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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by YunaV02 » Wed, 03 Mar 2021 11:21 am

Jacie wrote:
Mon, 01 Mar 2021 10:36 pm
singaporeflyer wrote:
Mon, 01 Mar 2021 10:20 pm
Jacie wrote:
Mon, 01 Mar 2021 10:02 pm


Hi Singaporeflyer, my husband is not my sponsor. I apply it by my own. Noted that I no need to give my husband’s family details. In this case, do I need to provide my husband details as well? Or ICA will be able to retrieve my husband details on their own?

The letter indicate:
Detailed full curriculum vitae of your family members ie parents and siblings.

Thank you!
They asked only YOURS, they didnt ask for your husband family details. I guess you are complicating things in my view. if you want to give your husband family details and not take our views, then I am not sure why you are asking us for views here. Already 2-3 persons have told that just yours is enough and you fail to accept this view.
Hi SingaporeFlyer

Just want to confirm before submitting! Anyway thanks for your advise.
All the best! Good that you receive follow up email from ICA. Did you send email to ICA to check on the status? I’m wondering shud i email them.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by Jacie » Wed, 03 Mar 2021 12:23 pm

YunaV02 wrote:
Wed, 03 Mar 2021 11:21 am
Jacie wrote:
Mon, 01 Mar 2021 10:36 pm
singaporeflyer wrote:
Mon, 01 Mar 2021 10:20 pm


They asked only YOURS, they didnt ask for your husband family details. I guess you are complicating things in my view. if you want to give your husband family details and not take our views, then I am not sure why you are asking us for views here. Already 2-3 persons have told that just yours is enough and you fail to accept this view.
Hi SingaporeFlyer

Just want to confirm before submitting! Anyway thanks for your advise.
All the best! Good that you receive follow up email from ICA. Did you send email to ICA to check on the status? I’m wondering shud i email them.
Hi YunaV02

Thanks! I emailed and updated them about my pass renewal and salary updates. But I didn’t really ask to check on the status. Do you have any latest info to update them, you can try to email them if you have? Not sure if this helps.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by kozizi » Wed, 03 Mar 2021 10:20 pm

ScotinSG wrote:
Sat, 06 Jun 2020 3:25 pm
Thank you very much SingaporeFlyer and Jamie9Vardy

I am employed rather than a business owner so that seems like it would lessen my chances.

Ironically one of the main drivers for wanting to get PR is to facilitate property purchase so I can stay here permanently even after the children finish school. But the government are unlikely to be able to ascertain that.
Did you apply and get an outcome?

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by DayalKanna » Thu, 04 Mar 2021 12:54 am

Hi SMS/SF & Jamie,

Can you kindly offer your opinion/feedback on Singapore PR for our case?

Nationality: Indian (Tamil)
Age: 37
Race: Tamil
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married (7 years)
Applying for: Family (Spouse + 5 year girl child - Born in SG and attending Pre school)
Education: Master Of Computer Application from a Reputed University , Master Of Business Administration
Length of stay in SG: 8 years
Pass type: EP
Occupation: IT - Technology Lead (coding/software development)
Salary: S$87k + S$9k allowance
Work experience: 13 years
SG Tax Assesment: 7 years, coming to 8

Wife is on DP

Family ties:
Elder brother - Singapore citizen

Applied and rejected thrice before. Last rejection was in April 2019.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 04 Mar 2021 10:16 am

DayalKanna wrote:
Thu, 04 Mar 2021 12:54 am
Hi SMS/SF & Jamie,

Can you kindly offer your opinion/feedback on Singapore PR for our case?

Nationality: Indian (Tamil)
Age: 37
Race: Tamil
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married (7 years)
Applying for: Family (Spouse + 5 year girl child - Born in SG and attending Pre school)
Education: Master Of Computer Application from a Reputed University , Master Of Business Administration
Length of stay in SG: 8 years
Pass type: EP
Occupation: IT - Technology Lead (coding/software development)
Salary: S$87k + S$9k allowance
Work experience: 13 years
SG Tax Assesment: 7 years, coming to 8

Wife is on DP

Family ties:
Elder brother - Singapore citizen

Applied and rejected thrice before. Last rejection was in April 2019.
Not going to be easy
Reason
Ethnicity and salary on lower side.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by Tracy_87 » Thu, 04 Mar 2021 10:31 am

Hi All,

Appreciate if you can share some thought about my current situation.
Please see below for my details.

