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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by pleaseplease » Thu, 27 Aug 2020 9:47 am

the observer wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 7:47 am
pleaseplease wrote:
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Hi All,

Considering this pandemic, post GE and my relatively 'new' status of work here in SG, wanted to know how long I should wait before my first attempt for a PR application.

Myself
Age: 27, Female
Nationality: Malaysian Chinese
Education: Bachelor of Arts (Honours program) from a Canadian uni
Education: Did a short 1 month exchange to NUS in between
Industry: Travel Tech (relatively young company <5 years)
Work Experience: 34 months in MY, 8 months in SG (working with the same company for 3.5 years, relocated from MY to SG office this year)
Work: Currently holding EP
Salary: 51k+ (assuming travel industry still survives till EOY)
Family: dating a SC but otherwise single on paper
First time application

I've been dreaming of this day since schooling days back in KL, I just feel so connected with the people and place here. A large part of my mum's siblings are Singaporeans here, cousins, niece etc. though the only uncles and aunt I was close with are now deceased, we used to drive down once a month to visit our relatives for a bit. I'm planning to apply for my PR sooner or later, just given the current challenging times not sure what would be the ideal time to wait out. With free time on the side now am also hoping to be able to develop a web & app to help locals discover hidden 'gems' (can't give away too much now in case it flops heh) but all in all just super stoked

Appreciate any input :) ty in advance!
That wall of text...

Pros.

Ethnic Quota.
Young.
Still gainfully employed [ :roll: ]
All the similar points being made to joi016 above.

Cons:

If i can think of one.
The pandemic + election will reduce the number of approvals for citizens and PRs across the board.
thought I should give as much context and be accurate... so best bet to apply mid next year when things died down a little..?

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by therat » Thu, 27 Aug 2020 10:28 am

foreversleepy wrote:
Wed, 26 Aug 2020 11:10 pm
Not sure why my first post was not reflecting in the thread, apologies if I double posted.

Hi all,

Any advice on my chances of getting PR will be greatly appreciated!

Myself
Age:25
Nationality: Mainland China Chinese
Education: Bachelor from local uni, in Singapore since 2010 sec sch->JC->Uni
Work: Currently holding EP, 1-year working experience in the media industry
Salary: 40k+ without bonus
Previously holding student pass, applied for PR twice, both rejected

My boyfriend
Age: 26
Nationality: SC
Education: Bachelor from a local uni
Work: Civil servant in government agency
Salary: 50k+ excluding bonus

Would like to have an idea what are the chances of me getting PR if I apply myself, and also what are my odds of getting PR if we get married and go through sponsorship route.

Thank you so much for any advice and guidance in advance!
your BF has nothing to do with your PR application.
If apply right after marriage, it will raise raise eyebrows to ICA

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by the observer » Thu, 27 Aug 2020 11:09 am

pleaseplease wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 9:47 am
the observer wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 7:47 am
pleaseplease wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 2:14 am
Hi All,

Considering this pandemic, post GE and my relatively 'new' status of work here in SG, wanted to know how long I should wait before my first attempt for a PR application.

Myself
Age: 27, Female
Nationality: Malaysian Chinese
Education: Bachelor of Arts (Honours program) from a Canadian uni
Education: Did a short 1 month exchange to NUS in between
Industry: Travel Tech (relatively young company <5 years)
Work Experience: 34 months in MY, 8 months in SG (working with the same company for 3.5 years, relocated from MY to SG office this year)
Work: Currently holding EP
Salary: 51k+ (assuming travel industry still survives till EOY)
Family: dating a SC but otherwise single on paper
First time application

I've been dreaming of this day since schooling days back in KL, I just feel so connected with the people and place here. A large part of my mum's siblings are Singaporeans here, cousins, niece etc. though the only uncles and aunt I was close with are now deceased, we used to drive down once a month to visit our relatives for a bit. I'm planning to apply for my PR sooner or later, just given the current challenging times not sure what would be the ideal time to wait out. With free time on the side now am also hoping to be able to develop a web & app to help locals discover hidden 'gems' (can't give away too much now in case it flops heh) but all in all just super stoked

Appreciate any input :) ty in advance!
That wall of text...

