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Re: PR approval probability 2020

Post by justinquisitive » Wed, 10 Jun 2020 9:45 pm

Hello, Would like to know your thoughts on our PR application probability -

Our profile

MALE
Age : 31
Ethnicity : Indian
Degree : Bachelors in Engineering (India) & Masters of Science (Singapore - NUS)
Years of stay : 6 (1 study + 5 work)
Annual income : +65K w variable bonus
Work area : Research institute in local university
Role : Research associate > Project manager (promoted after 3 years)
IT assessment : 4

My Spouse

FEMALE
Age : 30
Ethnicity : Indian
Degree : Bachelors in Law (India) & Masters of Laws (Singapore - NUS)
Years of stay : 3 (1 study + 3 work)
Annual income : +90K w variable bonus
Work area : International arbitration - local law firm
Role : Associate lawyer
IT assessment : 2

Application history -
1. I applied once when I was single 2 years back and was rejected after 6 months.
2. Applied second time as a couple, Sep last year with me as main applicant, rejected recently after 6 months.

Wanted to know what we could add to our application for acceptance and when would be a good time to apply again. We have social ties here - Aunt, Uncle, cousins who are SC, dunno if it helps.

Appreciate any inputs! Thanks.

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Re: PR approval probability 2020

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 10 Jun 2020 10:08 pm

If not any "MAJOR" changes, as you are a researcher, you should know, same data in, same data out. Wait for 2 years then try again.

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Re: PR approval probability 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Wed, 10 Jun 2020 10:12 pm

justinquisitive wrote:
Wed, 10 Jun 2020 9:45 pm
Hello, Would like to know your thoughts on our PR application probability -

Our profile

MALE
Age : 31
Ethnicity : Indian
Degree : Bachelors in Engineering (India) & Masters of Science (Singapore - NUS)
Years of stay : 6 (1 study + 5 work)
Annual income : +65K w variable bonus
Work area : Research institute in local university
Role : Research associate > Project manager (promoted after 3 years)
IT assessment : 4

My Spouse

FEMALE
Age : 30
Ethnicity : Indian
Degree : Bachelors in Law (India) & Masters of Laws (Singapore - NUS)
Years of stay : 3 (1 study + 3 work)
Annual income : +90K w variable bonus
Work area : International arbitration - local law firm
Role : Associate lawyer
IT assessment : 2

Application history -
1. I applied once when I was single 2 years back and was rejected after 6 months.
2. Applied second time as a couple, Sep last year with me as main applicant, rejected recently after 6 months.

Wanted to know what we could add to our application for acceptance and when would be a good time to apply again. We have social ties here - Aunt, Uncle, cousins who are SC, dunno if it helps.

Appreciate any inputs! Thanks.
Things that may not be positive
1. Salary for main applicant on the lower side
2. Ethnicity

Make some good progression in career, salary, etc and then reapply after 2-3 years.
SC - Aunt, Uncle, Cousins - Does not add any points in the application.

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Re: PR approval probability 2020

Post by justinquisitive » Wed, 10 Jun 2020 11:52 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Wed, 10 Jun 2020 10:08 pm
If not any "MAJOR" changes, as you are a researcher, you should know, same data in, same data out. Wait for 2 years then try again.
Sure understand, Thanks!

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Re: PR approval probability 2020

Post by justinquisitive » Wed, 10 Jun 2020 11:54 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
Wed, 10 Jun 2020 10:12 pm
justinquisitive wrote:
Wed, 10 Jun 2020 9:45 pm
Hello, Would like to know your thoughts on our PR application probability -

Our profile

MALE
Age : 31
Ethnicity : Indian
Degree : Bachelors in Engineering (India) & Masters of Science (Singapore - NUS)
Years of stay : 6 (1 study + 5 work)
Annual income : +65K w variable bonus
Work area : Research institute in local university
Role : Research associate > Project manager (promoted after 3 years)
IT assessment : 4

My Spouse

FEMALE
Age : 30
Ethnicity : Indian
Degree : Bachelors in Law (India) & Masters of Laws (Singapore - NUS)
Years of stay : 3 (1 study + 3 work)
Annual income : +90K w variable bonus
Work area : International arbitration - local law firm
Role : Associate lawyer
IT assessment : 2

Application history -
1. I applied once when I was single 2 years back and was rejected after 6 months.
2. Applied second time as a couple, Sep last year with me as main applicant, rejected recently after 6 months.