Nationality: Malaysian Chinese
Age: 33
Race: Chinese
Gender: Female
Marital status: Single
Applying for: Myself
Education: Bachelor (Hons) Degree in Mechatronics Engineering
Length of stay in SG: 4.5 years
Pass type: EP
Occupation: Business Analyst
Salary: S$83k + equity
Work experience: 11 years
SG Tax Assesment: 4 years including this year.

I applied for PR on early Feb this year.
While waiting for the result, my company just reached out to me and say they could not renew my EP which is expiring on May, as it is rejected by MOM. So they will need to offer me a WP as they no longer have quota for SP.
Just checking if the downgrade will impact my PR approval as I know WP is not eligible for PR application.
If my PR wasn't approved before my EP is expired, is it a 100% rejection? or even if it is approved, I will not be able to do the formalities as my qualification had changed?

Thanks in advance for the time spent to look into this.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by DayalKanna » Thu, 04 Mar 2021 12:19 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Thu, 04 Mar 2021 10:16 am
DayalKanna wrote:
Thu, 04 Mar 2021 12:54 am
Hi SMS/SF & Jamie,

Can you kindly offer your opinion/feedback on Singapore PR for our case?

Nationality: Indian (Tamil)
Age: 37
Race: Tamil
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married (7 years)
Applying for: Family (Spouse + 5 year girl child - Born in SG and attending Pre school)
Education: Master Of Computer Application from a Reputed University , Master Of Business Administration
Length of stay in SG: 8 years
Pass type: EP
Occupation: IT - Technology Lead (coding/software development)
Salary: S$87k + S$9k allowance
Work experience: 13 years
SG Tax Assesment: 7 years, coming to 8

Wife is on DP

Family ties:
Elder brother - Singapore citizen

Applied and rejected thrice before. Last rejection was in April 2019.
Not going to be easy
Reason
Ethnicity and salary on lower side.
Hello SMS/SF,

Can you help give an insight on the below topics please?
1.What is the preferred ethnicity for Indians?
2.What is the salary range expected?
3.Does SRS account,SSB,Insurance policy add any benefit?
4.What are the options to prove commitment..donations/volunteering?
Last edited by DayalKanna on Thu, 04 Mar 2021 12:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by maddyjojo » Thu, 04 Mar 2021 12:22 pm

Hi, I received similar email from ICA, but i was asked to submit CV as below. In your case they only asks for urs so doesnt requires to provide husband CV.
I also couldnt root all the way back to my parents career started, i filled which only they can remember.
Outcome is still pending. Chances are 50-50 for me

The detailed full curriculum vitae of your family members i.e. wife, parents
and siblings (to include your parents’ employment history before
retirement, if applicable);
b) The detailed full curriculum vitae of your wife’s family members i.e. parents
and siblings (to include parents’ employment history before retirement, if
applicable).
singaporeflyer wrote:
Mon, 01 Mar 2021 10:20 pm
Jacie wrote:
Mon, 01 Mar 2021 10:02 pm


Hi Singaporeflyer, my husband is not my sponsor. I apply it by my own. Noted that I no need to give my husband’s family details. In this case, do I need to provide my husband details as well? Or ICA will be able to retrieve my husband details on their own?

The letter indicate:
Detailed full curriculum vitae of your family members ie parents and siblings.

