
— Year of exp: 5 years ( change job twice)
— Year of stay in SG: 9 years
— Salary: 96k
— Pass: EP
— Tax filling: 4

We are married for more than 1 year without kid yet.

We are thinking of applying with my husband as main applicant because of his PhD. Or not sure if my longer working experience will be better or not?
Also, my working history with every 2 years of job change, will it be a red flag?

Would love to hear your opinions.
Thanks a lot :)
low chance except for his PHD from local uni, which MAY seem to make it a bit positive.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by minmint » Sat, 29 Aug 2020 10:15 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Sat, 29 Aug 2020 6:17 pm
minmint wrote:
Sat, 29 Aug 2020 2:22 pm
Hi everyone,
I am new here. I’d like to ask for your thoughts on our chance of PR application as a married couple.

Husband
— Age: 28
— Nationality: Vietnamese
— Religion: None
— Education: Bachelor degree and PhD of Science in Singapore public uni
— Work: Machine learning engineer for local e-commerce company
— Year of exp: 1 year (change job once)
— Year of stay in SG: 8 years, got 1 year in Germany due to his research in 2018 but still kept his Student Pass during that time
— Salary: 96k
— Pass: EP
— Tax filling: 1 when changed job

Wife(me)
— Age: 28
— Nationality: Vietnamese
— Religion: None
— Education: Bachelor degree of Engineering in Singapore public uni
— Work: Software Engineer for a bank
— Year of exp: 5 years ( change job twice)
— Year of stay in SG: 9 years
— Salary: 96k
— Pass: EP
— Tax filling: 4

We are married for more than 1 year without kid yet.

We are thinking of applying with my husband as main applicant because of his PhD. Or not sure if my longer working experience will be better or not?
Also, my working history with every 2 years of job change, will it be a red flag?

Would love to hear your opinions.
Thanks a lot :)
low chance except for his PHD from local uni, which MAY seem to make it a bit positive.
Thank you for your answer. But his PhD and his current work are not the same fields, should we wait for 1-2 years to apply? He has been working for 1 year now and in the current company for 9 months. I saw somewhere in the forum someone said that a person should work in the same company for at least 12 or 18 months to have a better chance. Is it correct?

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by the observer » Sat, 29 Aug 2020 11:05 pm

minmint wrote:
Sat, 29 Aug 2020 10:15 pm
singaporeflyer wrote:
Sat, 29 Aug 2020 6:17 pm
minmint wrote:
Sat, 29 Aug 2020 2:22 pm
Hi everyone,
I am new here. I’d like to ask for your thoughts on our chance of PR application as a married couple.

Husband
— Age: 28
— Nationality: Vietnamese
— Religion: None
— Education: Bachelor degree and PhD of Science in Singapore public uni
— Work: Machine learning engineer for local e-commerce company
— Year of exp: 1 year (change job once)
— Year of stay in SG: 8 years, got 1 year in Germany due to his research in 2018 but still kept his Student Pass during that time
— Salary: 96k
— Pass: EP
— Tax filling: 1 when changed job

Wife(me)
— Age: 28
— Nationality: Vietnamese
— Religion: None
— Education: Bachelor degree of Engineering in Singapore public uni
— Work: Software Engineer for a bank
— Year of exp: 5 years ( change job twice)
— Year of stay in SG: 9 years
— Salary: 96k
— Pass: EP
— Tax filling: 4

We are married for more than 1 year without kid yet.

We are thinking of applying with my husband as main applicant because of his PhD. Or not sure if my longer working experience will be better or not?
Also, my working history with every 2 years of job change, will it be a red flag?

Would love to hear your opinions.
Thanks a lot :)
low chance except for his PHD from local uni, which MAY seem to make it a bit positive.
Thank you for your answer. But his PhD and his current work are not the same fields, should we wait for 1-2 years to apply? He has been working for 1 year now and in the current company for 9 months. I saw somewhere in the forum someone said that a person should work in the same company for at least 12 or 18 months to have a better chance. Is it correct?
You are classified as “Others”
Not impossible, just need a lot more effort.

My Korean friend + family got their approvals after 4-5 tries.

It will get harder this year, surely.

But take note, a recession will lead to scores of people leaving the country. PRs included.

I am of the opinion that in 2-3 years, assuming you are still in this country, it will be easier to obtain during the recovery phase.

Reason: there’s gap of PRs to plug back.

Caveat: Hugely dependent on the political situation. The online mob has a loud voice.
Deafening at times.

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