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PR approval chance in 2020

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 03 Aug 2020 3:23 pm

An ABC is not considered ethnicity wise unless they are Malaysian Chinese (1st choice), Indonesian Chinese (2nd choice) and everybody else somewhere in the line. The reason is primarily that Malaysian Chinese are easily assimilated into the local Chinese culture as culturally both are very similar. Indonesian are probably the next easiest for assimilation purposes. Oddly enough PRCs are the hardest to assimilate here are have the hardest time gaining PR (as an ethnic Chinese). ABC's (US & Aus) & BBCs and CBCs find it more difficult as they are culturally usually more Western rather than Asian. Not to say it would be a negative, but is will be a null factor. Add to that, you are both in an industry that is very portable and if you are in a high income bracket (250~300Kpa and up) The government has had too many of these types take up PR only to bail out when their company parachutes them into another country. I wish you luck but we have seen way too many of these types of rejections over the past 10 years here. You have also applied way too soon.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by Liketacos » Mon, 03 Aug 2020 4:02 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Mon, 03 Aug 2020 3:23 pm
An ABC is not considered ethnicity wise unless they are Malaysian Chinese (1st choice), Indonesian Chinese (2nd choice) and everybody else somewhere in the line. The reason is primarily that Malaysian Chinese are easily assimilated into the local Chinese culture as culturally both are very similar. Indonesian are probably the next easiest for assimilation purposes. Oddly enough PRCs are the hardest to assimilate here are have the hardest time gaining PR (as an ethnic Chinese). ABC's (US & Aus) & BBCs and CBCs find it more difficult as they are culturally usually more Western rather than Asian. Not to say it would be a negative, but is will be a null factor. Add to that, you are both in an industry that is very portable and if you are in a high income bracket (250~300Kpa and up) The government has had too many of these types take up PR only to bail out when their company parachutes them into another country. I wish you luck but we have seen way too many of these types of rejections over the past 10 years here. You have also applied way too soon.
Thanks for your explanation. Wish I asked you for advice before I submitted my application last year. Haha

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 03 Aug 2020 5:14 pm

We have been trying to "pay it forward" for the past 15 years or so. People like PNGMK and myself date back to years before this forum was formed. Most of our long term regulars have been on the board at least 7 or 8 years or more ad we have a wide range of specialties. We have seen the occasional approvals that has taken us by surprise on occasion, to be honest, some that have had us scratching our heads, but most of our data is anecdotally derived from our regulars/readers so while it's not 100% and we don't have an inside track to ICA or MOM, we do pretty good and there is a literal encyclopedia of knowledge in these threads and the search engine on the board is pretty good. Good Luck.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by Fazalsg » Tue, 04 Aug 2020 1:05 am

Thanks all for your support on this forum , much appreciated.
Indian
In singapore since 2009, on EP
Working in IT Banking on data analytics And compliance
Salary :140K
Wife not working
1 kid boy 6 years , goes to local school
Applied thrice Earlier, 2013,2014,2016 rejected
Applied in Aug 2019, still pending.
Age :36 years
Married for 8 years , with family in SG all this while
Education: both of us Engineers IT

Is longer wait time good or bad ?

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 04 Aug 2020 11:18 am

Duration of wait is no indication whatsoever as to prospects of approval or rejection.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by Fazalsg » Tue, 04 Aug 2020 11:34 am

Thank you , how do you see chances of approval for by profile ?

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 04 Aug 2020 11:43 am

To be honest? Not good. You were rejected 3x during non-critical periods. Now you are in the middle of an epidemic and high unemployment (currently the highest local unemployment in over 10 years. This means more weightage will be given to locals to get them re-employed. This is always a danger point for EP & S pass holders as criteria tightens up. All you can do at the moment take your chances but you also must look at it holistically considering the world economic and pandemic situation. Countries have to take care of their own first. Good Luck. I think you may need it.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by pandaexpress » Tue, 04 Aug 2020 1:36 pm

Hi, have been a long time unregistered lurker. Please help me rate my chances (which I understand were good prior to the GE) of getting a PR.

Mid 20s, female
Nationality: Malaysian Chinese
Occupation: Medical doctor
Education: Medical school in Australia
Salary: $6k/month
Family: single, no children
Duration of work in Singapore: 6 months
First time application

Have heard a lot from Malaysian medical friends getting their PRs in 1st go applying after 6 months of work but this has been a few years back. Keen to know what the sentiment is like now especially after the GE. Thank you.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by the observer » Tue, 04 Aug 2020 1:50 pm

pandaexpress wrote:
Tue, 04 Aug 2020 1:36 pm
Hi, have been a long time unregistered lurker. Please help me rate my chances (which I understand were good prior to the GE) of getting a PR.