Thank you!
They asked only YOURS, they didnt ask for your husband family details. I guess you are complicating things in my view. if you want to give your husband family details and not take our views, then I am not sure why you are asking us for views here. Already 2-3 persons have told that just yours is enough and you fail to accept this view.
Hi SingaporeFlyer

Just want to confirm before submitting! Anyway thanks for your advise.
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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 04 Mar 2021 1:22 pm

DayalKanna wrote:
Thu, 04 Mar 2021 12:19 pm
singaporeflyer wrote:
Thu, 04 Mar 2021 10:16 am


Not going to be easy
Reason
Ethnicity and salary on lower side.
Hello SMS/SF,

Can you help give an insight on the below topics please?
1.What is the preferred ethnicity for Indians?
2.What is the salary range expected?
3.Does SRS account,SSB,Insurance policy add any benefit?
4.What are the options to prove commitment..donations/volunteering?
1. Anything but Indian or Caucasian. Indians are the smallest demographic by ethnicity. Quotas are set based on keeping the demographics of SG the same. However, the vast majority of applicants for PR are from the smallest ethnic demographic (Indian). This means you are competing from the smallest number of places with the largest number of applicants. As your salary is low, comparatively speaking with others in your ethnic group, this makes your chances low. You cannot change your ethnicity, sad to say.

2. Salary range? Probably 120~250K/pa. Start getting into C levels and you start getting doubts by ICA as to whether or not you will stay as people start following the money internationally.

3. Absolutely no benefit.

4. the volunteering/donations route was screwed by your own countrymen in the past few decades as they would join organizations only for the piece of paper. As soon as they got their PR, never seen again. Now, it's a waste of time as it as been proven that for the most part there is absolutely nothing altruistic about it. It's just a ploy to gain PR or SGC. You question is exactly what I'm talking about. You are only interested in charity on a quid pro quo basis, e.g., what can "I" get out of it. Nothing altruistic about it.

I think persistence is your only hope but looking at the latest coming from the government, I think I'd be more worried about keeping your EP.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by Jacie » Thu, 04 Mar 2021 9:38 pm

Hi Maddyjojo

Thanks! How long have you submitted for the CV?
Haven’t get result yet? Ur Pr application have been pending for how long?
maddyjojo wrote:
Thu, 04 Mar 2021 12:22 pm
Hi, I received similar email from ICA, but i was asked to submit CV as below. In your case they only asks for urs so doesnt requires to provide husband CV.
I also couldnt root all the way back to my parents career started, i filled which only they can remember.
Outcome is still pending. Chances are 50-50 for me

The detailed full curriculum vitae of your family members i.e. wife, parents
and siblings (to include your parents’ employment history before
retirement, if applicable);
b) The detailed full curriculum vitae of your wife’s family members i.e. parents
and siblings (to include parents’ employment history before retirement, if
applicable).
singaporeflyer wrote:
Mon, 01 Mar 2021 10:20 pm
Jacie wrote:
Mon, 01 Mar 2021 10:02 pm


Hi Singaporeflyer, my husband is not my sponsor. I apply it by my own. Noted that I no need to give my husband’s family details. In this case, do I need to provide my husband details as well? Or ICA will be able to retrieve my husband details on their own?

The letter indicate:
Detailed full curriculum vitae of your family members ie parents and siblings.

Thank you!
They asked only YOURS, they didnt ask for your husband family details. I guess you are complicating things in my view. if you want to give your husband family details and not take our views, then I am not sure why you are asking us for views here. Already 2-3 persons have told that just yours is enough and you fail to accept this view.
Hi SingaporeFlyer

Just want to confirm before submitting! Anyway thanks for your advise.
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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by YunaV02 » Thu, 04 Mar 2021 11:25 pm

Jacie wrote:
Wed, 03 Mar 2021 12:23 pm
YunaV02 wrote:
Wed, 03 Mar 2021 11:21 am
Jacie wrote:
Mon, 01 Mar 2021 10:36 pm


Hi SingaporeFlyer

Just want to confirm before submitting! Anyway thanks for your advise.
All the best! Good that you receive follow up email from ICA. Did you send email to ICA to check on the status? I’m wondering shud i email them.
Hi YunaV02

Thanks! I emailed and updated them about my pass renewal and salary updates. But I didn’t really ask to check on the status. Do you have any latest info to update them, you can try to email them if you have? Not sure if this helps.
i just updated them in Oct about my passport renewal. In that case, I will just wait patiently then. Thanks for the info!

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by novaandbong » Fri, 05 Mar 2021 3:38 am

Hi just want to give everyone an update in case it helps.