Wanted to know what we could add to our application for acceptance and when would be a good time to apply again. We have social ties here - Aunt, Uncle, cousins who are SC, dunno if it helps.

Appreciate any inputs! Thanks.
Things that may not be positive
1. Salary for main applicant on the lower side
2. Ethnicity

Make some good progression in career, salary, etc and then reapply after 2-3 years.
SC - Aunt, Uncle, Cousins - Does not add any points in the application.
Thanks for your inputs!
Do you think it might help to put my spouse as first applicant the next time we apply (her salary being higher). Downside there would be she's been in SG 2 years lesser than me ?

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Re: PR approval probability 2020

Post by kogepan » Thu, 11 Jun 2020 4:59 pm

Hi!

Wanted to ask my chances for approval, here are my details:

Applicant
Age:31
Gender:Male
Status: Married 5 years
Nationality: Malaysian
Ethnicity: Chinese
Religion: Christian
Education: Form3 (lower secondary equivalent)
Job: NA
No of Years in SG: 6
Pass:LTVP+

Sponsor (Wife)
Age:43
Nationality: Singaporean
Ethnicity: Chinese
Religion: Christian
Education: Bachelor’s degree
Job: Bank officer
Basic: 100K

We have 3 kids (5,3,1) Girl and 2 boys

I previously applied in 2017 when wife was pregnant with #2.

Thanks!

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Re: PR approval probability 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 11 Jun 2020 5:46 pm

kogepan wrote:
Thu, 11 Jun 2020 4:59 pm
Hi!

Wanted to ask my chances for approval, here are my details:

Applicant
Age:31
Gender:Male
Status: Married 5 years
Nationality: Malaysian
Ethnicity: Chinese
Religion: Christian
Education: Form3 (lower secondary equivalent)
Job: NA
No of Years in SG: 6
Pass:LTVP+

Sponsor (Wife)
Age:43
Nationality: Singaporean
Ethnicity: Chinese
Religion: Christian
Education: Bachelor’s degree
Job: Bank officer
Basic: 100K

We have 3 kids (5,3,1) Girl and 2 boys

I previously applied in 2017 when wife was pregnant with #2.

Thanks!
Try again and you may get it. Are you not working? If you are working and have a good track record for income, it may make things easier

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Re: PR approval probability 2020

Post by kogepan » Thu, 11 Jun 2020 7:01 pm

Hard to find job with my education level. I just got the LTVP+ last year. Previously companies reluctant to apply for LOC quoting no headcount for foreigners

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Post by jamie9vardy » Thu, 11 Jun 2020 7:19 pm

kogepan wrote:Hard to find job with my education level. I just got the LTVP+ last year. Previously companies reluctant to apply for LOC quoting no headcount for foreigners
If that’s the case, since you’re currently unemployed, have you thought about taking courses or certification to enhance your employability and PR chances?

That’s what we always tell those who asked about how to improve their chances of success in appeals or reapplication. And you have more room for improvements than many of the other applicants. If you could achieve that, you actually stand a chance as you have the family ties box checked.

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Re: PR approval probability 2020

Post by greencarbuncle » Fri, 12 Jun 2020 9:34 am

Hello pls comment on my chances of getting PR approved :) PR applied last Sep 2019

Age: 21
Sex: F
Ethnicity: Chinese
Nationality: Indonesian
Education: 2nd upper honors BEng degree from NTU 2019
Marital status: single
Currently holding EP in one of engineering MNCs
Salary: basic 45k, gross 70k per annum
Have been working for 1.5 years

Thanks

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Re: PR approval probability 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Fri, 12 Jun 2020 10:54 am

greencarbuncle wrote:
Fri, 12 Jun 2020 9:34 am
Hello pls comment on my chances of getting PR approved :) PR applied last Sep 2019

Age: 21
Sex: F
Ethnicity: Chinese
Nationality: Indonesian
Education: 2nd upper honors BEng degree from NTU 2019
Marital status: single
Currently holding EP in one of engineering MNCs
Salary: basic 45k, gross 70k per annum
Have been working for 1.5 years

Thanks
May be too early to apply. If rejected, apply again after 2 years

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Re: PR approval probability 2020

Post by Blur_4 » Sat, 13 Jun 2020 5:51 am

I applied for PR in May 2019 and just got the rejection letter.3rd time rejected.
Background:
Working as a Dr in a govt organisation.
Workplace same since 2012. Prior to that also govt organisation but different place.
Year of stay in sg: 10yrs
Qualification: Masters from NUS
Family background: Husband and 2 kids under DP. Son 7yrs, Daughter 2 months old.
Husband staying home to look after kids while i work full time.
Race: others
Salary 200k per annum including bonuses.Monthly salary more than 10k
Not sure why rejected while my friend same country with similar background got approved 3years ago.
I am thinking to appeal this time.
What do you think are my chance of an appeal?