Pros.

Ethnic Quota.
Young.
Still gainfully employed [ :roll: ]
All the similar points being made to joi016 above.

Cons:

If i can think of one.
The pandemic + election will reduce the number of approvals for citizens and PRs across the board.
thought I should give as much context and be accurate... so best bet to apply mid next year when things died down a little..?
If I were you, I'd apply now regardless.

Even with lesser approvals granted this year, the elephant's share of PRs are still going to be granted to your kind of profile.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 27 Aug 2020 1:36 pm

Theoretically, I would agree with 'the observer'. The only codicil I would add would be be prepared for a rejection only because of the short stay and employment history 'in Singapore' I'd probably wait until at least a full year of employment even though you are a prime candidate. However, if you apply now, go into it with the likelihood of rejection based only on the time frame and not on your ethnicity, nationality, gender or qualifications (all perfect). If you are successful, it's a definite win under dicey times. Good Luck.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by the observer » Thu, 27 Aug 2020 1:41 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 1:36 pm
Theoretically, I would agree with 'the observer'. The only codicil I would add would be be prepared for a rejection only because of the short stay and employment history 'in Singapore' I'd probably wait until at least a full year of employment even though you are a prime candidate. However, if you apply now, go into it with the likelihood of rejection based only on the time frame and not on your ethnicity, nationality, gender or qualifications (all perfect). If you are successful, it's a definite win under dicey times. Good Luck.
If i might add, if she loses her job, chances sink all the way down to zero.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 27 Aug 2020 2:03 pm

Yep, that was the whole reason behind my response as well but just didn't say it. I figured 12 months stay would give enough time (beginning of 2021?) to see some "green lanes" start to percolate. One can only hope!

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by pleaseplease » Thu, 27 Aug 2020 3:34 pm

Thanks both for your wise input, my sentiments exactly about the whole job security thing at the moment, though we are now working very closely with the gov I wonder if they have any insight into how well this would pan out..

I was speaking to a counselor briefly on this and she mentioned that eventhough there are tighter restrictions on foreigners coming into SG, however the quotas remain the same (for now) so should stand an ok chance to try (?) sounds dubious

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:04 pm

pleaseplease wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 3:34 pm
Thanks both for your wise input, my sentiments exactly about the whole job security thing at the moment, though we are now working very closely with the gov I wonder if they have any insight into how well this would pan out..

I was speaking to a counselor briefly on this and she mentioned that eventhough there are tighter restrictions on foreigners coming into SG, however the quotas remain the same (for now) so should stand an ok chance to try (?) sounds dubious
Leaving aside Quotas, my personal feel is your working duration in SG is short. You can apply and take the chances or wait for 6-12 months and apply first time and get it. Which way to go is your decision

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by jhc3838 » Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:29 pm

venton wrote:
Wed, 26 Aug 2020 2:42 pm
the observer wrote:
Wed, 26 Aug 2020 1:29 pm
jhc3838 wrote:
Wed, 26 Aug 2020 12:41 pm


After graduation she left Singapore and just recently came back 3.5 years ago
On your own, i think you have a fantastic chance.
If you had been single. You tick all the right boxes.

Being married, conventional wisdom [the old gurus here] would say you're better off applying after 2 years of marriage. And she doesn't tick some of the boxes, ie ethnicity/nationality.

A simple situation made complex.
Agree.

Coupled with the fact that she left Singapore after graduates, and now apply PR after one month of marriage.

It certainly raise a yellow flag in the ICA office.

If I were him, I'd apply on my own first. One step at a time.
Thanks guys, seems like i should apply by myself first then. Would applying now reduce my chance if i apply by myself? Or should I also wait for 2 years?