Mid 20s, female
Nationality: Malaysian Chinese
Occupation: Medical doctor
Education: Medical school in Australia
Salary: $6k/month
Family: single, no children
Duration of work in Singapore: 6 months
First time application

Have heard a lot from Malaysian medical friends getting their PRs in 1st go applying after 6 months of work but this has been a few years back. Keen to know what the sentiment is like now especially after the GE. Thank you.
You really had to ask??
Even as a silent observer, I had to chip in for this


Objectively

Mid 20s, female [Yes, for being young]
Nationality: Malaysian Chinese [Target candidate and ethnicity]
Occupation: Medical doctor [Can't go wrong with this vocation]
Education: Medical school in Australia [Can't go wrong]
Salary: $6k/month [I mean you're a doctor, sure whatever]
Family: single, no children [Hopefully not forever]
Duration of work in Singapore: 6 months [who cares really]
First time application

In honesty, I think you're a shoo-in to become a citizen.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by riseasian123 » Tue, 04 Aug 2020 7:41 pm

Hi everyone!
Please help me rate my chances.

Filipino
Male
35
Single
S-pass
Been here working in Sg For 9 years
Healthcare sector: Senior Staff Nurse
Basic Salary: 4,100
Annual Net: 70k
Applied Once 2016- rejected
Applied again this January 2020- awaiting for the result u til now
Latest 2020 tax payment: 2568sgd

given the cureent situation of covid-19 are they considering atleast getting PR from healthcare sector frontliners?

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Wed, 05 Aug 2020 12:54 am

riseasian123 wrote:
Tue, 04 Aug 2020 7:41 pm
Hi everyone!
Please help me rate my chances.

Filipino
Male
35
Single
S-pass
Been here working in Sg For 9 years
Healthcare sector: Senior Staff Nurse
Basic Salary: 4,100
Annual Net: 70k
Applied Once 2016- rejected
Applied again this January 2020- awaiting for the result u til now
Latest 2020 tax payment: 2568sgd

given the cureent situation of covid-19 are they considering atleast getting PR from healthcare sector frontliners?
You may have 20-25% chance due to your nature of work.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by Liketacos » Wed, 05 Aug 2020 11:32 am

Wondering if anyone knows how many PR applications are reviewed annually. Wanted to put the 30K or so PR approvals into perspective. Thank you!

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by YugiChala » Wed, 05 Aug 2020 11:48 am

Fazalsg wrote:
Tue, 04 Aug 2020 1:05 am
Thanks all for your support on this forum , much appreciated.
Indian
In singapore since 2009, on EP
Working in IT Banking on data analytics And compliance
Salary :140K
Wife not working
1 kid boy 6 years , goes to local school
Applied thrice Earlier, 2013,2014,2016 rejected
Applied in Aug 2019, still pending.
Age :36 years
Married for 8 years , with family in SG all this while
Education: both of us Engineers IT

Is longer wait time good or bad ?
I don't have the benefit of seeing all the anecdotal evidences over the years that some of the long time members here have but your profile is similar to mine so I'll add my opinion.

Your length of stay and kid going to local school should give a good indication of your integration in community. I think in terms of age and pay you are around what seems to be the expectation. Frequent application in past, nationality/race and lack of masters may be cause of concern. Two of those things you can't change now but education/qualification is something you could work upon I guess. Working on improving your pay and skill could help to give you a decent chance in future even if your application is not successful this time around. Best of luck!

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by lisa.hibbard » Wed, 05 Aug 2020 1:18 pm

Hi,

I'm planning to apply for PR soon and would like to gauge my chances during this time.

24 yo female
Eurasian
Occupation: Assistant Producer
Education: PSLE, O'Levels, Diploma from govt polytechnic all taken in Singapore
Salary: $3k/month
Family: Single, no children
Duration living in Singapore: 15 years
Duration of work in Singapore: Close to 2 years
First time application

Thank you for your input

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by Test00 » Wed, 05 Aug 2020 3:22 pm

I am really glad I found this forum I was feeling like I will have to fish for it all alone. Thanks to the moderators for your dedication.

I want to know my chances of approval and whether if I should be applying for PR at this point or at any point in the future. I first came to SG in Sep 2019 (11 months back)

I was told by paul immigration agency that my chances are very good and I should apply immediately. I don't want to trust them blindly as they are charging 5.5K

Age : (37 Dec'20)
Race : Indian
Gender : Male
Marital Status : Married with 2 yr old (wife n daughter is presently in India)
Religion : Hindu
Education : Bachelors of Commerce, India
Current Field of Work : Information Systems Security
Length of stay : Less than 1 yr
No of tax return : Will pay my first return this month
Salary : 8K (10% temp reduction due to covid)
Pass : EP

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