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Post by jamie9vardy » Sat, 13 Jun 2020 7:40 am

Blur_4 wrote:I applied for PR in May 2019 and just got the rejection letter.3rd time rejected.
Background:
Working as a Dr in a govt organisation.
Workplace same since 2012. Prior to that also govt organisation but different place.
Year of stay in sg: 10yrs
Qualification: Masters from NUS
Family background: Husband and 2 kids under DP. Son 7yrs, Daughter 2 months old.
Husband staying home to look after kids while i work full time.
Race: others
Salary 200k per annum including bonuses.Monthly salary more than 10k
Not sure why rejected while my friend same country with similar background got approved 3years ago.
I am thinking to appeal this time.
What do you think are my chance of an appeal?
Are you a clone of your friend or vice versa?

What’s your nationality and race exactly? If you are intentionally withholding this information, which could be one of the key determining factors, how are we to advise you and why should we to start with?

Did you include husband and kids in the previous 2 applications? I got a feeling part of the reasons for rejection could be your stay at home husband, which is still not that well perceived or widely accepted in Asian culture.

What circumstances have changed significantly that you think will make your profile much better than a year ago? Other than longer length of stay and one more tax assessment. Or else, it’s just going to be another futile exercise, bearing in mind that you’ve been rejected 3x.

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Re: PR approval probability 2020

Post by novaandbong » Sat, 04 Jul 2020 2:33 am

Hi all, I would hope to hear about my chance

Myself (main applicant) - first time applicant

Country of Origin: VN
Ethnicity: VN
Education: NUS High School (4 years), NTU (4 years)
Age: late 20s
Married: Yes 3 years
Kids: No
Work Yrs in SG: Total 5 yrs - 4 times paying tax
Work: tech - big foreign MNC
Pay: 115k base, over 200k gross
Pass: Student Pass then EP
Time in Singapore: 14 years

My husband: - second time applicant. Tried a couple of years back but was rejected, likely due to low pay
Country of Origin: VN
Ethnicity: VN
Education: ACS(I) (4 years), NTU (4 years)
Age: late 20s
Work Yrs in SG: Total 5 yrs - 4 times paying tax
Work: Insurance underwriter - big foreign MNC
Pay: 90k base, 110k gross
Pass: Student Pass then EP
Time in Singapore: 13 years

Thank you!

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Re: PR approval probability 2020

Post by jamie9vardy » Sat, 04 Jul 2020 8:41 am

novaandbong wrote:Hi all, I would hope to hear about my chance

Myself (main applicant) - first time applicant

Country of Origin: VN
Ethnicity: VN
Education: NUS High School (4 years), NTU (4 years)
Age: late 20s
Married: Yes 3 years
Kids: No
Work Yrs in SG: Total 5 yrs - 4 times paying tax
Work: tech - big foreign MNC
Pay: 115k base, over 200k gross
Pass: Student Pass then EP
Time in Singapore: 14 years

My husband: - second time applicant. Tried a couple of years back but was rejected, likely due to low pay
Country of Origin: VN
Ethnicity: VN
Education: ACS(I) (4 years), NTU (4 years)
Age: late 20s
Work Yrs in SG: Total 5 yrs - 4 times paying tax
Work: Insurance underwriter - big foreign MNC
Pay: 90k base, 110k gross
Pass: Student Pass then EP
Time in Singapore: 13 years

Thank you!
Very good profile - education (more so in local school then uni), married couple, optimal age, length of stay in SG and above average income. If this application came from a Malaysian couple, I think it could probably be approved within 6 months despite the pandemic period we are in.

But, now comes the big but, your nationality and ethnicity are not in your favour, and it’s been the case for a while now. If you are Vietnamese Chinese, your chances may go up a bit. See if SMS replies to this, he’ll be able to provide some insights. That said, you can still go ahead and apply, and see all the positives outweigh the nationality/ethnicity point. And if you do, be prepared for a long ride with ICA.

Good luck, you may need it!

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