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:31 pm

jhc3838 wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:29 pm
venton wrote:
Wed, 26 Aug 2020 2:42 pm
the observer wrote:
Wed, 26 Aug 2020 1:29 pm


On your own, i think you have a fantastic chance.
If you had been single. You tick all the right boxes.

Being married, conventional wisdom [the old gurus here] would say you're better off applying after 2 years of marriage. And she doesn't tick some of the boxes, ie ethnicity/nationality.

A simple situation made complex.
Agree.

Coupled with the fact that she left Singapore after graduates, and now apply PR after one month of marriage.

It certainly raise a yellow flag in the ICA office.

If I were him, I'd apply on my own first. One step at a time.
Thanks guys, seems like i should apply by myself first then. Would applying now reduce my chance if i apply by myself? Or should I also wait for 2 years?
Tricky, because if you apply alone it may look you are not applying as a family. better to wait for 2 years and apply unless you are in a rush.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by jhc3838 » Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:41 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:31 pm
jhc3838 wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:29 pm
venton wrote:
Wed, 26 Aug 2020 2:42 pm


Agree.

Coupled with the fact that she left Singapore after graduates, and now apply PR after one month of marriage.

It certainly raise a yellow flag in the ICA office.

If I were him, I'd apply on my own first. One step at a time.
Thanks guys, seems like i should apply by myself first then. Would applying now reduce my chance if i apply by myself? Or should I also wait for 2 years?
Tricky, because if you apply alone it may look you are not applying as a family. better to wait for 2 years and apply unless you are in a rush.
thanks man, got myself into a rather complexed situation then, should have applied before marriage. Thanks anyway!

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by venton » Thu, 27 Aug 2020 9:03 pm

jhc3838 wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:41 pm
singaporeflyer wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:31 pm
jhc3838 wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:29 pm


Thanks guys, seems like i should apply by myself first then. Would applying now reduce my chance if i apply by myself? Or should I also wait for 2 years?
Tricky, because if you apply alone it may look you are not applying as a family. better to wait for 2 years and apply unless you are in a rush.
thanks man, got myself into a rather complexed situation then, should have applied before marriage. Thanks anyway!
Your combined salary is high enough to afford a private condo/soho, so I guess public housing is not the main objective for your PR application.

You are still young. Maybe can wait for a kid (if you plan so) then apply with the minor.

Or you have other concerns which we are not aware of, so make your own judgement there.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by pleaseplease » Thu, 27 Aug 2020 11:56 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 6:04 pm
pleaseplease wrote:
Thu, 27 Aug 2020 3:34 pm
Thanks both for your wise input, my sentiments exactly about the whole job security thing at the moment, though we are now working very closely with the gov I wonder if they have any insight into how well this would pan out..

I was speaking to a counselor briefly on this and she mentioned that eventhough there are tighter restrictions on foreigners coming into SG, however the quotas remain the same (for now) so should stand an ok chance to try (?) sounds dubious
Leaving aside Quotas, my personal feel is your working duration in SG is short. You can apply and take the chances or wait for 6-12 months and apply first time and get it. Which way to go is your decision
right gotcha, thanks!

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by wulfrum » Fri, 28 Aug 2020 8:40 pm

Hi everyone,

I'm considering applying for PR, can help me to assess my application:

Profile:
Nat: Filipino
Gender: M
Age: 31
Work Duration: 7 Years in Singapore, 9 years in total
Industry: AEC (Architecture, Engineering, and Construction)
Base Salary: 85 K (incl bonus)
Pass: EP

Thank you.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Fri, 28 Aug 2020 9:09 pm

wulfrum wrote:
Fri, 28 Aug 2020 8:40 pm
Hi everyone,

I'm considering applying for PR, can help me to assess my application:

Profile:
Nat: Filipino
Gender: M
Age: 31
Work Duration: 7 Years in Singapore, 9 years in total
Industry: AEC (Architecture, Engineering, and Construction)
Base Salary: 85 K (incl bonus)
Pass: EP

Thank you.
What is your exact job role, basic salary?

Based on what you have said your chance may be low.

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