We applied in March 2020. During the application, both of us changed jobs and we inform ICA promptly. I received a total bump of 30k a year and my husband received another 36-40k bump. We stay in the same vertical, just different companies.

In Feb 2021 (11 months in), we were asked to submit additional documents:
- another filled form 4A for me (main applicant)
- HR letter stating last 6 months salary plus bonus/overtime/allowance etc (both husband and myself)
- last 4 months payslips (both my husband and myself)
- EPs (both my husband and myself)
- my mother in law’s CV only. No other family members were asked.

We submitted it a few days after receiving the letter from ICA.
Pending still. Soon to be one year full of waiting. Nothing else to do but to stay super patient.
Not sure the odds on this one but I’ll update here when the result is in.

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novaandbong wrote:
Sat, 04 Jul 2020 4:33 pm
Hi all, I would hope to hear about my chance for PR

Myself (main applicant) - first time applicant

Country of Origin: VN
Ethnicity: VN
Education: NUS High School (4 years), NTU (4 years)
Age: late 20s
Married: Yes 3 years
Kids: No
Work Yrs in SG: Total 5 yrs - 4 times paying tax
Work: tech - big foreign MNC
Pay: 115k base, over 200k gross
Pass: Student Pass then EP
Time in Singapore: 14 years

My husband: - second time applicant. Tried a couple of years back but was rejected, likely due to low pay
Country of Origin: VN
Ethnicity: VN
Education: ACS(I) (4 years), NTU (4 years)
Age: late 20s
Work Yrs in SG: Total 5 yrs - 4 times paying tax
Work: Insurance underwriter - big foreign MNC
Pay: 90k base, 110k gross
Pass: Student Pass then EP
Time in Singapore: 13 years

Thank you!

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by maddyjojo » Fri, 05 Mar 2021 8:20 am

Hi Jacie,

I submitted additional documents end of Dec 2020. Application is still pending.
Nearing 1 year now in total. I guess it will take much longer either for rejection or approval. Patience is the only option.
Jacie wrote:
Thu, 04 Mar 2021 9:38 pm
Hi Maddyjojo

Thanks! How long have you submitted for the CV?
Haven’t get result yet? Ur Pr application have been pending for how long?
maddyjojo wrote:
Thu, 04 Mar 2021 12:22 pm
Hi, I received similar email from ICA, but i was asked to submit CV as below. In your case they only asks for urs so doesnt requires to provide husband CV.
I also couldnt root all the way back to my parents career started, i filled which only they can remember.
Outcome is still pending. Chances are 50-50 for me

The detailed full curriculum vitae of your family members i.e. wife, parents
and siblings (to include your parents’ employment history before
retirement, if applicable);
b) The detailed full curriculum vitae of your wife’s family members i.e. parents
and siblings (to include parents’ employment history before retirement, if
applicable).
singaporeflyer wrote:
Mon, 01 Mar 2021 10:20 pm


They asked only YOURS, they didnt ask for your husband family details. I guess you are complicating things in my view. if you want to give your husband family details and not take our views, then I am not sure why you are asking us for views here. Already 2-3 persons have told that just yours is enough and you fail to accept this view.
Hi SingaporeFlyer

Just want to confirm before submitting! Anyway thanks for your advise.
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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by seinfield852 » Sun, 07 Mar 2021 3:02 pm

Hi all,

I applied in Aug 2019 and subsequently updated ICA when I received increments (once) and moved houses (twice). I am yet to hear back. Anyone else been waiting 18+ months?

Thank you.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by Jana123 » Sun, 07 Mar 2021 4:25 pm

Hi All,

Im Jana from Sri Lanka. Since 2015 im working in Singapore and currently, I'm in S Pass. Recently(6 months) married to Singapore Citizen (born in Singapore) and we purchased a Flat (HDB) as well. My wife applied for My PR (Spouse sponsor) and I would like to know will there be changes to get approval.

My details
Age 32
Occupation: Quantity Surveyor (Construction Sector)
Salary: 48000 per annum

Wife Details
Age 30
Occupation; Occupational therapist (health care sector)
Salary; 80000 per annum

Thank you in advance.

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